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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The new WI equality, diversity and inclusion policy - it’s worse and includes the thought police

321 replies

Marmaladelover · 27/02/2026 11:05

This is the new EDI policy all WIs have to sign and agree .

The last one was bad enough , the new one discriminates against anyone who doesn’t think Transwomen are women. Please note the sentence
We expect all those who engage in the WI movement to uphold the same values.

I am furious! So what to do about it ?

Main bits I disagree with copied below

Our inclusion of transgender women in activities outside of membership is based on our belief that being a woman is about biology and lived experience

One of the objectives

• Highlight and celebrate the diverse membership of the WI, and ensure that our wider movement offers support and fellowship to all women, including transgender women and others.

Aside from WI membership, we offer other ways to engage with the WI movement, locally, regionally and nationally, including being a WI Supporter and belonging to one
of our Sisterhood groups. We expect all those who engage in the WI movement to uphold the same values.

11. Transgender inclusion
The WI is an inclusive, supportive, and progressive organisation that offers different ways to engage in our movement for members and non-members. The WI provides
educational opportunities and the platform to campaign on important issues, whilst celebrating the WI’s long history of trans inclusion, and embracing the sisterhood and
solidarity of our movement
.
Transgender women are welcomed to a range of local and national activities that are open to non-members, as well as our national Supporter scheme. Based on the WI’s
history of trans inclusion, we believe that including transgender women in these activities enriches our organisation to ensure we are a place for both biological women and transgender women to celebrate who they are and influence positive change in their communities.

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 02/03/2026 10:13

Don't let some supercilious twonks push you out of an organisation that was set up by and for women!

Fight for it!

Thistleton · 02/03/2026 10:34

ArabellaScott · 02/03/2026 07:17

If you are in the WI and have 'gender critical views', now is the time to speak up about it. Write to head office and let them know how you feel. Plenty of trans rights activists are very loud - women who dont want to bow to the orthodoxy must also speak up. They only win by bullying. Dont let them.

I think this is my next step - contact HQ and ask them to clarify whether I am welcome (holding my legally protected sex-realist views).

I'm very conflicted about signing a document which appears to endorse something I utterly reject but the reality is that I will be the one who loses out if I leave. I live in a bit of a rural backwater, my WI is lovely but not 'progressive' and has very little to do with the larger machine. I'm going to see what they say when I ask whether they're really expecting members to affirm that TWAW, given that the policy seems to be funnelling people in that direction.

Greyskybluesky · 02/03/2026 10:34

MarionHaste · 02/03/2026 10:06

Like others, I am struggling with whether to renew my membership. DH and DD think it would be horribly hypocritical to do so, but I'm sure if I 'flounce' I will be counted as one who disagreed with the new eligibility criteria. When I did contact NFWI last year with my views this must have been what happened, as the reply I received was along the lines of 'we are all disappointed with the ruling'.

I'm sure if I 'flounce' I will be counted as one who disagreed with the new eligibility criteria.

Yes, I am concerned about this too. If the membership numbers are down after April, those in charge will automatically assume it's because people left in support of TW. They won't consider anything else.
They won't think about all the other reasons women might have left, many not to do with any aspect of this issue at all (caring responsibilities, etc)

I do agree with those urging us to stay, fight and object! ✊
I'm not wholly opposed to doing that...it is just difficult to accept that half of our money will be going to the national committee who does not prioritise women in a women's organisation.

But I am wondering if I should be in the tent pissing out, yes.

NotAtMyAge · 02/03/2026 10:42

Thistleton · 01/03/2026 21:23

I’ve received my email about this today. I honestly don’t know what to do. I love my little WI, and I don’t want to leave. But it feels as though I’m being compelled to affirm something I don’t believe.

A couple of hours ago I was all for refusing to sign but now I’m feeling as though I would be walking away from something I really enjoy and should I let them bully me into that when the substantive issue is resolved since the SC ruling.

Feeling really torn.

I really sympathise. If I were a member I'd feel exactly the same. My instinct would be to sign, as it's the whole policy you'd be affirming of which the trans bit is just a small part, and then concentrate on contributing to your lovely little WI. As you say, we have the law on our side and all this affirmative guff is the leadership having a tantrum because they've been thwarted.

ArabellaScott · 02/03/2026 10:44

If men can lie about being women then women can lie about believing them.

MyPearlViper · 03/03/2026 16:15

Meanwhile the brains of Reddit are discussing whether one of their 'ally' mums should have joined the WI or not....

