Cambridge student barred from pub over views on gender

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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/cambridge-student-banned-pub-transgender-mb5w3fs8q?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqeHPQktlmmTuRearWHlXoMg7dh75qqdhU-8NQQOr89dZYfzcySumdRMR79MRsw%3D&gaa_ts=697772ea&gaa_sig=P6Zz80dv7HXan5-cMOqBQdqexGQPP710GBr5H7R0NjqhdXHjOETcAFpmuRsasbaHlrOsbRPNwQ50lFqFckZneg%3D%3D

Archive link here - https://archive.ph/sGKls

I know there are have been a few similar issues with pubs but I can’t remember the outcomes of the top of my head. Can anyone remind me?

Good for her. I feel bad for women like her, who take on so much. I'd assume that the pub are using the usual tactic of re-writing history to make out that she's a horrible person, which will be like another kick in the teeth for her.

Good for. One to watch.
Helen Joyce is quoted;
Helen Joyce, director of advocacy at the sex-based rights charity Sex Matters, said that 'Sewell’s legal action could have implications for service providers across the country: “Trans activist groups’ longstanding misrepresentation of the law has led to the widespread misconception that it is legal for service providers to discriminate against people with gender-critical beliefs.'

“Thea’s case will be an important test for upholding the rights of people who reject gender ideology. It should ring alarm bells for pub owners, shopkeepers and anyone else who provides services to the public that it is not lawful to behave in this bigoted manner towards people who hold perfectly ordinary, factual beliefs.”

Not even in Cambridge. Assume there is a TRA behind the bar who was instrumental, as so many of these cases involve. Glad she is challenging, these young women are so brave.

Connie Shaw on X:

This is not the first time Thea has been kicked out of a pub for holding gender critical views. On the day of my graduation, Thea, myself, family and friends were kicked out of a pub in Leeds for the very same reason.

Again, with the help of @SexMattersOrg we sent a letter before claim and received an apology and £1.6k in compensation.

£1.6k in compensation

Wow!
I know it shouldn't have happened in the first place and I'm not minimising the impact on these brave young women, but...wow!
Being bigoted against GC views could get expensive!

Helen Webberley is a really, really unpleasant person. This is what she has said on X about it.

I feel for Thea and all the other brave women as being ostracised like this is so shit.

I think Helen Webberley is the same type of antagonist as Katie Hopkins. She enjoys ridiculing and belittling people, promoting extreme views which can only be of interest to a small number of people, and gaining attention for herself via the media.
Thea Sewell is a brave young woman, and I admire her actions and courage.

Yes she is. And stupid too. Because you can't get banned from university for having sex realist views.

Operation Let Them Speak strikes again!🙄

What a brave young woman+ her two friends in Cambridge.

It helps that there are some media outlets that will cover stories like this in an objective manner. Or indeed, at all. I hope the publicity makes Thea and her friends feel they are not alone, and it also gets the message out that you discriminate against GC women [or men], and it'll cost ya.

And there was me thinking it was only Starmer and other Labour MPs being banned from pubs.

I think it was Press for Change that had a strategy of trans people suing places for not letting them use the toilets of the opposite sex asking for an amount of compensation that was less than the legal costs for any defence. Venues would then start letting people use wrong sex toilets rather than risk compensation.

Glad to see the TRA strategy being put to good use by GC women. They're in a better position than the TRAs as the law is on their side

Just to add information, which may be of interest, about the society that Thea and her friends started (re a post a few days back):

We had a stall at the Societies Fair in the Cambridge University Students' Union earlier this week. We received over 30 sign-ups. We also displayed a pinboard posing a question to passers-by: 'What does "womanhood" mean to you?' Take a look at how they responded:

De Beauvoir being misunderstood again there, I see. By a Cambridge student. 🙄

I hope this situation goes as smoothly for her and more service providers will start reflecting on whether it’s good business sense in this day and age to ban women for being sane.

Sounds like a place that needs to implement some staff re-training. 😁

I hope her legal action gets results, and good on her for standing up to the zombie apocalypse.

Helen Webbeley has been reduced to engagement farming on social media ever since her income stream from sterilising kids dried up

#sadtimes

It is absolutely unfathomable how universities can survive if students simply cannot listen to, counter and refute anything they don't agree with.

Some days i think we are approaching the end of the batshit tunnel.
Then i remember who is in government and i worry the meaning of the word sex, in law, is going to be changed to gender.

At that point i suggest we set up a surrogacy agency with only transwomen prepared to carry the babies.

Grifters gonna grift...

This is the archive link for those who cant acess the Times article
https://archive.is/FlA2J

I am surprised but pleased to hear that some women were able to sucessfully challenge another pub that did something similar.

On previous threads about instances like this, quite a few have commented that a pub landlord/lady has the absolute right to say who they will serve and who they will not.

Not wanting to derail this thread about this case but did the legal challenge against a pub in Belfast ever get to court? And if so what was the outcome. Or point me in the direction of the thread about this.

Edited to say I have found it! https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5450868-graham-linehan-women-wont-wheest-terfed-out-of-robinsons-bar-belfast

Case is supposed to be in May this year

Thanks.

Hopefully the sucessful court case will work in their favour.

And this case if it too goes to court.

Does anyone know the name of the pub in Leeds?

The Fenton I believe, just down the road from the uni.

@ItsCoolForCats thank you.