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Thankfully this child has been found safe and well now but if you were local to the area and read this appeal would you have been keeping your eyes out for a male or female child?

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WallaceinAnderland · 06/02/2026 15:26

Liverpool Echo
Call 999 if you see this missing schoolgirl
She was last seen wearing her school uniform

Merseyside Police is appealing for the public's help in finding a teenager who vanished on Monday morning. Schoolgirl Emi Glover-Wade, 15, was last seen on Monday (January 2) morning and police say extensive enquiries are ongoing to find her.

Emi, from St Helens, was last seen wearing a school uniform, including a black blazer and grey jumper. She was also wearing a Linkin Park T-shirt, dark trousers and black Converse trainers with rainbow laces, police said.

The force described her as being around 5ft 3in tall, a slim build, with shoulder length hair and wears glasses for reading. Emi is understood to have links to Glasgow and Inverness.

If you see Emi call 999 immediately so police can make sure she’s safe and well.

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SargeMarge · 06/02/2026 16:43

Fulmine · 06/02/2026 16:35

Clearly the description didn't hamper the child being found, so it's difficult to understand the point of your thread - unless you are simply taking the chance for promoting an anti-trans agenda.

How is it anti trans to say that a trans girl should be described as a trans girl? That’s what this child is. So why not say that?

I would then be looking for a male bodied child, but would know to address them as she.

I understand a lot of people on mumsnet and real life wouldn’t do that, and don’t believe in trans people etc but most of us just want an accurate description so we know what the hell we’re looking for.

“Missing transgirl Emi, also known as Kieran, wearing school uniform and converse with rainbow laces and has shoulder length hair and glasses.”

Then I would know what I’m looking for, and it isn’t offensive or transphobic or whatever else you want to call it.

Why do so many trans people want to hide from the fact they are trans and the world has eyes and can see if, so when you’re looking for a missing person, you need to give a description that matches what people actually see.

Fulmine · 06/02/2026 16:48

SargeMarge · 06/02/2026 16:43

How is it anti trans to say that a trans girl should be described as a trans girl? That’s what this child is. So why not say that?

I would then be looking for a male bodied child, but would know to address them as she.

I understand a lot of people on mumsnet and real life wouldn’t do that, and don’t believe in trans people etc but most of us just want an accurate description so we know what the hell we’re looking for.

“Missing transgirl Emi, also known as Kieran, wearing school uniform and converse with rainbow laces and has shoulder length hair and glasses.”

Then I would know what I’m looking for, and it isn’t offensive or transphobic or whatever else you want to call it.

Why do so many trans people want to hide from the fact they are trans and the world has eyes and can see if, so when you’re looking for a missing person, you need to give a description that matches what people actually see.

Because it is othering her. Clearly, despite Mumsnetters' most dire prognostications, the description of her as a girl has not prevented her from being found, so calling her a trans girl would have served no purpose whatsoever apart from putting up a great big signal to attract homophobes.

SargeMarge · 06/02/2026 16:51

Fulmine · 06/02/2026 16:48

Because it is othering her. Clearly, despite Mumsnetters' most dire prognostications, the description of her as a girl has not prevented her from being found, so calling her a trans girl would have served no purpose whatsoever apart from putting up a great big signal to attract homophobes.

There is no indication that she was found by the public. The way the police spoke, it seemed like she just came home.

It is not othering someone to describe them as what they are. And it is idiotic to say so. It is also idiotic to say a girl is missing, when the missing person very clearly looks like a teenage male.

You genuinely think that if your child was missing, you’d want them described as a missing girl if they look like a teenage boy?

InconvenientlyMaterial · 06/02/2026 16:52

Fulmine · 06/02/2026 16:48

Because it is othering her. Clearly, despite Mumsnetters' most dire prognostications, the description of her as a girl has not prevented her from being found, so calling her a trans girl would have served no purpose whatsoever apart from putting up a great big signal to attract homophobes.

Could you explain a bit more about what you meant by "othering"?

I'd like to understand your thinking because it's so surprising to me

lastonekindling · 06/02/2026 17:21

DramaAndBullshit · 06/02/2026 16:28

This is pretty obviously a boy, and no one would recognise them as a girl from the description.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsliverpool/call-999-if-you-see-this-missing-schoolgirl/ar-AA1Vzv6S

I don’t think that is obviously a boy from the photo or description.