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/EYQbPEUMQF

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/03/2026 16:25

Calling her a “scab”, I see. Stay classy lads.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 03/03/2026 16:47

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/03/2026 16:25

Calling her a “scab”, I see. Stay classy lads.

So retro, I wonder if the person posting that even knows where it comes from. 😂

Talkinpeace · 03/03/2026 16:52

ArabellaScott · 02/03/2026 10:44

If men can lie about being women then women can lie about believing them.

THIS.

Every WI branch member I have met eyerolls when you mention national policies.

FranticFrankie · 03/03/2026 21:17

Anti trans?!?!
It's the bloody WOMENS institute

Apollo441 · 03/03/2026 23:03

Why leave? Tell them to stuff their pledge up their arse and refuse to sign it. I'd like to see how they fare in court.

vv747 · 04/03/2026 02:42

Womanofcustard · 01/03/2026 10:23

I can’t get my head around this.
How many ‘transwomen’ are there?
Why are these men being encouraged in their ‘fantasies’ (to use a polite term).

Actually I did the maths based on the last census

180 000 WI members

93% 45years +
60% retired

Therefore
60% 65years +
33% 45-65
7% 18-45

Trans ID per latest census:

16-24: 1 %
25-34: 0.77%
35-44: 0.64%
45-54: 0.47%
55-64: 0.33%
65-74: 0.25%
Above 75: 0.22%

Hence potential number of trans women in WI is 580

LesbianNana · 04/03/2026 03:37

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 27/02/2026 15:29

I'm standing on ten years of personal experience of fighting for women's rights against the hostile actions and colonisation by men with trans identities, involving harms to women from exclusion to public services and workplaces, police and court action for naming their needs, illness support groups and lesbian groups being closed or forced under ground to escape these men, and a number of women and girls who have suffered assault and rape. Oh and exposure to a social media deluge of death and rape threats, sexually violent ideology and the kind of stuff most people only encounter when working on a prison psychiatry team. We can all play the emotive anecdotes game.

All of the above came from nice women saying nicely to be nice. To look the other way, to not question when language and intent was twisted so that men could be women too, to give ground, to be mummy, to nurture and be the bigger person, and to suck it up and be that resource in a man's life. His agenda might just to use you as a resource to do womanly things next to - whether the benefit to him is emotional or sexual, or emotional AND sexual is not something you'll get to know - but your body is a prop in his performance and your needs and you as an equal person will not come in to it.

How can anyone not see the issue with this?

Men do not need the women's institute.

Women have needs too, that mean they like to have a space where it's JUST about women, and JUST for women, and they get a little bit of life for an hour or two where it's not all revolving around the louder, more demanding and much more important men.

Women are enough. They are not so boring or pointless that men need to be involved before the womanly things are worth it. What message is this pumping out to women and girls? The most important kind of woman is - guess what! The ones with a penis!

So the wangling of 'AND lived experiences' is not harmless, I am not going to 'open my mind' to that in the same way I'm not going to 'open my mind' to ooh is mugging always wrong. It's about making women let men into womanhood and then kneeling down and opening their mouths. It is pointless to deny that this has not been the experience of the past ten years when basically defacto self ID for men was in place.

Men were given this access. Against the law, they just took it while lying to everyone about the law, but they had it. They abused it. They broke it. They have destroyed a large number of women's resources, facilities and groups, they don't care about this or the women left behind them with nothing, having lost something they once relied on. Because if it wasn't all about this group of men then it was worthless to these people.

I see the language and I know exactly what it means. You cannot sugar it or glitter it to the point of hiding the very grim reality and values beneath it.

A good man - however he identifies - does not work to colonise and destroy women's resources as WI and GG have patently now been destroyed. They will end up just branches of trans activism, nothing else.

What do you think we should do and provide for the women who will walk out of a womens group when your son walks in? Have you any idea of the reasons why those women might be so affected?

Do you think those women's mothers would agree that your son is a far more valuable and important kind of human being and it's just and right that their daughters accept that their access to public life relies on being a resource and support animal for him? And that his feelings and issues - in a women's group - will always outweigh those of women?

Edited
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Wow. I mostly just lurk, but I had to acknowledge your fantastic post. I was going to single out the first paragraph, but the whole thing is excellent. You can really feel the years of built-up frustration behind it.

WittyLimeBiscuit · 04/03/2026 05:44

HeadyLamarr · 27/02/2026 11:41

The WI membership year runs April to April, so this document comes into effect from the new and renewing memberships in April and is not in force for the remainder of the current membership year.

