Sex discrimination and all the other unlawful discriminations to become lawful

[Tadpolesinponds]

...if Reform wins the next general election.
Politics latest: Reform would scrap Equality Act, says Braverman | Politics News | Sky News

Until they discover that their own rights have been quietly removed.

The question is, what is the problem that people see as needing to be fixed. That's really important to know.

All over the site at the moment there are people giving very edited versions of what the Reform policies will be, what they mean, and what the motives are of people who would like such a policy. Like claiming that they are going to put extra taxes on childless women.

Which means it's not really possible to discuss the policies in a real way.

It's a total own goal too because it makes it seem like those pushing this stuff don't actually believe that the policies can be argued against honestly.

Can you tell exactly what is being proposed? Ie the detail of what will be in any replacement legislation.

Because if you can't tell us exactly what is going to be in it, then people are 100% right to be extremely concerned.

Terrifying that you think such important legislation could be passed with no debate.

Women didn't make up the claim that additional taxes were proposed on childless women though? That was a statement made by Matt Goodwin, which understandably women are going to voice their opinion on based on the information or statements Reform candidates are stating. From what I've seen the people who are saying women's reactions are making it impossible to discuss the policies don't actually have a policy to hand that confirms womens concerns are unfounded?

We do know, surely? It's because some people feel they aren't getting enough of the good stuff, or are in danger of losing the good stuff to people who are not them.
Identifying what they see as the problem is the easy bit. The hard part is reaching consensus as to whether they are reasonable in that belief and whether its something we need to do something about, and if so, what?

Well if racist Reform or racist Rupert win then gender critical people will certainly get what they want regarding issues relating to trans people. Yes I'm calling Rupert a racist, without apology.

However we could also say goodbye to gay rights, women's rights and protection from sex/religion/disability/ageist discrimination (Reform have straight up said they will tear up the Equality Act and discrimination policies). Pregnant women, middle-aged people and the disabled are going to find it extra difficult to find employment. Oh and forget disability benefits too since they will either be gone or extremely difficult to qualify for.

Rupert's party is called "Restore Britain". Restore to what exactly? The patriarchy days when the only people with rights and a voice were white, male, heterosexual Christians with wealth?

Who you vote for is your choice but do be careful what you wish for.

I think we should be worried. Even if they are talking about replacement not repeal we would be reliant on Reform politicians to make sure that all the right protections get carried forward into the new legislation. Frankly I do not think they have demonstrated the understanding of the Equality Act and what it does to be able to do that. We will also lose all the work that has been done by FWS et al through the courts and will have to start again with new cases. I’m not opposed to modifying the EA but this policy is a huge risk to our rights.

Frankly I do not think they have demonstrated the understanding of the Equality Act

The fact they referred to it as the Equalities Act in their manifesto doesn't exactly bode well.

Yea, lots of women have already pointed out the pitfalls. Couldn't you hear their dainty little voices?

There is a whole smorgasbord of parties who would like to say goodbye to women's rights - The SNP and the Greens are positively chomping at the bit.

"gender critical people will certainly get what they want regarding issues relating to trans people"

I am sure this image has been shared many, many times.

Feminists just want reality based women's rights. It's not complicated.

I think that Reform have just added themselves to the list of parties not safe for women with this policy. A list that includes Green, SNP, Lib Dem and Labour.

Yes I'm calling Rupert a racist, without apology

And you are totally right to do so @Christinapple . Look at this abhorrent racism. The twee pastoral illustration also indicates how Rupert views women.

'I, on the other hand, think it's 'fucking mental' to vote for a party based on what I would like them to have said instead of what they have actually said.'

Well a lot of feminists told me Labour had promised to protect single sex spaces so I could vote for them at the last election. I didn't and they haven't.
Meanwhile the Greens talk about reforming the Equality Act.
Trust no one.

The way it has been announced is intended to be provocative. They say they will repeal the act on Day 1 of any new government.

It might play well in a populist way with people who don't really understand the reach and depth of the Equality Act..... and a who are resentful about the perceived negative impacts of DEI on white people, and white boys especially -but you cannot just repeal something without having something watertight and functional to stand in its place.

Yes. All too easy to rip stuff down without thinking, and then leave everyone with an unholy mess.

Cameron's Brexit being the perfect example.

I’ve just seen a video of Victoria Derbyshire questioning one the Reform lot about this issue. She managed to establish that Reform will be replacing the Equality Act with another act. When she asked which protected characteristic he would be including or if it would be exactly the same as the ones we already have, he wouldn’t answer the question. He did concede that women wouso not be fired for being pregnant, which was very big of him.

So we’re either going to get a Law which offers the same protections as now or we aren’t. We Do NOT know that at the moment.

Either way Reform are utter wankers imo.

Apologies I can’t find the Victoria Derbyshire interview but it was on Newsnight last night.

Is this it, Lizzie?

https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3mf3o5lq2322x

Yes thank you!

Whatever they say in a showboating publicity grab I doubt very much they would just repeal the Act as a whole.
I do think the act would benefit from review.
https://dontdivideus.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/DDU-Equality-Act-report-2025-final.pdf

^The problem with tasking the law, no matter how

righteous the cause, with improving future social

arrangements, is that it then becomes increasingly easy

to circumvent democratic processes and reduce the

scope for individual judgment and decision-making.

It should not be difficult to see that in the course of

its development, the EA has effectively transformed

previous anti-discrimination law which protected the

individual against clearly conceptualised and widely

understood acts of discrimination, into legislation that

essentially gives carte blanche for the regulation of

all relationships in places where the EA applies, which

includes all workplaces and wherever we receive

goods and services, i.e. most places outside home.

The problem with the EA is fundamental: its reach is so

wide and subjective tests are so central to its ethos,

that it cannot serve as an effective tool for social

improvement, and it cannot be a sound basis for law

in a democracy.^

He talks about the problems of white working class boys and then mentions 'Positive Action' - measures to encourage and train people from under-represented groups to help them overcome disadvantages in competing with other applicants - as though Positive Action couldn't be used to help them.

Wow, so many newbs having a conversation all of their own in here!

But currently positive action and protected characteristics don't cover class so can't be used.

The Labour Party are looking at enacting the socio-economic duty in the Act and there have been calls to specifically make class a PC. I don't remember Reform supporting that. Meanwhile, Nige believes it's middle class white man who are the truly disadvantaged.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-equality-act-reform-b2922933.html