Another Trans Girl Guiding Sob Story in The Guardian

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/apr/06/families-girlguiding-ban-trans-girls?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Agree with everything on this thread. Does anyone know what the situation is with male helpers at Guides these days? When my DDs went there was a male helper (a dad of a couple of the girls who went).
I found it odd when I discovered this, but by all accounts he had volunteered because none of the mums would and it was either that or the pack ceased to be. And also he was really great with them.
Just wondered if male helpers are still allowed.

To my knowledge men always have and probably always will be allowed as helpers, just not female roles like leaders. Don't know if they have to be a members dad or somehow related to a female member or if any man with an interest can sign up.

Slightly off topic, but isn’t an ‘exodus’ always a mass event?

I feel very sorry for the 13 year old sister who will probably be guilted into leaving in 'solidarity', whether she wants to or not.
Her elder sister, meanwhile, is torn about what to do. “It’s a very tricky position for her to be in,” said Angela. “Girlguiding has taught her values of kindness and compassion, and now she’s being told those values have limits and that limit is your younger sister. It’s very difficult.”
As pps have said, it wouldn't be difficult, or even happening, if the parents hadn't lied to their son.

Male helpers have always been a thing - when DD was in brownies DH went along a couple of times on activities when they asked for parent volunteers (he is an experienced hiker so way more use to them than I would have been!), also remember when I was in guides my Dad and some other Dads/leader’s husband staying to help set up camp. They all went home afterwards though and the actual leaders were all women. The situation with this kind of help hasn’t changed it’s just roles like leader that are specifically women only are now actually women only again.

“We have had no issues in nearly a decade of being trans inclusive. We also have cisgender men as unit helpers and activity advisers, and there’s never been any objection to any of these men being involved in Girlguiding events.”

No issues, eh? apart from a male primary school teacher imprisoned for six years for grooming young girls. He was a Girlguiding volunteer…

and no issues apart from at least one set of parents taking GG to court for not safeguarding their DDs at guides…

What changes did the Observer have to make?

Those poor children. One for being encouraged in a lie which could lead to unnecessary hormones and surgery and the other for not being the special child and likely having to sacrifice a lot for her brother. Just very sad all round.

Well it isn't at all hard for the mother to give the youngest child a reason is it? Surely they just say that girl guides is for females and being allowed to join was a mistake.

So everyday is a school day - for me anyway! 😀

I love this, because if you look on the transgenderuk sub Reddit, they're calling this article massively transphobic.

When I read it I saw it as being firmly on their side, but it's nuts how our biases make us read the same article so differently.

It originally referred to a “six year old trans girl” and said the child attempted to cut off “her penis” with scissors.

The parents have either been scared into going along with it because they’re told that “trans kids” are at a high risk of suicide - there’s no evidence for this but they’re told “Do you want a trans child or a dead non-trans child?” by those who are gender ideologists.

Or/and they’re gender ideologists themselves and/or they enjoy the special status that comes with having a “trans child” and all the attention it brings, not to mention the adulation from others. I knew of someone with a “trans kid” who was feted like some sort of god by those around her, like she was a cool way for them to prove their progressive allyship.

Angela is also quoted in this Metro piece:

https://metro.co.uk/2026/03/31/trans-girl-guide-10-cant-understand-kicked-beloved-group-27784205/

Suggests to me that Angela is an activist who wants to push this ideology in the mainstream media.

Ah, the Guardiman

I genuinely despair at all these protest groups. It seems really clear to me that they don't understand the issue - the law, and girl guidings status as a single sex charitable organisation.

There is absolutely no reason that a boy needs to join GirlGuiding. None whatsoever given that the scouts exists and takes children of both sexes. The only reason for a trans girl to want to join Girlguides is validation- ‘look at me, I’m a girl’. The whole essence of Girlguides is that it is a safe space for girls and my goodness, girls still desperately need such spaces.

These parents have caused the issue here and the ‘what to tell them’ argument is nonsense. If they aren’t old enough to understand that they are a boy then they aren’t old enough to decide they don’t want to be one.

From the Metro article it sounds like Angela’s child was stealth although certain things were put in place by the leaders where ‘privacy’ became an issue. It reads like they knew but the girls didn’t. So realistically it was not about accepting the child because they were trans at all, it was keeping the fact they were a boy hidden.

Yes.

I think this is key.

How many times will we see a narrative of a boy being accepted as a girl when the reality is that the girls have no idea the boy is not a girl? They are very different issues.

For a supposedly left wing paper they are really good at keeping females in their place.

I came to realise after over 20 years of voting left wing that many lefties absolutely love keeping females in their place, they just hide it, albeit not as well as they used to.

I've said it before round these parts, but large swathes of the Left don't give a tuppenney fuck about women unless they're making the tea.

Women's rights are what they might consider getting round to when they've resolved the class war.

Absolutely, 'after the revolution sister' 😒

They don’t give a fuck about class war either. Multiple reasons why I left the Labour Party, I doubt there’s many socialists or real left wingers there anymore

It sickens me that a small child of six is told he is a girl, or at least encouraged to believe that, he has only been in the world for six years, how could he possibly have come to that conclusion by himself.

it is commonly understood that children who later realise they are homosexual, resist gender conformity.

this gender ideology forces people in to the same old boxes we have always had to endure.

it makes me angry.