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The new WI equality, diversity and inclusion policy - it’s worse and includes the thought police

321 replies

Marmaladelover · 27/02/2026 11:05

This is the new EDI policy all WIs have to sign and agree .

The last one was bad enough , the new one discriminates against anyone who doesn’t think Transwomen are women. Please note the sentence
We expect all those who engage in the WI movement to uphold the same values.

I am furious! So what to do about it ?

Main bits I disagree with copied below

Our inclusion of transgender women in activities outside of membership is based on our belief that being a woman is about biology and lived experience

One of the objectives

• Highlight and celebrate the diverse membership of the WI, and ensure that our wider movement offers support and fellowship to all women, including transgender women and others.

Aside from WI membership, we offer other ways to engage with the WI movement, locally, regionally and nationally, including being a WI Supporter and belonging to one
of our Sisterhood groups. We expect all those who engage in the WI movement to uphold the same values.

11. Transgender inclusion
The WI is an inclusive, supportive, and progressive organisation that offers different ways to engage in our movement for members and non-members. The WI provides
educational opportunities and the platform to campaign on important issues, whilst celebrating the WI’s long history of trans inclusion, and embracing the sisterhood and
solidarity of our movement
.
Transgender women are welcomed to a range of local and national activities that are open to non-members, as well as our national Supporter scheme. Based on the WI’s
history of trans inclusion, we believe that including transgender women in these activities enriches our organisation to ensure we are a place for both biological women and transgender women to celebrate who they are and influence positive change in their communities.

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Easytoconfuse · 01/03/2026 15:46

Another2Cats · 01/03/2026 11:58

Unlike their previous EDI Policy, the latest one that I can see (April 2026 Version 3) appears to have been checked over by a lawyer.

Most of the policy deals with the whole range of EDI issues and is entirely uncontroversial.

Although I'm guessing that they must have written this bit about religion and belief with gritted teeth:

"We therefore welcome both women who belong to an organised religion or have religious beliefs, and women who do not. Religion and beliefs, such as gender critical beliefs, are protected characteristics." [emphasis added]

They're still trying to force trans-identifying men in as best they can though, but what the policy says now does appear to be entirely lawful.

They clearly state now (which they didn't before) that:

"...our membership is only open to women registered female at birth (biological women),"

and that trans-identifying women can also be members (again, they used to claim otherwise before):

"WI membership is open to transgender men. This is because they were registered female at birth."

They often use the term 'transwomen' but when talking about specific activities they are careful to say "transwomen and others" ie men of all sorts whether they identify as trans or not and also women who are non-members.

For example:

"...we offer different ways to engage with our movement so that we can offer support and fellowship to a wider group, including transgender women and others."

The Membership section makes it clear that trans-identifying men can only be non-members:

"WI membership is open to women registered female at birth (biological women).

Other activities offered by the WI nationally and locally are open to a wider group of members and non-members.

[...]

Aside from WI membership, we offer other ways to engage with the WI movement, locally, regionally and nationally, including being a WI Supporter and belonging to one of our Sisterhood groups. We expect all those who engage in the WI movement to uphold the same values."
.

They do try and push the trans-identifying men bit, such as saying under the section on gender reassignment that:

"Transgender women are welcomed to a range of local and national activities that are open to non-members, as well as our national Supporter scheme."

It doesn't mention there that are other men wouls also be welcomed to the same activities as well, but this was in the section on gender reassignment so they probably didn't feel the need to repeat that information here.

Overall, it seems like they are trying very hard to spin this as being trans-inclusive while carefully wording it to comply with the law.

https://www.thewi.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/719730/NFWI-Equality-Diversity-and-Inclusion-Policy-April-2026.pdf

Just another small point, they did say in their press release back in last December that these new sisterhood groups would be for everyone, not just women and trans-identifying men:

"In April 2026, we will be launching a national network of local WI Sisterhood groups, which will offer monthly opportunities for all people, including transgender women, to come together to socialise, learn from each other, and
share their experiences of living as women." [emphasis added]

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However, my big problem with the whole sisterhood thing is how does this tie in with the charitable objects of the WI? I'm not sure that it really does.

Sorry, this was just a few thoughts on this. I'm not sure if I answered your question or not?

