Here we come ...

[HelenaWaiting]

Hey, hey we're the misogynists...

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/mar/27/olympics-transgender-women-athlete-ban-human-rights-response-ntwnfb

That's hilarious.

2032. When is a woman not a woman if you can't explain sex and gender are not the same thing.

They've just realised they are going to look like utter dicks.

It's irrelevant anyway, because training programmes for 2032 will be being set by the 2028 policy.

That means no one is going to fund a trans / dad athlete for the Olympic Programme now anyway. Including Australia. The same Australians who can't tell the difference between sex and gender... Except they can.

Ahhh … but don’t underestimate the power of the activist groups and their need to disrupt.

I cannot think that they will not challenge this.

When they do though, the more the public will start to understand the issue and the pressure will grow to force the change through. But ultimately, an activist group will find this a very attractive opportunity.

She is a professor of law at Brunel University.

Thankfully Sharon Davies followed & the idiotic interviewer who could barely get a word in about the poor sad men.

Either they win, or they lose and then the campaign pivots to the oppression narrative that trans lives are the hardest of all lives to lead because they're oppressed by everybody.

Guilt-tripping many of the #bekinders in various positions in the Establishment is a highly potent force.

Here's her profile at the UN: https://www.ohchr.org/en/alexandra-xanthaki

They are working on an assumption that there are no differences between men and women, girls and boys. On the idea that we are all 'equal' - which effectively means the same as each other in all respects. That to suggest there are differences is to play into stereotypes around sex. They think all differnces are culturally constructed......and that the body is just a 'meat suit' without any inherent or furrher implications.

Or perhaps they are just not thinking critically at all...they are just repeating popular memes that have social currency.

It's clearly nonsense. But in any case, what definition of sex are you going to have if not a binary one? If you're going to have two categories, one called "male" and one called "female", then that is by definition binary. If you genuinely believe that sex exists on a spectrum, or that there is some weird group in the middle who are neither properly male nor properly female, then you'd have to invent separate categories for them to compete in, not dump them all in the female category.

The whole thing is completely stupid. But we know that of course. It's incredible that the intellectual giants who write for the Guardian apparently don't know it.

How about anyone with a Y chromosome is banned from women’s elite sports. Is that simpler and easier to understand? Yes there are some males with a DSD who don’t have the same attributes as other males. Unfortunately that means that, as a result of their genetic code, they will never be able to be elite athletes. That also applies to the vast, vast majority of the population - a point which seems rather lost as some people whine about inclusion. The Olympics isn’t an inclusive event.

Sharron Davies said that women’s sport currently receives 5% of total sports funding - but female athletes are still expected to share that with some men who aren’t good enough to compete in the men’s events?

Will nobody think of the poor Olympic boxers who are called 'Heavyweights' just because they are 80kg+, and are unfairly and disgracefully excluded from the 70kg+ category, even though they have always identified as Welterweights?

Requiring them to step on a weighing scales to prove they are Welterweights not Heavyweights is humiliating and body-shaming, they should be allowed fight in whatever weight category they feel best expresses their true selves...

The implosion will be glorious popcorn fodder.

OMFG that is unreal. Just when I thought I was going to start breaking things, Sharon Davis comes in, clearly enormously frustrated but sane and made me feel better. The questions SD was asked were so bloody predictable as well, delighted she dealt with them so effectively. Why was she asked if she felt sorry for trans athletes and the TRA from the UN was not asked if she felt sorry for the female athletes who do not want to compete with men!!!
Im going to have to step away from the internet for a while to calm down now.

I happened to watch what used to be the Paper review or some such name on Sky tv. Its now called the Wrap.

In fact the night before when it was already known that the Olympics were going to return to women only and whoever the commentators were just said well of course and they moved on the the next item

Last night they had Shami Chakrabarti, formally Liberty and now a Baroness.

She just went on and on about how this was discrageful discrimination against a fragile minority. ie meaning women dont have rights but should give them up for this tiny minority.

Then she launched into a whole thing about how the testing wasn't fair because not everyone was one sex or the other. How was this fair on them. they wouldn't able to compete at all.

I only going into the detail because of course in terms of the public she is seen as being part of campaigning for human rights, and is now in the House of Lords where she is "respected" for her time at Liberty.

The fact that she was talking total rubbish was not challenged.

I dont know if this is the right link but it illustrates just how the rainbow fantasy of what biological sex is, is still being promoted by well known people.
https://news.sky.com/video/the-wrap-fridays-papers-13524895

I bet they aren’t really independent. Perhaps a few journalists can test whether that claim is true, or is just identifying as being true.

Being faster than another person is a binary judgement based on things like "measurable speed" rather than "how fast someone would dearly like to go".

It's exclusionary and literally judges people who are slower merely due to how their body moves.

We should absolutely move away from such binary measures and to a model that rewards anyone who feels fast. And that can mean whatever you want it to mean! That's how inclusivity works.

I too thought that Brunel professor was a complete and utter loon. Yet look at her profile and it looks so worthwhile - working with refugees (do they just identify out of their problems?). Thank heavens Sharon Davis came along before I morphed into Nigel Farage and defunded everything.

As Naomi Cunningham said in a recent article, this stuff is only complex if youre trying to think up reasons as to how it's all wrong. We on our side find it all very simple.

This! For me, an unexpected effect of peaking (over a previous Olympics, as it happened) was that I could stop trying to tie myself in knots trying to reconcile this growing ideology which had taken hold in my newspaper (I'm an ex Guardian subscriber), my workplace and my social circle with the biology and sociology that had been the basis of my education and my career and just file the whole fucking lot under "bullshit" and go back to basics. This stuff is fascinating around the edges, but fundamentally it's not at all complex.

Why bother having sex categories in sport at all? This has nothing to do with gender or stereotypes, if you are going to have women’s and men’s categories, the line needs to be drawn, and the decider is biological sex.

Dear God I have just listened to this. How Sharon didn’t get even more shouty I will never know! And what the fuck was that UN woman wanging on about re: this means women can no longer decide what makes them a woman because the IOC has determined it is just biology.

Right so apart from every cell in my body making me a woman, the other things are what, my hair, clothes, hobbies?? So a bunch of culture stereotypes and norms that everyone says are terrible and we should dismantle. So it can’t be that then, surely that determines what a woman is?

So what does make me a woman I wonder 🧐

I would love to hear Alexandra Xanthaki describe an olympic sport that is played not with the outrageously discriminatory and excluding body, but with all those really important things that make a woman - like feelings, identity, or choice
sarcasm alert

Yep the men and misogynists will try to create backlash.

Women are getting somewhere, it’s important.

She sounds like a complete idiot. Also a liar, saying women don't want this (apparently because TWAW and they don't want it).

Sharron Davies is on afterwards. Very nice clear explanation of what female athletes want and why.

Then she launched into a whole thing about how the testing wasn't fair because not everyone was one sex or the other. How was this fair on them. they wouldn't able to compete at all.

She's right, but draws the wrong conclusions. Individuals with 5-ard and pais will be excluded from elite gender-affected sport because they won't be good enough to compete in the male/open class but can't safely or fairly be included in the female class. Some problems don't have solutions.

There's no issue for trans people though. They can compete in their own sex class. If they count themselves out by taking drugs that affect their performance that's their lookout.

Its a human rights violation against men to let women have equality and anything for themselves!

Fgs.

Individuals with 5-ard and pais will be excluded from elite gender-affected sport because they won't be good enough to compete in the male/open class but can't safely or fairly be included in the female class.

I dont understand. Are you saying that these conditions mean that the SRY gene test (I think it is called) would be inconclusive and not be able to say someone was biologically male or female?