Baroness Chakrabarti in the HoL - biological sex and police data

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Here is a clip of Baroness Chakrabarti speaking in the House of Lords about the impossibility of police being able to establish someone's biological sex because it would be too intrusive. She doesn't seem to consider that the best way to solve this problem is not to allow people to change their official records in the first place.

She makes a passing reference to VAWG but doesn't really seem to consider the impact on women and girls. She is more concerned about people who she says have "changed sex". She also said she has read some concerning things about women with mastectomies being challenged in changing rooms, suggesting this is happening up and down the country, rather than being a suspiciously-timed allegation from Jolyon Maugham's wife.

I know people have lost their minds over this issue, but it still floors me how intelligent women can come out with this stuff. Have she ever stopped to think critically about any of this? Or are people so ensconced in their echo chambers that that they are no longer able to do this?

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Sorry to be pedantic, but Stefan Kisko’s case didn’t involve DNA at all - Lesley Moleseed was murdered well before the advent of DNA profiling. Kisko was eventually exonerated when it was admitted at appeal that he was aspermic and the seminal fluid recovered from Lesley’s body contained sperm. It was a horrendous miscarriage of justice and had a big impact on the introduction of disclosure rules, but nothing to do with DNA.
Ronald Castree (who actually did murder Lesley Moleseed) was eventually caught by a routine DNA swab following arrest (of the type the esteemed Baroness claims to be unaware).
Don’t want to derail the thread, but I think it’s important to keep our arguments accurate, so the other side have less to pick at.

I would have thought that the police tend to ask a lot of questions that make people feel uncomfortable. If you are used to hiding your sex then yes it quite possibly will be, but that’s the problem with having to face reality.

Thanks! You're quite right, I'd muddled the grounds for Stefan Kisko's release with the means of ultimately identifying Castree as the murderer.

She made a chump of herself by covering up the antisemitism in the Labour Party. Nobody will ever believe her again.

Good thing that most of that anti semitism is now siphoned off to YP.
The party of landlords and anti landlords, batshit insane TRAs, and people who genuinely think Corbyn is a Zionist.

Yes good indeed. When I was still a member of the Labour Party, I attended the 2019 Conference which seemed more like some kind of creepy cult than a political party.

"creepy cult" could certainly be applied to Polanski's lot, he sees the Scottish Greens as a template not a warning.

Haha i left about then, but can quite imagine!

"Ooh Jeremy Cobyn"

He went to speak at DDs University. She could not understand why. His following there was huge. Surely he should be focusing on the floaters.

Amongst other things messages were appearing of her course student WhatsApp saying that Muslim students were not good Muslims if they did not vote Corbyn. I understand that the Greens are now chasing this vote.

I joined the party and voted in JC but i started to think it was a mistake because of the ooh Jeremy Corbyn and culty stuff. Also he was rubbish in PMQs, and I had really hoped he would hold the government to account. Mea Culpa for voting him in, anyway 😩

And then obvs there was the trans issue which is why I left.

Whenever Corbyn did PMQs I had in mind "I'd like to read first a letter from Mrs Trellis of North Wales ..."

I remember the first time, I thought, well, this is novel.
And by the third time, I was squirming away thinking: not quite what Lenin envisaged, Comrade.

It was like a 50s Soviet TV show "Sitting Around The Fire With Comrade Lenin".
In which various heroes of the revolution would have their problems under the Czar with leaky rooves, or not enough food etc read out, and an actor playing Ilyich would state how the revolution would solve all these.

Lol. Yes.
Armando Iannucci should do a follow on to The Death of Stalin based on Corbyn. and meetings of the Labour Party NEC around that time.😀

Looking forwards to the episode where the Labour Party under his leadership advertised for a Senior Officer to help run the Women's Committee, only open to female candidates, and it was offered to a man "who IDd as a woman on certain days of the week, when his full beard felt soft and feminine".
When he revealed it was a practical joke, Corbyn, those that approved him, the woke party, were all saps, he was sacked, and I believe thrown out of the party.
Not for impersonating/damaging women, but for bringing the party into disrepute.
Would make such a great episode.

That is just spot on, thank you!