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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

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fromorbit · 11/02/2026 07:59

Looks like it was a man in a dress. Another tragedy. More lives lost. Boys with violent tendencies cannot be told they are actually girls. The violent background of trans activism is a problem.

REDUXX
https://x.com/reduxx/status/2021483339719311435

BREAKING

The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang.

Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023.

Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning how to shoot rifles when he was just a child. Many guns were kept in the family's residence.

Facebook posts from his mother indicate he may have struggled with behavioral issues, including violent tendencies, from a very young age.

Strang fatally shot 10 people prior to taking his own life.

In 2021, Strang launched a YouTube channel that was promoted by his mother on her Facebook. The channel was dedicated to "hunting, self-reliance, guns" and his other interests. At some point, Strang deleted the content on the channel and changed his handle from "Jesse Boy" to "JessJessUwU." The only remaining post on the channel was made 6 months ago and reads "I've been pretty, um, aimless."

REDUXX (@reduxx) on X

BREAKING The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang. Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023. Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning ho...

https://x.com/reduxx/status/2021483339719311435

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fromorbit · 12/02/2026 04:38

Great analysis as normal. The attempt to do a coverup of these cases is failing.

SEENinJournalism
'Reducing a murderous tragedy to pronouns'
Coverage of the Tumbler Ridge murders - just give us the facts.

Feb 11, 2026
Don’t mistake us. Those of us who called for the authorities and the media for clarity on the sex of the killer at Tumbler Ridge are not minimising the deaths of nine people in one of Canada’s deadliest mass shootings. We’re saying it’s what happens when the information is withheld.

As Gerald Posner clarifies:

‘This is not a minor semantic dispute. In high-profile crimes, accurate reporting matters. Biological sex is a data category used in criminology, public policy, and statistical analysis. Erasing it, or substituting identity categories without clarity, distorts public understanding’

It means that instead of analysing - again - what leads people to commit heinous crimes like this, and whether sex, or factors around trans identification could have been a driver, we are wasting time trying to find out whether the killer was a man at all, never mind whether he identified as the opposite sex. Legacy media will address neither.

https://seeninjournalism.substack.com/p/reducing-a-murderous-tragedy-to-pronouns?r=3lemhw&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

'Reducing a murderous tragedy to pronouns'

Coverage of the Tumbler Ridge murders - just give us the facts.

https://seeninjournalism.substack.com/p/reducing-a-murderous-tragedy-to-pronouns?r=3lemhw&triedRedirect=true

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hholiday · 12/02/2026 05:31

andIsaid · 12/02/2026 00:01

IMO - traditional media deserves to fail with this he/she nonsense.

They are the anti science.

Like - mad, insane, flat-earthers, climate change deniers, and the earth was created in six days.

Literally , that is how low they are with this.

How can ANY rational, normal person can read them, listen to them or trust them on anything at all is beyond me at this stage - they get this so wrong.

The BBC used to say they'd rather wait and be last with the news, but get it right, rather than be first and get it wrong. This was what was meant to distinguish them from reactionary tabloids/ social media - they were slow but reliable. They never apply this to gender. And then they have the brass neck to complain people are getting their news from social media now.

Datun · 12/02/2026 06:05

DotAndCarryOne2 · 11/02/2026 19:02

Nope. All up for a in depth discussion about all the issues mentioned here. But the fact is the immediate aftermath of the killing of innocent people is neither the time nor the place. Neither is the ridiculously self serving criticism of the police for their immediate description of the killer, which was based on eye witnesses calls. The sex or gender identity of the killer won’t be the uppermost thing in the minds of the victims’ families tonight. Several posts saying that posters immediate thoughts on hearing the news was ‘it’s a man’. Only on MN. In the real world the immediate thought is ‘God help the victims and their families’.

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Only on MN. In the real world the immediate thought is ‘God help the victims and their families’.

If you follow the reporting links, you'll see, by the comments, that in the real world, people are very much concerned about the covering up the sex of this killer.

Especially as many people believe that this ideology seems to attract, or produce, violent, angry, woman hating men.

This knowledge and concern in no way detracts from the grief over the victims. It's horrifying.

fromorbit · 12/02/2026 06:53

Some cross dressing men are incredibly dangerous. These are facts. We need to talk about them.

As the UN notes Canada has form.

Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls

As I said in my report to the Human Rights Council in June 2025: "Particularly concerning is the fact that in a number of countries, such as.... Canada .... the judiciary and the media call male perpetrators of violence by their self-declared gender identity, thereby also skewing the rates of male and female offending. Since women commit a very low number of violent crimes, ....even small variations can have statistically significant effects. Those statistical anomalies have been detected already in Canada.... Neutral approaches to sex and gender also enforce victim blaming of women, minimize abuse, enforce male privilege and affect the ability of State and other actors to identify and define violence against females as primarily male violence, rendering it more difficult to combat."

Meanwhile the British Columbia Teacher's Federation is trying to evade the issue:
https://x.com/venus_envious/status/2021815357900779560

Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls (@UNSRVAW) on X

Account of Reem Alsalem UN Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women and Girls, A.K.A.“the person from the UN” retweets do not necessarily mean endorsement

https://x.com/UNSRVAW

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CompetitionMyArse · 12/02/2026 06:54

CompetitionMyArse · 11/02/2026 10:28

This being Canada, it's highly likely to be recorded as a crime committed by a woman.

There will inevitably be a long line apologists lining up with an outpouring of sympathy for this poor, misunderstood woman who was much maligned and rejected by a cruel, heartless proportion of mainstream society, which caused her to need to do this heinous thing. It was clearly a cry for help and an act of desperation against the unfairness of a world that refused to accept her as the authentic woman that she was .

We have all been warned that trans-identified people are at a high risk of suicide so we should hang our heads in shame that we didn't make life easier for her before she felt she had no choice but kill herself while murdering several others. Or some such shit.

Mark my words, tiktok and X and Threads will be full of it.

Quoting myself here, because as predicted, it's started.

Just seen this on tiktok this morning from an account called 'Charity'.

'To Conservatives in Canada:

This is not a time to vilify a marginalised group of people. Instead, use this tragedy to better understand the struggles of people that you choose to invalidate daily for being who they are.'

Ahh, so it's our fault.

storminabuttercup · 12/02/2026 07:02

@CompetitionMyArsei came here before reading any news or social this morning but the last thing I said last night to DH was this will somehow be our fault, JK will get a battering at some point, #bekind will be splattered everywhere like confetti it’s just sick

HarryMaguireSlabHead · 12/02/2026 07:23

Both BBC News and Sky News last night said the killer was female. Both described him as 'her'. Sky News even added a disclaimer that female mass killers like this are rare

storminabuttercup · 12/02/2026 07:27

HarryMaguireSlabHead · 12/02/2026 07:23

Both BBC News and Sky News last night said the killer was female. Both described him as 'her'. Sky News even added a disclaimer that female mass killers like this are rare

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guessing they aren’t adding that the crime stats for men in women’s clothes tracks at the same rate as all male crimes? Worded that badly but it’s early

TheBeaTgoeson1 · 12/02/2026 07:29

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I mean, that’s not him. But never let the truth get in the way of a good story eh?

Newmeagain · 12/02/2026 07:32

I just read an article in the guardian and my jaw dropped when I read that it was an 18 year old woman. Wow, I thought, how surprising. But then I read on…

Honestly. This kind of reporting has to stop.

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 12/02/2026 07:37

Just had a brief look at the rag type newspapers thinking they or more likely to tell the truth on this subject. The Mirror reports 'shot herself', The Sun at least specifies born a male but started to transition to female.

WarriorN · 12/02/2026 07:38

BBC this morning

Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada
WonderfulSmith · 12/02/2026 07:38

BBC radio 4 news headline just talked about the suspect without using pronouns and then said that they were born male but identified as a woman.

oldtiredcyclist · 12/02/2026 07:38

Newmeagain · 12/02/2026 07:32

I just read an article in the guardian and my jaw dropped when I read that it was an 18 year old woman. Wow, I thought, how surprising. But then I read on…

Honestly. This kind of reporting has to stop.

Last night, Channel 4 and 5, ITV and BBC were all reporting it was a female shooter. It has now taken 24 hours for the BBC to change their story. What a disgusting organisation they are. BBC "Verify", is that some kind of sick joke?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8w95knp55o

Flowers left near the scene of Tumbler Ridge shooting.

Police identify 18-year-old as suspect in Tumbler Ridge shooting

Six people were killed and at least 25 others were injured at a school, and two others were found dead at a nearby home.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8w95knp55o

WarriorN · 12/02/2026 07:40

The issue and confusion is that Canadian authorities are using the term female. So reporters can pick and choose to an extent.