FlashingFairyLight · 06/02/2026 17:44

Fulmine · 06/02/2026 16:48

Because it is othering her. Clearly, despite Mumsnetters' most dire prognostications, the description of her as a girl has not prevented her from being found, so calling her a trans girl would have served no purpose whatsoever apart from putting up a great big signal to attract homophobes.

You'd seriously rather your child was referred to by chosen pronouns and not identified, than 'othered' and home safe?

Religious vibes.

Megifer · 06/02/2026 17:51

Id be looking for a girl.

The picture is clearly of a boy (I knew it was a picture of a boy before I read what the background was)

So yes just going off the written description, id walk straight past that kid in the street.

onlytherain · 06/02/2026 17:54

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 15:43

I'd be looking for a child who matched that description.

Well, you would not be the one finding this boy then.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/02/2026 17:58

lastonekindling · 06/02/2026 17:21

I don’t think that is obviously a boy from the photo or description.

yeah right 🙄

Catiette · 06/02/2026 18:01

Fulmine · 06/02/2026 16:48

Because it is othering her. Clearly, despite Mumsnetters' most dire prognostications, the description of her as a girl has not prevented her from being found, so calling her a trans girl would have served no purpose whatsoever apart from putting up a great big signal to attract homophobes.

My neighbour left her door unlocked all day yesterday. Despite the most dire prognostications, the unlocked door didn't lead to her being burgled, so locking it clearly would have served no purpose whatsoever.

(And the neighbours who warned her about the risks of leaving the door unlocked were very clearly just indulging an irrational dislike of her. In fact, locking her door in future will just attract further smug opprobrium from them.)

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 06/02/2026 18:06

Chersfrozenface · 06/02/2026 16:17

Given that schools are on record as "socially transitioning" pupils without telling their parents, yes, it probably is.

I think you mean "respecting the child's identity".

Schools don't transition kids. They just respect & protect them.

I'm glad this kid was found. But what you all don't seem to realise is that a huge percentage of under-18s are gender non-conforming, whether or not they're trans. It's often difficult to tell a trans boy from a gnc boy.

This is why pronouns are so useful, and why so many gnc people state their pronouns: mistakes are common.

Trans kids are like any others - except that they live with a far greater risk of sexual violence.

They are told that sexual touching "doesn't count". Trans girls and boys have been so dehumanised by transphobia that violent adults and kids feel encouraged to do what they like to them.

Trans kids are also more likely to go missing, because of abusive parents, fear of coming out to unaware parents, and extreme bullying.

Yet they remain trans. It's almost like living as themselves is so deeply healing, nothing can alter that, huh.

KilkennyCats · 06/02/2026 18:12

This is why pronouns are so useful, and why so many gnc people state their pronouns: mistakes are common.
Don’t understand this - if stating pronouns gives you no indication as to what sex a person is, what’s the point? What’s “useful” to anyone?

LattePatty · 06/02/2026 18:13

lastonekindling · 06/02/2026 17:21

I don’t think that is obviously a boy from the photo or description.

Really? I’d have expected a girl (female) from the description and I think the photo is very clearly a boy (male). Males with longish hair still look male. My teenage son had long hair for a couple of years and it was very obvious he was the boy he is.

Dollymylove · 06/02/2026 18:15

Keiron Glover. A quick Google will show a picture of "her" now and a picture taken a couple of years ago in a different story, aof "him"
They look like ine and the same person

onepostwonder · 06/02/2026 18:18

WallaceinAnderland · 06/02/2026 15:26

Liverpool Echo
Call 999 if you see this missing schoolgirl
She was last seen wearing her school uniform

Merseyside Police is appealing for the public's help in finding a teenager who vanished on Monday morning. Schoolgirl Emi Glover-Wade, 15, was last seen on Monday (January 2) morning and police say extensive enquiries are ongoing to find her.

Emi, from St Helens, was last seen wearing a school uniform, including a black blazer and grey jumper. She was also wearing a Linkin Park T-shirt, dark trousers and black Converse trainers with rainbow laces, police said.

The force described her as being around 5ft 3in tall, a slim build, with shoulder length hair and wears glasses for reading. Emi is understood to have links to Glasgow and Inverness.