Please can anyone explain to me how the WI can simultaneously respect gender critical beliefs and expect members to uphold their, oh dear, I can't be polite, so I'll say Cyber-WI as in you will be like us?

Or am I adding Alice in Wonderland where the Red Queen could believe 10 impossible things before breakfast to my literary streak?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 01/03/2026 15:48

EyesOpening · 01/03/2026 15:40

"In April 2026, we will be launching a national network of local WI Sisterhood groups, which will offer monthly opportunities for all people, including transgender women, to come together to socialise, learn from each other, and
share their experiences of living as women

By that, they’re basically saying men who know they’re men, aren’t welcome, but men who believe they’re women, are.

Although maybe they will finally be able to answer what "living as a woman" actually means, and why this "living as a woman" thing, a thing that according to the WI and others who include transwomen in their definition of "women" can be experienced by people of either sex, has any relevance whatsoever to the specific needs, experiences and reality of people of female body.

Marmaladelover · 01/03/2026 16:36

EyesOpening · 01/03/2026 15:40

"In April 2026, we will be launching a national network of local WI Sisterhood groups, which will offer monthly opportunities for all people, including transgender women, to come together to socialise, learn from each other, and
share their experiences of living as women

By that, they’re basically saying men who know they’re men, aren’t welcome, but men who believe they’re women, are.

Yes a club for doing womanning better.

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SabrinaThwaite · 01/03/2026 17:27

FlirtsWithRhinos · 01/03/2026 15:48

Although maybe they will finally be able to answer what "living as a woman" actually means, and why this "living as a woman" thing, a thing that according to the WI and others who include transwomen in their definition of "women" can be experienced by people of either sex, has any relevance whatsoever to the specific needs, experiences and reality of people of female body.

TBH, if these Sisterhood meetings are going to be all about how to do womanning properly, they are going to be very dull.

I don’t give a toss about the best skirts go spinny and nail varnish, I want to know how to make a hat out of kitchen implements (which my old village WI used to do).

EwwSprouts · 01/03/2026 17:41

Some members of the WI where I am a member have already flounced. 4 or 5. Others are awaiting the Sisterhood. They can't see that TWAW does not sit with having a women's refuge (for biological women only) as charity of the year. I can't decide whether to renew or not in April.

The leadership can get it right. Below is a current campaign of the type of interest that attracted me. I don't knit, bake etc. The WI put a lot of work into looking more modern and current. Men have no lived experience of ovarian cancer (another campaign) or this:

Biologically, women have unique oral health challenges, leading to women having poorer oral health in comparison to men over their lifetime. Women’s saliva tends to be more acidic than men’s, increasing the rate of dental decay in their mouths. Changing hormone levels during the menstrual cycle, pregnancy, and menopause can also raise the risk of problems in women’s mouths, teeth, or gums.
In a patriarchal system women are disproportionately responsible for the care load of their household, including being responsible for the cooking, cleaning, and childcare. Women are therefore often responsible for the health of both younger and older family relatives, including their oral health. With NHS dental appointments becoming harder to obtain, women are bearing financial, temporal, physical, and mental health burdens for not only themselves but also their loved ones. https://www.thewi.org.uk/campaigns/key-and-current-campaigns/dental-health-matters

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 01/03/2026 17:45

Easytoconfuse · 01/03/2026 15:42

I think it's because the best way to change a system is to infiltrate it. In my darker moments, I think it's happening all over the place as a part of 'transforming' this country into their vision of what it should be while trampling over anyone who doesn't agree with them.

They’ve certainly done a through job of infiltration. Who knew our institutions and organisations were so vulnerable to the takeover of reality denying ideologues?

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 01/03/2026 17:52

EyesOpening · 01/03/2026 15:40

"In April 2026, we will be launching a national network of local WI Sisterhood groups, which will offer monthly opportunities for all people, including transgender women, to come together to socialise, learn from each other, and
share their experiences of living as women

By that, they’re basically saying men who know they’re men, aren’t welcome, but men who believe they’re women, are.

I'd be happy to go along and share my experiences of living as a woman.

It won't take long. Under one second, I imagine.

FallenSloppyDead3 · 01/03/2026 18:14

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 01/03/2026 17:52

I'd be happy to go along and share my experiences of living as a woman.

It won't take long. Under one second, I imagine.