The bbc are now being accurate and clarifying to a degree but still quoting the term female. So now the term female can only be accurate if coupled with biological.

which is ridiculous imo

Holidaymodeon · 12/02/2026 07:41

Chersfrozenface · 11/02/2026 08:23

Would they have known him as "female"? Given that he was 17 and had only started "identifying as female" in 2023.

As soon as you announce you’re ‘female’ or whatever you call yourself people fall into line and you become whomever you say are.
i was selling women’s clothes online recently and received a photo in my selling inbox of a beared man in what would be traditionally known as women’s clothes , as though to prove his femme credentials.
obviously I hadn’t requested this ‘evidence’

Holidaymodeon · 12/02/2026 07:43

HarryMaguireSlabHead · 12/02/2026 07:23

Both BBC News and Sky News last night said the killer was female. Both described him as 'her'. Sky News even added a disclaimer that female mass killers like this are rare

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Fucking hell. Emperors new clothes .
i guess when we live in a world where trump is a world leader, anything can and does happen.

GrooveArmada · 12/02/2026 07:45

Only on MN would some choose to blame women for standing up strong for being publicly blamed for crimes they did not commit.

Shame on those posters.

SidewaysOtter · 12/02/2026 07:50

From a post above: there’s a “transguns” Reddit? WTF?

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 12/02/2026 07:52

The coercive control abuse element is so clear.

Killer gets to dictate how everyone speaks, even in death. The ideology both attracts and creates abusers.

The victims don't get to declare an identity - no-one bothers to ask - but are categorised according to sex without any comment on how the reporting is using different language for killer and victims. 'Gender' for killer, suddenly when it comes to the victims sex is recognised. Even though sex is important when it comes to the killer - sex is a predictor of who commits these kind of crimes, males are hugely, disproportionately more likely to commit these crimes.

People in Canada are under totalitarian control on this issue. Good for international news outlets like Al Jazeera who report what the Canadian authorities say then say 'the sex of the shooter has not been confirmed'. Because sex matters in murder and mass murder. And journalists elsewhere in the world are not afraid to report on this.

If you look at the comments on X under Trudeau's post, most Canadians are angry about the lies - they just don't have many routes to complain because they'll be punished if they recognise the gaslighting, the primacy given to killer over victims, the inability to name reality, the obfuscation of sex. But only when it comes to the killer, of course.

emilysquest · 12/02/2026 07:52

The bbc article is saying in the first couple of paragraphs that he was "born a biological male" (ridiculous phrase as he is obviously still a "biological male", or "man", an easier term to understand). But the guardian calls him a woman at the outset, in the first paragraph, and doesn't mention anything related to his sex until 11 paragraphs in. So wrong.

And they write that police “identified the suspect as they chose to be identified” in public and in social media. So a mass murderer 's choice to pretend to be something he isn't is more important than truth in reporting the facts of this crime?

emilysquest · 12/02/2026 07:53

The bbc article is saying in the first couple of paragraphs that he was "born a biological male" (ridiculous phrase as he is obviously still a "biological male", or "man", an easier term to understand). But the guardian calls him a woman at the outset, in the first paragraph, and doesn't mention anything related to his sex until 11 paragraphs in. So wrong.

And they write that police “identified the suspect as they chose to be identified” in public and in social media. So a mass murderer 's choice to pretend to be something he isn't is more important than truth in reporting the facts of this crime?

emilysquest · 12/02/2026 07:53

Sorry, I dont know why my phone did that

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 12/02/2026 07:57

So a mass murderer 's choice to pretend to be something he isn't is more important than truth in reporting the facts of this crime?

This is a great way to put it and summarises what's going on very neatly. All those news outlets colluding with this massive lie should hang their heads in shame.

SecretSquirrelLoo · 12/02/2026 07:58

In Sweden the big daily newspaper Dagens Nyheter has gone with straight out lies, reporting the gunman as ‘a woman’ with no mention of the fact that he was actually male:

https://www.dn.se/varlden/tio-doda-efter-skolskjutning/

They also use a passive tense for what happened to most of the victims. ‘Were killed’ or ‘died’ instead of ‘he killed’.

Men’s fantasy lives remain the most important thing in the world.

Polischefen: 18-årig kvinna dödade åtta personer i masskjutningen

Nio personer dog i samband med dådet på skolan i västkanadensiska Tumbler Ridge, bekräftar polischefen Dwayne McDonald på en presskonferens…

https://www.dn.se/varlden/tio-doda-efter-skolskjutning/