If you see Emi call 999 immediately so police can make sure she’s safe and well.

I hope this child has the support they clearly need.

PolarGear · 06/02/2026 18:22

What's really sad here is that the parents posts clearly refer to their son and as male. They clearly also indicate the sort of sadness and compassion and worry we would all feel if our child was missing.

The commenters seem to be so desperate to virtue signal that they are insistent that the parents are wrong and that this child IS a girl and has to be referred to as such. The parents are the ones being othered here.

(FWIW the mention of this child being a 'train and transport enthusiast' makes me think that there may be ND at play too.)

theilltemperedamateur · 06/02/2026 18:30

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 06/02/2026 18:06

I think you mean "respecting the child's identity".

Schools don't transition kids. They just respect & protect them.

I'm glad this kid was found. But what you all don't seem to realise is that a huge percentage of under-18s are gender non-conforming, whether or not they're trans. It's often difficult to tell a trans boy from a gnc boy.

This is why pronouns are so useful, and why so many gnc people state their pronouns: mistakes are common.

Trans kids are like any others - except that they live with a far greater risk of sexual violence.

They are told that sexual touching "doesn't count". Trans girls and boys have been so dehumanised by transphobia that violent adults and kids feel encouraged to do what they like to them.

Trans kids are also more likely to go missing, because of abusive parents, fear of coming out to unaware parents, and extreme bullying.

Yet they remain trans. It's almost like living as themselves is so deeply healing, nothing can alter that, huh.

It's often difficult to tell a trans boy from a gnc boy.

Why? Trans boys are girls who dress as boys. GNC boys are boys who dress (somewhat) like girls. They're the opposite of each other in two different ways, so should be very easy to tell apart.

Or did you mean trans girls are hard to distinguish from GNC boys, which I agree with. But all the more reason to tell the public to look out for a boy in that case, as well as describing his attire.

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 18:40

Why the hell are you posting pictures of a child to prove a point.

WhereYouLeftIt · 06/02/2026 18:43

SargeMarge · 06/02/2026 16:43

How is it anti trans to say that a trans girl should be described as a trans girl? That’s what this child is. So why not say that?

I would then be looking for a male bodied child, but would know to address them as she.

I understand a lot of people on mumsnet and real life wouldn’t do that, and don’t believe in trans people etc but most of us just want an accurate description so we know what the hell we’re looking for.

“Missing transgirl Emi, also known as Kieran, wearing school uniform and converse with rainbow laces and has shoulder length hair and glasses.”

Then I would know what I’m looking for, and it isn’t offensive or transphobic or whatever else you want to call it.

Why do so many trans people want to hide from the fact they are trans and the world has eyes and can see if, so when you’re looking for a missing person, you need to give a description that matches what people actually see.

Also, what if the child didn't want to be found? Nothing easier for a transgirl than to 'disguise' themselves as boy. So I'd also say that if the police really wanted this child found, then they should have said transgirl not girl.

WallaceinAnderland · 06/02/2026 19:55

I know I shouldn't be but I am astounded that the lack of correct description for this child could have meant that they were never found. It's safeguarding 101 surely?

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 06/02/2026 20:03

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 18:40

Why the hell are you posting pictures of a child to prove a point.

Wind your neck in, his picture is all over the place because he'd gone missing.

This stupidity has got to stop.

It was a waste of time putting out an alert for him because the description calling him a girl was misinformation. It's good that he returned home on his own because it's unlikely anyone who had read the alert would have know he was the missing child if they had encountered him.

There such a thing as crying wolf, if there are many more of these alerts that contain false information, then people will switch off to them and they will be rendered useless and that could end up being the difference between life or death for a missing child.

He is not a girl he is a boy, and those of you that can't deal with that need to get some fucking help.

This stupidity has got to stop.

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The photo has been all over social media in a bid to locate the child…
Really, save your ire for where it’s warranted, this isn’t it.

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 20:25

KilkennyCats · 06/02/2026 20:21

The photo has been all over social media in a bid to locate the child…
Really, save your ire for where it’s warranted, this isn’t it.

The photo wasn't posted on SM so people could debate who looks like a girl or boy though.

The photo was posted to find them.

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