Marina Hyde on Epstein’s enablers: will they get away with it? |

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Just wanted to share this video where Marina Hyde (journalist and podcaster) talks about the misogyny of the Epstein saga. I agree in all this chat about political scandal etc the mainstream media are not discussing the deeply rooted misogyny behind all of this. It is depressing, dispiriting, totally unsurprising (to most women).

Of course some of these same also people talk about 'sex work' and 'choice' and how women and girls can make up their own minds. It takes an act of conscious cognitive dissonance to hold together the idea of 'victims' on one hand, but also the concept of sexual liberation and the 'right' to accrue money or benefits from the sale of one's body, on the other.

At what point does one become a victim, rather than a conscious chooser?

At what point does one become a victim, rather than a conscious chooser?

Perhaps the point where they realise they made a really bad choice and choose to not do it anymore but can't get out of the situation they find themselves in because those who hold the power in the situation won't let them.

Though, of course, you could say the same about prostitution, but in that case the thing that is preventing the women from leaving is the perception that this is the 'easiest' way for them to obtain the money they need to survive. The idea of the 'happy hooker' who just does it for fun is a fantasy.

A lot of hypocrisy in the media. How many sexual predators have been revealed to work in the media and happily promoted by all these people?

The establishment (governments of all levels, mainstream media etc) are all in on it, they know all about the behaviours of certain individuals but all chose to keep quiet and then pretend that they never knew.

Yep. And the unpleasant briefing against each other to try and get Starmer out so they can get the top job. Those victims sure are convenient for getting ahead!

and funny how other victims, such as the grooming gang victims, aren’t so convenient so a generally ignored

Nope. The point at which girls become victims is usually WAY before that. Having known more women working in the sex industry than is usual I can tell you that 100% were survivors of child sex abuse even if they didn’t tell it that way.
Its hard to explain how seedy and twisted the world of men paying for sexual activity is, and so many girls fall into it because they have been trained to think of themselves in a certain way since childhood.

See, I think the conversation should be about the men - otherwise they get to hide (behind the victims), become invisible.

We need the focus to stay firmly on them - keep them exposed, keep exposing the unnamed, have them shamed and shunned.

Yes - the victims need their day - absolutely.

But they will only get proper accountability if those who abused them are hung out, and have to carry publicly what the victims carried privately.

Hopefully someone will to go to prison.

For that though, the statute of limitations for sex crimes needs to be revisited. It protects these fuckers the world over.

We have enough understanding to know that victims will not come forward within the prescribed term limits.

This has always been known in my opinion, hence those term limits in the first place.

@Shortshriftandlethal - At what point does one become a victim, rather than a conscious chooser?

This is a very interesting point.

In my opinion, we have literally groomed our young, especially young girls. completely and utterly failed them. Handed them over, en masse to nasty people who would have them walk red carpets naked or topless and call it empowerment.

But - even if we do not want to accept that or argue it, one can imagine that a young girl could be persuaded to come to a party where she will meet the world's leaders and royalty.

Once they walk in that door, where all the men are 40 plus, all are have extreme wealth even by wealth standards, all are powerful in some obvious way or other, that are already in a trap that they cannot really get out of.

We know that as women, because we can all imagine being in a room and trying to figure out a way to get out.

They were all so young and those fuckers all so old.

We should not be looking at the "choice" of the young women.

We should be looking at the choice of the men - Bill Gates - really? You fucking wanker.

There is no mechanism in society to bring the perpetrators to justice.
Ten years ago I played a v small part in getting the Westminster enquiry into elite paedophile rings set up in the wake of Savile’s death .
This was obstructed at every turn and by every means possible .
This obstruction came from the press , the police , the judiciary,the BBC ,leading politicians of all parties …I was personally physically threatened .
Politicians talked about ‘leaving no stone unturned’ on TV in seeking justice for the children ( often in care ) who’d been abused / killed .
Whilst powerful men can blackmail other powerful men (and control all the means by which justice could be obtained) over depraved sexual desires things will never change .
Caroline Lucas was one of a handful of MPs who was brave and steadfast in trying to get to the bottom of the hideous sordid mess which effectively controls all of lives .

This is a great read about the misogyny at play within the Epstein scandal
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/feb/07/sex-and-snacks-but-no-seat-at-the-table-the-role-of-women-in-epsteins-sordid-mens-club

McSweeney's gone. OMG, may be Starmer next. 😮

Farage is named but no one is talking about it

So talk about it, what's the details on Farage.

Yes, it appears that he is named, as in named in news articles shared by people about political stories in Europe as part of various emails between various parties.

Can't seem anything so far to show that he was in contact with anyone there.

It just seems to be newspaper articles sent to Epstein which mention him. What is there to talk about? I don’t think it’s a good idea to imply anything that isn’t supported by evidence.

And why was Epstein interested in Farage? The Russian link? Steve Bannon? There’s more to this sorry story than sex. Money talks.

So sorry to hear this, but sadly tallies with so many other occassions when the establishment / men just close ranks.

Its as though even if they themselve have not done wrong, the recognise that the system that puts them in power needs to be protected.

And although when it is about child abuse and sexual violence against women, you would think some would want to stand up and challenge, the cover ups just go on happening.

Look at the Post Office scandal, Grenfell, and many others.

So no surprise that when it is about women and / or children not only does nothing happen, but those who try to make something happen get turned on.

Just remember the treatment of Virginia Giuffre

People trying to make out she was mad, or a fantasist and worse.

Yes, quite possibly there is some political link, but there’s no actual evidence of it in the Epstein files as far as I can see. It’s just speculation until some emerges.