I actually think it would be useful to have a bunch of blokes turn up and ask how to go about living as a woman. Put them on the spot

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2026 18:45

Marmaladelover · 01/03/2026 16:36

Yes a club for doing womanning better.

'monthly opportunities for all people, including transgender women, to come together to socialise, learn from each other, and share their experiences of living as women'

What is a transwoman going to teach women about living as women that women don't know by ... living as women? How to deal with a ladyboner while tucking?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/03/2026 19:18

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2026 18:45

'monthly opportunities for all people, including transgender women, to come together to socialise, learn from each other, and share their experiences of living as women'

What is a transwoman going to teach women about living as women that women don't know by ... living as women? How to deal with a ladyboner while tucking?

It really is framing women as support humans for these men isn't it? How many women have previously been invited to "share their experiences of living as a women" with other women?
Maybe discussions about women's health issues, pregnancy, giving birth, breastfeeding? Parenting our children, mental health issues, VAWG or even sharing our professional expertise on a range of issues? But "living as a woman" Seriously?

That's the role the WI think women must fulfil for these men? All those years of women's suffrage and the WI reduce women to teaching disordered men about womanhood.

They're not the brightest of thinkers in the WI are they?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 01/03/2026 19:22

No man can have any experience of what it’s like to live as a woman - all they can do is perform their toxically stereotypical idea of femininity - a stereotype that actual women have spent decades fighting free from.

Maybe the WI would like to make a group where I can share my experience of living as a cat? It is every bit as plausible as a man telling us how to woman correctly.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 01/03/2026 20:37

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/03/2026 19:18

It really is framing women as support humans for these men isn't it? How many women have previously been invited to "share their experiences of living as a women" with other women?
Maybe discussions about women's health issues, pregnancy, giving birth, breastfeeding? Parenting our children, mental health issues, VAWG or even sharing our professional expertise on a range of issues? But "living as a woman" Seriously?

That's the role the WI think women must fulfil for these men? All those years of women's suffrage and the WI reduce women to teaching disordered men about womanhood.

They're not the brightest of thinkers in the WI are they?

It demonstrates, yet again, that no one believes they are women. It's actually more patronising and 'othering' than recognising them openly as men.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/03/2026 21:02

Maybe the WI would like to make a group where I can share my experience of living as a cat?

I'll be honest I'd sign up for that 😁

Thistleton · 01/03/2026 21:23

I’ve received my email about this today. I honestly don’t know what to do. I love my little WI, and I don’t want to leave. But it feels as though I’m being compelled to affirm something I don’t believe.

A couple of hours ago I was all for refusing to sign but now I’m feeling as though I would be walking away from something I really enjoy and should I let them bully me into that when the substantive issue is resolved since the SC ruling.

Feeling really torn.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/03/2026 21:37

Thistleton · 01/03/2026 21:23

I’ve received my email about this today. I honestly don’t know what to do. I love my little WI, and I don’t want to leave. But it feels as though I’m being compelled to affirm something I don’t believe.

A couple of hours ago I was all for refusing to sign but now I’m feeling as though I would be walking away from something I really enjoy and should I let them bully me into that when the substantive issue is resolved since the SC ruling.

Feeling really torn.

The content maybe irrelevant, do you really want to belong to an organisation that is compelling you to sign something you know to be wrong. Have you had a chat with anyone else in your group, maybe everyone else feels the same way, you could send a response back to HQ stating your branch wasn't prepared to sigh a 'pledge' because you don't live in communist China.

HildegardP · 01/03/2026 21:59

EyesOpening · 01/03/2026 15:40

"In April 2026, we will be launching a national network of local WI Sisterhood groups, which will offer monthly opportunities for all people, including transgender women, to come together to socialise, learn from each other, and
share their experiences of living as women

By that, they’re basically saying men who know they’re men, aren’t welcome, but men who believe they’re women, are.

The WI need much better lawyers.

HildegardP · 01/03/2026 22:03

EwwSprouts · 01/03/2026 17:41

Some members of the WI where I am a member have already flounced. 4 or 5. Others are awaiting the Sisterhood. They can't see that TWAW does not sit with having a women's refuge (for biological women only) as charity of the year. I can't decide whether to renew or not in April.

