Finally!! A political canvasser has knocked on my door.

[GargoylesofBeelzebub]

Representative of a Labour candidate. He handed me a flyer and asked me what my thoughts were. I have been waiting for this moment for a LONG time!

I told him I would only be voting for candidates who recognised that the definition of a woman was someone of the female biological sex and would uphold the Supreme Court ruling.

He stood there grinding his teeth and said he had no idea what her stance on the matter was. 🙄 I expressed surprise given it’s a big topic in the news right now…

He denied it had ever cropped up and turned tail and ran.

I live in a village of about 500 souls about 20 minutes down country lanes from the town that is the centre of both my constituency and my LA ward. Never seen a canvasser. Fortunately, I meet my MP frequently on a social basis and my local councillor is my FiL.

Only joking obs.

Oh we do. We have an independent councillor who drives about blaring stuff when it’s election time.

Oh my I’ve missed a trick! Why oh why did I let him off so lightly! 😂😂

I would agree. I doubt most people care as much as we do. They will, however, if asked directly, say that they don't agree with men in women's sports or men in women's toilets, (and polls confirm this), but it's not top of mind when a canvasser comes round.

I got blacklisted for asking about tax (particularly Council tax bandings)

nothing to do with Gender Woo

It is pure cowardice of parties to want to pretend that they do not get push back on the door step

We get Labour and green a lot. Lib Dems put guff through the letterbox disguised as some kind of apolitical local newsletter but never knock the door.

Had one yesterday but CBA to speak to them. Sometimes I do though.

Got another one at the door today.

Big change in the answer. He said my Labour candidate is committed to protecting single sex spaces for women. He also mentioned the SNP candidate for our area was one of the ones pictured with a “decapitate TERFS” sign.

I asked him to feed back that women’s single sex spaces are a red line for me and he said he would.

Labour may just have gained my vote on Thursday.

I’ve only had Greens and with the earlier posts in mind told them I wasn’t voting for them and didn’t want to take up too much of their time when they wanted to chat. It seems they did want to spend time chatting

Yesterday the LibDem canvasser had the misfortune of meeting me as he was leafleting his way up the road to my house. I think he might have regretted engaging with what he probably thought was just a mild-looking middle-aged woman in gardening scruffs carrying a pint of milk from the corner shop.

Ha! He got someone with very clear VIEWS who said she was a natural LibDem voter but they absolutely wouldn't get her vote until they were crystal clear that SSS for women were exactly that.

Poor chap did look a bit keen to get away after the first couple of minutes. And although he feigned not being able to discuss national policy he knew straightaway what I was talking about when I referred to the FWS judgment.

Who knows if the feedback will actually be fed back but they can't say they weren't told.

The leader of the Labour Party (now the PM) said on national television that it would not be right to say that women don’t have penises. A certain percentage do, according to those like Keir Starmer professing their ideological (anti science and anti reality) patter. They seem to think their misogyny is great when they call it ‘progressive’.

So, it seems strange for the canvassers to pretend they don’t know nuttin about the issue.

I wouldn’t trust any man or woman who blithely spouted that women have penises. With men spouting such misogyny (albeit pretending it is ok because it is now ‘progressive’), I’d weigh up their risk factors vis a vis women and children. Women don’t commit sex crimes/offences at anything like the rates for men. So, they can be enablers and accessories, but it is the men who predominantly do most such crimes.

So, I’d even be wondering why these men want any man who wishes to flash, peep, and access spaces where women and children are undressed or vulnerable in any way. They don’t mention that bit. Just that men really want to access women and children under the guise of presenting (pretending?) as a woman. Well, sometimes they don’t bother even with that bit. And how very ugly of women to not go along with it. Or, worse still have the temerity to call it out as the horrible abuse it is.

Then there is the issue of men cheating by competing against women in sports. Prizes, opportunities, recognition of true female excellence all stolen because some dudes want to unfairly compete, and just shit on women and girls. That is even before the horrendous physical danger to women and girls in some ball and contact sports.

Then they are all pretending it is because they are kind. Not to women and girls they’re not.

Ridiculous for council candidates to say the FWS judgment has nowt to do with them. They are in charge of schools, social care so it has direct implications in both these areas

So, for those on the « black list » how does that work under GDPR?

