Rape Gang Enquiry First Public Hearing

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I am not posting this to re-start the discussion about motives, suitability etc., of this venture.

But have seen notices of this first "public" hearing and clips of speechs.

But just cant find where it was held, who took part, etc., etc..

If any one has a link please do share!

The Rape Gang Inquiry @rapeganginquiry

Our official inquiry hearings will start on February 2nd and cover the following topics:
Parents and carers.
Pregnancy/abortion/born of rape.
Whistleblowers.
Policing and justice.
Social care.
NHS/mental health/sexual health.
Education.
Demographics.
Media/social media
Politics.

https://x.com/rapeganginquiry/highlights

Some video links here https://x.com/officialsammyuk

The fact that this has been used for political point scoring (what issues aren't? ) does not mean the inquiry “has no value”. How arrogant. The reason it’s been like an open goal for the right wing is because the left and centre right have failed these thousands of girls so dramatically.

It would be nice if people stopped using this as an opportunity to accuse people of political point scoring. The focus should be entirely on the fact that there was a massive institutional failure here and what we do do correct it, hold people to account in whatever way that needs to be done, whether they were abusers or enablers and to make sure the police are actually doing their job today. This is a grotesque injustice and every rapists needs to be found. Every police officer, every social worker, every doctor, every politician who knew and did nothing or worse helped needs to be shitting themselves. Bring on the private prosecutions.

We also just need to build more prisons tbf. We’ve basically legalised holding CSA, we need to make more space for all the perverts.

I’m a woman and I’m not boycotting x, frankly the behaviour of some womens groups recently has hardly covered them in glory (bit of light anti-semitism and rape denial anyone…)

Absolutely this.

Never understood this attitude, who cares who’s raising it, it’s simple, has a crime been committed? Yes or no? It’s as simple as that. Who gives a shit who’s raising it. If we want to be civilised thats what we have to do, this tribal attitude of “my group could be harmed of I tackle child rape therefore I’m going to try to ignore it” just leads to degeneracy.

I would also point out that women who withdrew from the government’s enquiry because they felt it was set up to produce a particular set of results and dictated how/what they could speak about were happy to engage in this, presumably because this felt to them to allow them a more authentic voice. I assume they would have done the same with this process if they didn’t have confidence in it.

Which really fucking says something about our government doesn’t it.

It also makes the problem they are complaining about worse. People aren’t stupid. They can see there’s been a cover up by the people in charge, just like with Epstein. Continuing to avoid it looks terrible.

Indeed.

I think the main thing is that the information from the enquiry should be available somewhere. I don't have an X account, but if I was a politician or a journalist or anyone else who saw a chance of helping those women get justice and helping to stop it happening again, I would get one.

Most of them do have one, because they want to know what’s being said about them/their party.

I imagine reports and transcripts will be produced. It’s incredibly expensive to do this. I think given the circumstances around this (they had some whistleblowers as well) being very careful in the release of information is important. Some people will want anonymity and it’s worth taking time to make sure anyone who engages in this is confident that their personal information is used in a way that aligns with their wishes.

I sometimes have mixed feelings about Ruoert Lowe as a brown person, but here he’s doing the lords work as far as I’m concerned. If satan himself were leading this enquiry I would support it, this is why I don’t understand this fretting about politics, this is justice imo, if you care more about weaponisation than crimes committed against children (anyone who’s read anything about what was said in the courts about grooming gangs will understand who utterly depraved these men were, they tortured these children) then you really don’t actually care about victims of sexual violence. I have massive amounts of respect for Lowe here and every single person who’s stepped forward to contribute to this. I feel utterly disgusted with our institutions though.

He posts on Facebook. I think the reason it’s not fully public is that there are likely to be prosecutions from it going forward. He’s shared some stuff and it’s utterly harrowing.

Girls from the UK trafficked abroad by Pakistani grooming gangs (to Pakistan). Some got away and have told their stories. Lowe said 'how many didn't get away?' which IMO is a very good question. He's written to the Home Secretary to take action. Given how complicit the police have been, I can't see it happening.