The leadership can get it right. Below is a current campaign of the type of interest that attracted me. I don't knit, bake etc. The WI put a lot of work into looking more modern and current. Men have no lived experience of ovarian cancer (another campaign) or this:

Biologically, women have unique oral health challenges, leading to women having poorer oral health in comparison to men over their lifetime. Women’s saliva tends to be more acidic than men’s, increasing the rate of dental decay in their mouths. Changing hormone levels during the menstrual cycle, pregnancy, and menopause can also raise the risk of problems in women’s mouths, teeth, or gums.
In a patriarchal system women are disproportionately responsible for the care load of their household, including being responsible for the cooking, cleaning, and childcare. Women are therefore often responsible for the health of both younger and older family relatives, including their oral health. With NHS dental appointments becoming harder to obtain, women are bearing financial, temporal, physical, and mental health burdens for not only themselves but also their loved ones. https://www.thewi.org.uk/campaigns/key-and-current-campaigns/dental-health-matters

Stay. I'm going to join & be thoroughly obstreperous on this topic whenever I can. I've heard on the grapevine that one WI near here fell apart due the the lads, I'm damned if I'm going to let them trash the whole thing. That's their MO, "Gimme, or I'll break it & nobody can have it".
No.

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 01/03/2026 22:16

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/03/2026 19:18

It really is framing women as support humans for these men isn't it? How many women have previously been invited to "share their experiences of living as a women" with other women?
Maybe discussions about women's health issues, pregnancy, giving birth, breastfeeding? Parenting our children, mental health issues, VAWG or even sharing our professional expertise on a range of issues? But "living as a woman" Seriously?

That's the role the WI think women must fulfil for these men? All those years of women's suffrage and the WI reduce women to teaching disordered men about womanhood.

They're not the brightest of thinkers in the WI are they?

The WI used to be a force to be reckoned with. My mum was proud to be a member.

Now they are just an embarrassment.

Greyskybluesky · 01/03/2026 22:31

Thistleton · 01/03/2026 21:23

I’ve received my email about this today. I honestly don’t know what to do. I love my little WI, and I don’t want to leave. But it feels as though I’m being compelled to affirm something I don’t believe.

A couple of hours ago I was all for refusing to sign but now I’m feeling as though I would be walking away from something I really enjoy and should I let them bully me into that when the substantive issue is resolved since the SC ruling.

Feeling really torn.

I feel the same.
On a local level this isn't an issue.
But I really despise the national leadership right now.

tesseractor · 01/03/2026 22:49

Greyskybluesky · 01/03/2026 22:31

I feel the same.
On a local level this isn't an issue.
But I really despise the national leadership right now.

Another feeling the same. I’d just about decided to renew in April, because I want to support my small group but now I’ve swithered right back to how can I support National, and have my share of fees that go to National used for this.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 01/03/2026 23:42

Bobbymoore123 · 27/02/2026 11:08

Can you articulate, with actual reasoning and reference to specific parts of this policy, what you don't agree with?

The references throughout to “transgender women”, by which they mean trans-identifying men. The WI is intended for women only.

Coatsoff42 · 02/03/2026 06:40

I wonder if, come April, when all the men actually leave this will all die down and the WI can get on with doing what the membership want? I think this is them kicking over a chair on their way out of the door.

ArabellaScott · 02/03/2026 07:17

If you are in the WI and have 'gender critical views', now is the time to speak up about it. Write to head office and let them know how you feel. Plenty of trans rights activists are very loud - women who dont want to bow to the orthodoxy must also speak up. They only win by bullying. Dont let them.

MarionHaste · 02/03/2026 10:06

Like others, I am struggling with whether to renew my membership. DH and DD think it would be horribly hypocritical to do so, but I'm sure if I 'flounce' I will be counted as one who disagreed with the new eligibility criteria. When I did contact NFWI last year with my views this must have been what happened, as the reply I received was along the lines of 'we are all disappointed with the ruling'.

Emigree · 02/03/2026 10:12

SabrinaThwaite · 01/03/2026 17:27

TBH, if these Sisterhood meetings are going to be all about how to do womanning properly, they are going to be very dull.

I don’t give a toss about the best skirts go spinny and nail varnish, I want to know how to make a hat out of kitchen implements (which my old village WI used to do).

Edited

I want to hear more about this hat...

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