'Callous' teenager jailed for killing mother with a hammer because of 'hatred of women'

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I dont even want to quote the attack or name him.

But just to say RIP Angela Shellis

You desreved much better than this, and a life you could lead without fear.

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https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2026-03-25/teenager-jailed-for-killing-mother-with-a-hammer-because-of-hatred-of-women

Absolutely shocking- poor Angela; RIP.
All she did was love him and try to help him
Horrific

I read about it today - it is devastating.

She never gave up on him.

Interesting though, never once was the a mention of the absent father.

Had the mother been absent?

They get a complete pass - these men who walk away from their responsibility and leave everything to the woman.

It is horrific. Evidently a major dangerous influence on this son was the internet.

He used the online forum “Discord” for several hours a day and laid out his plans to fellow users.

Oh god. Wish I hadn't read that.
Disturbing number of similar cases recently.

I can't bring myself to read it, absolutely horrific. RIP.

Just awful - so many parents, and particularly lone mothers, are just expected to cope with violent males in their house because they are their children. One of the hidden statistics is that, until 2022 at least, child-to-parent violence was included in domestic violence stats for ONS and was one of the reasons the male victim rate was elevated.

Services only step in when things have already hit crisis point, and even then will sign off someone who is clearly unstable because they choose not to engage. This is a boy who was already known to courts - how many "lessons will be learned" are we going to hear this time?

I see so many posts on MN where mums appear to be scared of their sons.

I think these is also the issue that many, not just because of lack of NHS resources, children and young teenagers with various conditions are said to be better to be allowed to continue to live at home.

But more often that not that means the mother becomes not just the carer as a mother but also some sort of substitute for professional care.

I dont know the balance, but also its is unacceptable that these women who have had this additional "duty" put on them, are then brutally murdered.

... In a victim impact statement, Angela’s eldest son Ethan said his mum was “the most important person in my life. We talked every day.”

He said “all my mum ever did was love Tristan. He’s the one who took her from us all.” ...

I felt there was a lot missing from the reporting. Where was the father? Why was nothing doing when the Mum flagged serious concerns about her sons mental health ? A family let down totally by various services yet again. And a loving mother who did her best but in the end her son made a terrible and evil decision. It’s heartbreaking.
Also the dangers of the online world - especially Discord, and the lack of any real mental health support in the Uk currently. Sadly I think there will be more cases like this. Also what did this murderer think was going to happen? All signs clearly pointed to him and other than a hatred (without a clear basis as she seems to have really tried to help him) of his mother there seems to be no actual motive. A horrible and senseless crime.

According to AI not from any online news outlet:

• Reports indicate that Angela Shellis had recently moved back to North Wales from the Luton area after separating from her husband (Tristan's father). The reporting highlights that Angela was supporting her son through mental health challenges, often alone, and that his behavior deteriorated after moving to Prestatyn in 2021.
• The court proceedings and media reports centered on Roberts' guilty plea and his admission of premeditation, including his expressed "hatred of women" as a motive.

Reports noted that Tristan felt "abandoned, betrayed, and bullied" and blamed his mother, rather than focusing on the father’s role in public reports.

So it is even the woman's fault that he had a hatred of women?

This springs to mind:

Denzel Washington: "If the father is not in the home, the boy will find a father in the streets. I saw it in my generation and every generation before me and every one since. If the streets raise you, then the judge becomes your mother and prison becomes your home.”

I think that we need to have the chat about having a dad.

Many of us do not want to address that - but we need to.

Too many children are raised without one.

More children in the UK have an iPhone than a father living in the home.

This poor woman - left to deal with all of that on her own.

And she knew what was coming. Her diary entries show that she could sense it.

I could weep for her.

I know quite a few who are quite bitter about how their mum raised them.

Many did not have a dad at not home.

He gets absolved with a "selfish dick, he left us" but "mum, well she was a 'mare."

It is very interesting from a psychological point of view but jaw dropping too.

And so sad for the mothers who had to be mother, father and everything in between.

I think a few of you are reading a lot into the father’s ‘absence’ here. Ms Shellis had moved away from the area they’d been living together as a family - quite a long way away.

We don’t know why the relationship broke down and we don’t know yet if the father was trying to stay in contact. He could have been an utter shit who didn’t give a toss about his two lads, or he could have been trying to stay involved - it’s way too easy to read too much into the very little detail that the reports so far give.

I'm wondering how many children are diagnosed as autistic when they are actually sociopaths.

More children in the UK have an iPhone than a father living in the home.

Oh man. This story was the headline on the lunchtime news, but I (looked for it but) didn't see it on the evening news. And I thought - this is stuff I see on Mumsnet, there was a woman posting just last year saying how frightened she was of her teenage son, out late, skipping school, involved with drugs. Losing his temper with her constantly.

Fair enough actually @PaterPower

RIP, Angela. A heartbreaking and infuriating story.

Yes. Sometimes posters who've been on asking for help go quiet, and you wonder.

Yes and they're right to be scared. And then some absolute piece of work pops up on the thread and suggests they ground the kid or confiscate his phone!

I don't see the trans link? Was expecting there to be something in the article.

Why? This isn't a single issue forum.

This is a feminist forum.

ie it is about women being disavantaged, discriminated against, being victims of violence, just because they are biological females.

ie the forum provides a place where the sex class of women can discuss, criticise, ridicule or express fear of the dominant sex class of men.

I think that is what you think is being said.

Irrespective of which ie either the father or the mother was at fault that their relationship broke down, it is just as likely that the son resented being made to move from an area where he had friends, etc. Felt safe and so on.

His behaviour deteriorated following the separation, and his removal from a situation he was familiar with.

And all too often when a son is left (if not abandoned) by his father to just have his mother in his life, more often than not the mother is blamed for not staying with the father.

It maybe that he was not only more isolated, lost friends, but could aslo be living with less financial resources. Or no longer has the familiar and preferred urban area to somewhere more rural.

So whether the father was a complete shit, and or violent or had found another partner, not just sons, but perhaps more so, resent being made to pay the price and all too often becomes negative towards women.

It is just as likely that it was this lived experience rather than the virtual world that caused his attitudes. Although of course Discord or any number of incel spaces would have been happy to confirm his notion that he was the victim in being made to live with his mother.

Obviously I cant claim this is the case here, but certainly there are any number of family breakdowns where the children are assumed to then be the responsibility of the mother. And too often the absent father excused and the mother blamed for the lack of involvement of the father.

Yes. Mums regularly post on here about being abused by their late teen, early 20s son. They say they want to kick their sons out. The terrifying thing is many posters reply with versions of “I could never see my child on the streets.”. “Why is he like that? You raised him”. “Where is he meant to go?” “You’ll make him feel abandoned and worse”. Nothing these mothers can do to help their sons is ever enough for these posters. Mothers are meant to absorb abuse apparently and boundaries are cruel.

There is a level of victim blaming towards mothers with violent sons that would never be tolerated if the male was a partner.

How is this not a hate crime?

this is just awful