So does that mean we have until now and April to stop this madness?

Datun · 04/03/2026 08:40

Can I ask what happens if you don't sign it?

ArabellaScott · 04/03/2026 08:46

LesbianNana · 04/03/2026 03:37

Wow. I mostly just lurk, but I had to acknowledge your fantastic post. I was going to single out the first paragraph, but the whole thing is excellent. You can really feel the years of built-up frustration behind it.

It is a fantastic post and I"d missed it, thanks for sharing

ArabellaScott · 04/03/2026 08:46

Datun · 04/03/2026 08:40

Can I ask what happens if you don't sign it?

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Greyskybluesky · 04/03/2026 09:11

WittyLimeBiscuit · 04/03/2026 05:44

So does that mean we have until now and April to stop this madness?

There isn't any madness to stop. It's stopped! The WI have taken legal advice, been told "no men" and are dragging themselves kicking and screaming towards complying with the law.

If you're a WI member, you have until April to decide if you want to remain a member because that's when the new membership year starts. Some women are flouncing because they don't like the new policy. Bye then!

Edited to add: Ah sorry, by "madness" did you mean specifically this policy? I don't think we can stop that.

Greyskybluesky · 04/03/2026 09:19

Datun · 04/03/2026 08:40

Can I ask what happens if you don't sign it?

I'm not sure we have to sign it ourselves? Maybe @Marmaladelover knows more about that?

I think it's more that if you pay up as a member, you're deemed to have accepted the policy.

My local committee has just announced they're all intending to stay despite being extremely unhappy with the new policy. Ooh, thanks ladies! Thanks for forcing yourselves to stay even though there are no menz there!
/sarcasm

UpAndDownAllTheTime · 04/03/2026 09:26

vv747 · 04/03/2026 02:42

Actually I did the maths based on the last census

180 000 WI members

93% 45years +
60% retired

Therefore
60% 65years +
33% 45-65
7% 18-45

Trans ID per latest census:

16-24: 1 %
25-34: 0.77%
35-44: 0.64%
45-54: 0.47%
55-64: 0.33%
65-74: 0.25%
Above 75: 0.22%

Hence potential number of trans women in WI is 580

Trans ID per latest census:

16-24: 1 %
25-34: 0.77%
35-44: 0.64%
45-54: 0.47%
55-64: 0.33%
65-74: 0.25%
Above 75: 0.22%

Those figures are no longer trusted. They have been withdrawn.

Rightsraptor · 04/03/2026 09:31

'All women including transgender women and others'.

This appears in the WI statement in OP's first post.

Any idea what or who the 'others' could be in this context? I'm stumped.

teawamutu · 04/03/2026 09:34

Rightsraptor · 04/03/2026 09:31

'All women including transgender women and others'.

This appears in the WI statement in OP's first post.

Any idea what or who the 'others' could be in this context? I'm stumped.

The boring MK1 cunty kind, as opposed to the MK2 stunning and brave penisy kind.

MyAmpleSheep · 04/03/2026 09:36

teawamutu · 04/03/2026 09:34

The boring MK1 cunty kind, as opposed to the MK2 stunning and brave penisy kind.

Yes, must be the famous and obviously rare nontranswomen we read about.

tesseractor · 04/03/2026 09:45

Datun · 04/03/2026 08:40

Can I ask what happens if you don't sign it?

We don’t sign anything if rejoining - just pay our subs to our branch. But presumably we’re deemed to have accepted it by paying. Not that I’ve seen it circulated officially ( might have missed it somewhere).

my county federation newsletter this month included a line thanking all of us who had already responded to their questionnaire re the sisterhoods, saying all views are welcome to help them understand how they can support us, but then had a paragraph about how it was important in this time of change to look out for each other. My response to the questionnaire, which was possibly a little ranty on the subject of who exactly were women, also included a bit about how my reluctance to tell them who I was, was indicative of how debate had not been possible, and how voices had been shut down. I am watching to see how they respond and also share the feedback, as I doubt I’m the only person who said they didn’t want any funds or time going on sisterhoods.

Thistleton · 04/03/2026 09:58

The email from our group’s secretary says whether you’re a new member or a renewing member, you must print off the document and sign. The email from HQ says:

All members (both new and renewing members) are required to complete the form when they join or renew their membership from April 2026 onwards. This is just for this membership year because of the changes to the national policy, and in future years only new members will need to complete this form.