Women’s Rights Network imploding

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WTF is going on? There are letters circulating with members alleging bullying, and anyone who asks a question is suspended and comments deleted. The leader calling everyone to urgent meetings with bizarre messaging: ‘there is no letter, and if there is it’s full of lies, and you can’t see the letter just trust us, and ooh look, something shiny!’ Should I cut my losses, cancel my standing order and just follow Let Women Speak?

All this safety and vetting seems ott. It’s 2026 , we’ve moved far beyond the dark days of 2015-2021. There is no need for extreme secrecy anymore. We have the Supreme Court ruling. We have Maya’s case. We have the Cass Report. WRN is a legitimate organisation and Heather was right to ask members to relax their vetting procedures.

I’d say women’s safety is paramount, and would fully understand groups who wish to maintain strong vetting procedures.

Some women are in jobs and situations where they have to be discreet so I disagree that security should be relaxed. There have been enough issues where women’s groups have been infiltrated, a couple of quite serious incidents, so security and trust is vital.
We still have a government which is in the thrall of TRAs and the government is still sitting on the EHRC guidance.
In Scotland the government there were just in court last week attempting to keep men in women’s prisons, so we are far from resolving the big issues regarding women’s rights. Remember the women in prisons were the canaries in the mine, getting delusional men into women’s prisons was a tactic to get delusional men into all women’s single sex spaces.

Bit surprised to see anyone say this. Women are STILL being doxxed and threatened and if a local group want properly to vet new nearby members, why would anyone stop them? ESP when security measures (spurious) have been stated in this latest mess.

I’ve just remembered that the other reason that I had early concerns about the WRN was due to the involvement of the McDonnels, she was the wife of a prominent contender for Twitter “reasonable transexual”. I don’t know what happened to them as we were mutual blocks.

Yes, I think we've almost all felt blindsided. Hats off to the leaders in Bucks for taking the time and care to expose these issues. I hope the various ejected regions can come together and establish a genuine gras roots organisation.

the most dangerous time for a woman is when she leaves an abusive relationship; I know of women who are more worried now than a few years ago of being outed or doxxed etc. the increase of numbers of women in these groups and networks increases the risk of leaks and doxxing, or basic social exclusion, silent dropping of work etc, even with all the safeguards.

I felt blindsided about being thrown out of the WRN Scotland group last year, it was upsetting at the time, but thankfully I hadn't donated to the Mongo account or anything, so I didn't lose any money. One of the coordinators who vetted me was also part of the group set up after they forced the regional groups on everyone so it made me realise that like Bucks, not all coordinator's were in line with the leaders.

Someone was reporting back to the leaders in the unofficial chat as well, and I don't think it was ever discovered who it was, and I know some women were upset that their data had been shared without consent (which is what the leaders accused them of). Like I said, I didn't contribute and hadn't checked the chat for ages and when it all blew up happened to check signal and saw I was no longer in the WRN regional group or any of their groups! It's made me wary of joining any groups now tbh, and as I said, for personal reasons I don't really take part in campaigning now, I've got enough going on in my life.

That was an “ interesting “ situation wasn’t it ? Conflict of interests I would say as the Mrs was a co-ordinator of WRN in their region

It felt like they were ingratiating themselves in order to infiltrate the movement. I recall she also, unsolicited, sent Jane Clare Jones dolls she’d made of Prince with outfits and wardrobe.

Yes, and no doubt some of them will be trans widows.

Most of these posts are from before I was aware of this discussion. This is a particularly good observation.

All this safety and vetting seems ott. It’s 2026 , we’ve moved far beyond the dark days of 2015-2021. There is no need for extreme secrecy anymore. We have the Supreme Court ruling. We have Maya’s case. We have the Cass Report. WRN is a legitimate organisation and Heather was right to ask members to relax their vetting procedures.

None of this (the Supreme Court ruling, the Forstater judgement, Cass Review) is relevant to the continuing need to guard against infiltration by people, men but mostly other women, who only want in because they wish to inflict harm on individual members and/or your organisation or just seek to disrupt campaigning activities.

Whether or not WRN is a "legitimate organisation" is also irrelevant.

Either your blind loyalty to HB has turned you into a fool and a security risk or you always were a fool and a security risk but you managed to pass vetting, which can never be 100% effective but should strive to be.

I don’t understand why, if women don’t want to be referred to as “head girls”, they continue to act like head girls.

Oh it’s all sorted now, is it? Tell that to Sandie Peggie. Or Allison Bailey. Let’s just chill and not be too bothered if Fred infiltrates a meeting, and takes photos of women, and post them online? Why don’t you stick with “everything Heather does is totally right”, I will stick with an organisation that takes security seriously.

Yes THIS. When women within the
organisation are saying they are “terrified to post for fear of a witch hunt” head girls seems like a fairly tame description.

Telling the plebs to change their terminology is tackling the issue from the wrong angle.

Because Heather said so

The leader in charge of Scotland goes around with a posse all wearing T Shirts with her face on them. Bit cultish if you ask me. I wonder if Heather is aware of the famous Scottish play...

I have often wondered about her position on the grooming gangs given her field of expertise. During my time in WRNs Scottish WRN members voiced interest in campaigning for Scottish grooming gang enquiry to address potential ongoing or unaddressed risks to vulnerable children. The leader consistently stated that she doesn’t support reopening such enquiries, preferring instead to focus on implementing the recommendations from existing reports.
but what about the Scottish kids..the grooming gangs didn’t stop at the border!

Why the halo and near-canonization of their leader? If those earlier reports are accurate, their supreme leader doesn't appear to have shown genuine kindness or a commitment to protecting all women—only a select group of 'chosen ones' and a handful of favored causes. This seems sharply at odds with the compassionate, inclusive image they promote publicly. The comments on here raise serious concerns about the group's inner workings, including potential financial mismanagement and overall operations. This kind of setup warrants thorough investigation. Anyone know how?

Posting that photo was completely out of order. Straight out of the TRA playbook FFS

I didn't see the photo but I did notice this interesting spelling: "handful of favored causes".

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