Potentially there are political parties collecting personally identifying information (name and address) and political views/ affiliation (which are protected views, in that they are information about you that could lead to discrimination and harassment; they are like religion or health status or trade union membership) and you are not informed that they are collecting a piece of information about you (avoid and reason to avoid) or what they intend to do with that information, how long they intend to keep it for or who they pass it to.
How would the ICO treat that?

@MotherOfCatBoy
They are political party canvassers collecting political affiliation for the purposes of electioneering
they know who is on the electoral roll at each address (they are issued with the list)
therefore its well within their data rights to make on the list "do not knock on that door"

Oh that’s good news!

I’ve only had one canvasser - a Reform bloke who after my emphatic response that I’d absolutely not ever vote for them asked me ‘would you mind telling me why not’. That got a ‘where shall I start… let’s start with Nigel Farage…’ but he beat a hasty retreat before I could get much further.😂

Last time we had council elections I asked the canvasser if he could tell me what a woman was, he said he couldn’t answer that! Totally Libdem , MP and council here. Not been canvassed this time, I’m probably black listed!

But over here, on the other side of the fence, this happened

our trans mtf child was visiting when there was a knock on the door. He offered to answer it, we heard a few seconds of ‘vote labour cos’ and then this reply “I’m trans and I’ll never vote for you again” (door slammed)

so it looks like labour are getting some serious splinters from trying to straddle the fence

Btw, it’s turns out to be quite difficult to stop laughing after hearing a serious burn

What was the “serious burn” here?

I had a canvasser round the other week- first one in years, I think. And he was a LibDem.

He waffled for a bit. I asked about his party's policies re: women's rights. He waffled some more about how super liberal and inclusive they were, how they treat everyone fairly etc. I asked again about women's rights "and by that I mean biological women". Then he said something about how the local elections were about different things, and how great LibDems would be for my area.

He asked four times if he could put me down as a LibDem voter, Three times I said I'd think about it. Fourth time I said no. He simpered a bit at that point.

He was a very irritating little man, tbh.

Whereas my Tory MP (pretty decent) could 2 years ago - we had a great long-ish chat on the doorstep. He however was also keen to emphasise that trans-identified people need to have protection, akin to gay rights, so he was clearly trying to be reasonable. But he was well informed. We dont have elections this year, but the green party still put a leaflet through my door earlier this weekend. Not a whisper of gay/trans issues. And not a whisper as it hit my green recycling bin. I had read it. Wondered about emailing, but I did decide that time was not worth it. Whereas I would have held a full and lengthy discussion on the doorstep if they had bothered to knock.

The Lib Dems do tend to pride themselves on their localist credentials, and to be fair, at a local level ( which is what council elections are supposed to be about) they do tend to be more effective than most at responding to neighbourhood concerns. However this round of elections is obviously being floated as a proxy for national politics......and for that reason I'd certainly not vote Lib Dem should my city council be involved on Thursday ( which it isn't this time).

I've only ever had one too, several years ago - it went something like this.

Canvasser: "hello, I'm representing the Conservative candidate. Can we count on your vote?"

Me: "No."

Him: "Is there any point trying to change your mind?"

Me: "Nope."

Him: "Fair enough."

We bade each other a friendly farewell and that was that. Never had one since.

I still haven't seen a single canvasser. I know there's an election in a couple of days, but canvassers in my ward seem to be like Bigfoot.

I have noticed that the YouTube algorithm is targeting lots of Labour adverts towards me, but none of them feature the Prime Minister. They're either Wes Streeting telling me how quickly waiting lists are coming down (big if true), or Morleys fried chicken spokesman Sadiq Khan, who seems to have some vague connection to the Labour Party.

To be fair a million years ago when I was politically active canvassing was all about identifying your vote so you could encourage/ make sure you persuaded them to go and vote on polling day. It really wasn’t about policy and anyway the foot soldiers doing the canvassing had absolutely no effect on national policies. It was frankly a pretty thankless task.

But should they be recording the answers, eg from this thread either women’s rights or tax - and not telling you? Collecting information is fine, as long as they tell you what they are collecting and for what purpose. I don’t think anyone on this thread who’s had a party strike through their name has been told that or told why or that they saved the reason.