I'm still honestly shocked by how little the media is covering this in this country, though it is being covered abroad. It's like some kind of omerta. It's weird when the media will otherwise report on celebrity crap no-one cares about and are positively going mental over the Epstein files - but the facts being released here are more harrowing (I know, but it's true) and absolutely relevant to so much of life in the UK: trust in the police, the law, the Labour party.

Yes I heard it was being covered in the Indian press (possibly from you).

Lot of inaccuracies in this news report but apparently John Cleese has spoken out on X and asked why the BBC isn't covering this issue clearly in the public interest - testimony from rape gang survivors. Again, a good question.

'BBC is disgraceful!' John Cleese tears apart broadcaster in rape gang row | Celebrity News | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk

Here you go.

I'd recommend watching to the end as the journalist at the end makes a good point about how Mahmood talked about the statutory inquiry and has essentially batted Lowe's request for action away, but how that has not yet 'got off the ground' nor heard any testimony from families or survivors. Which is a really, really, really good point. How long can they just delay and promise to do something but then not actually do anything. I suspect the plan is to fob us all off forever.

Why the hell can't you see this sort of reporting on the BBC? Includes some House of Commons footage.

Well done John!

I share your concern.

The hearings have now finished so we're waiting for the reports.
Meanwhile Fioan's story is available

https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/grooming-gangs-fionas-story?r=5a1v0r&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

Also there are questions to be answered about the destruction of Court records.
Jean Hatchett shares question in parliament.
The destruction of court records - which would need to be preserved for any chance of an effective grooming gang inquiry - is not in any way assured.

Who is telling the truth here? This is so serious. This is the UK govt version of the Epstein Files. The corruption goes deep into many state institutions including police and social services and we should trust absolutely nothing. We must not let those in power destroy any records and plead “mistake” later.

x.com/i/status/2021110002144993534

Article today in the Times.

Confronted by the full horror of the rape gangs, you would expect ministers to do everything in their power to make the courts more
transparent, not less. The more we know about the rape gangs, the more we can join the dots, and the more of these evil criminals we can arrest and punish.

But that is not what the government is doing. Keir Starmer did everything he could to avoid holding a national inquiry. He made sure our proposal to publish judges’ sentencing remarks was voted down. And now David Lammy, the justice secretary, has ordered the deletion of court archives used by journalists, campaigners and survivors to shine a light on the darkest crimes imaginable.

What we do now know about this appalling scandal emerged only thanks to the bravery of the survivors who have told their stories and the indefatigability of journalists and campaigners who exposed the truth and told the country. But it has taken years for the facts to come out. We still do not have the whole truth, and these crimes continue to happen. We need transparency, and part of that transparency is Courtsdesk — a searchable database of court listings and registers, which provides vital details about criminal cases.
www.thetimes.com/article/8986c2ed-f6c4-410a-82e4-1d7e4b54a8f7?shareToken=d8f4ec856076eb04b8a4d923d20945de

Truly harrowing to read (there is a transcript)

This sounds extremely concerning. The government is supposedly committed to this national inquiry.

Is it just the BBC? That's the first reference I've seen to the Inquiry on any of the mainstream media.

Are they though? The survivors have no faith in what they wanted to do before. I think personally they're hoping they can endlessly kick the can down the road. Deeds not words.

As a PP said it speaks volumes that survivors would speak to Lowe's enquiry but walked out on the Government one.

Some MPs have attended the Rape Gang Inquiry, good for them. So the media are even worse than our elected representatives here and specifically the BBC which is supposed to be a public broadcaster and supposed to report in the public interest.

And let's be clear, this is not the UK's Epstein scandal, it's far, far worse and on a far bigger scale. This is not to diminish the crimes of Epstein which were harrowing and terrible.

So why the BBC is endlessly talking about Epstein but not this is a good question. Although I will point out that I hardly think they're victim focused in the way they discuss Epstein. I personally have heard two male reporters gossiping about the political scandal as if it was awfully fun japes (they were those types) to see what would happen next to Mandy and Andy. With no thought to the victims of these abhorrent men.

Yes I don’t think they are either but I didn’t know about these court records.