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The Bluestocking Women’s Pub: definitely full of ludicrous halfwits who refuse to get a grip (with unionised gerbils)

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MyrtleLion · 26/01/2026 09:40

Welcome to The Bluestocking: convivial by design, opinionated in the best way, generously stocked with excellent food and drink that complies with whatever it’s meant to comply with, and any calories, gluten or alcohol are entirely virtual.

Staffed by impeccably trained, unfailingly polite gerbils who run a tight bar with plenty of enthusiasm and good intentions. Quick with the drinks, but terrible spillers spellers and liable to turn an idle thought on existential existence into a full blown musical with Busby Berkeley routines. You have been warned.

All women welcome, just in case that isn't obvious. Men can go to The Staunch Ally round the corner.

Previous thread here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5477133-the-bluestocking-your-local-womens-pub-warm-friendly-and-not-at-all-unusual-in-any-way

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WearyAuldWumman · 01/02/2026 19:31

inkymoose · 01/02/2026 15:07

I've never taken caffeine tablets and I certainly don't intend to start after reading your post! I'm fairly cautious with the real stuff actually and have trained myself to enjoy decaf. After a fashion.

Made me laugh out loud that imaginary Stalin's Georgianness made it difficult to understand his shouted Russian. Kudos to you for learning Russian, goodness gracious!

I recall our professor telling us that Stalin had difficulty pronouncing certain sounds in Russian. The result was that when the Soviets made a biopic, they found themselves rewriting dialogue so that (for example) the actor playing him didn't have to copy Stalin's speech pattern.

I've seen one Russian website claiming that his spoken Russian was excellent, but I'm inclined to believe my professor and lecturers.

More or less irrelevant aside: when I was 20, Glasgow Uni sent 4 of their students on a one month Russian course at the Kuban' State University in Krasnodar.

One day, the only other Scottish girl and I met up with one of the Russian girls and hired a paddle boat. I kid you not, we were chased by two Georgian men in a rowing boat...They'd obviously spotted us furriners, courtesy of our milk-white Scottish complexion.

We eventually got away from them, but they were shouting (in English): "We are Georgians! The greatest man who ever lived was Stalin!"

inkymoose · 01/02/2026 19:39

WearyAuldWumman · 01/02/2026 19:31

I recall our professor telling us that Stalin had difficulty pronouncing certain sounds in Russian. The result was that when the Soviets made a biopic, they found themselves rewriting dialogue so that (for example) the actor playing him didn't have to copy Stalin's speech pattern.

I've seen one Russian website claiming that his spoken Russian was excellent, but I'm inclined to believe my professor and lecturers.

More or less irrelevant aside: when I was 20, Glasgow Uni sent 4 of their students on a one month Russian course at the Kuban' State University in Krasnodar.

One day, the only other Scottish girl and I met up with one of the Russian girls and hired a paddle boat. I kid you not, we were chased by two Georgian men in a rowing boat...They'd obviously spotted us furriners, courtesy of our milk-white Scottish complexion.

We eventually got away from them, but they were shouting (in English): "We are Georgians! The greatest man who ever lived was Stalin!"

😱

SionnachRuadh · 01/02/2026 19:41

That even sounds like a Russian joke, but I believe it. Russians like to stereotype Georgians having enormous appetites for food, drink and sex, not always in that order.

I remember a Russian who'd been in the army saying that the Chechens get all the hype abroad, but they have a kind of Italian metrosexual thing going on where they hang around in barber shops taking selfies for Insta. The guys with a real reputation for being mad are the Buryats, who are proud descendants of Genghis Khan and won't ever let you forget it.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/02/2026 20:23

SionnachRuadh · 01/02/2026 19:41

That even sounds like a Russian joke, but I believe it. Russians like to stereotype Georgians having enormous appetites for food, drink and sex, not always in that order.

I remember a Russian who'd been in the army saying that the Chechens get all the hype abroad, but they have a kind of Italian metrosexual thing going on where they hang around in barber shops taking selfies for Insta. The guys with a real reputation for being mad are the Buryats, who are proud descendants of Genghis Khan and won't ever let you forget it.

The Russian girl with us told that she was scared of Georgians. I did find that - in spite of the official line of all Soviets being equal, many Russians were quite patronising towards other Soviet nationalities.)

On the other hand, some of the Glasgow Uni boys later had placements in Voronezh and there were many Georgian students there. One of the boys came back engaged to a Georgian girl. (Another lad came back married to a Russian girl. Only later did we find out that he'd left behind a Glaswegian fiancée.)

EdithStourton · 01/02/2026 20:30

We eventually got away from them, but they were shouting (in English): "We are Georgians! The greatest man who ever lived was Stalin!"
You had an... interesting time.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/02/2026 20:38

EdithStourton · 01/02/2026 20:30

We eventually got away from them, but they were shouting (in English): "We are Georgians! The greatest man who ever lived was Stalin!"
You had an... interesting time.

You have no idea...

MyrtleLion · 01/02/2026 22:49

PastaAllaNorma · 01/02/2026 15:52

My 24yo son has ADHD and has meds after a nearly 3 year wait. He finds caffeine makes him sleepy, which is apparently quite common for some people with ADHD - caffeine interacts differently and calms them.

I have done a bit in the garden, now having Earl Grey in my very expensive cup and saucer (I only own the one, but it is lovely) with a slice of the orange and almond cake I made yesterday.

I've never found that caffeine perks me up, but I do know that it stops me sleeping of I have too much (like 6 coffees) or drink it after 4pm.

Apparently the stimulus of the ADHD drugs is calming for sufferers.

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MyrtleLion · 01/02/2026 23:03

AsWithGlad · 01/02/2026 16:31

The better link keeps disappearing.

Here it is in full and not magic linked.
www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/baby-surprise-jacket

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That looks lovely. The cardigan is done but I had some accidental yarn overs that now look like moth holes and it probably isn't good enough to give to my friend. I'll post a picture tomorrow. I'm pleased I finished it as it's the first garment I completed that isn't a hat or scarf.

I'll try the BSJ. I bought some 4 ply wool but it's for Boily's socks. I thought I'd bought some white 4 ply but it was DK. I may have to buy more yarn... I have an ultrasound for my foot on Tuesday and I need to go to Hobbycraft to buy buttons for the cardigan so I'll pick some up then.

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MyrtleLion · 01/02/2026 23:06

AsWithGlad · 01/02/2026 16:36

People do similar, Fuzzy. Beetroot, lichens, woads…

One of my favourite methods is solar dyeing, perhaps because it’s a very lazy method. You put yarn or fabric plus water and onion skins in a Kilner jar, and leave it in a sunny window for 3 months. The results can be quite pretty.

I did this as a craft project a few years ago. It was amazing how the yarn took the dye!

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MyrtleLion · 01/02/2026 23:16

WearyAuldWumman · 01/02/2026 20:38

You have no idea...

I think we need a 😮 reaction.

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Britinme · 01/02/2026 23:48

The conversation about Georgians reminds me that on Friday in CT we went to a Georgian restaurant, which was excellent, if expensive. I had a lamb stew thing called Chakhani that was meltingly tender and very herby and tasty. We also had some cheese-stuffed bread with a Georgian cheese in it and we shared a honey cake with caramel sauce and walnuts between the layers. Gorgeous!

WearyAuldWumman · 01/02/2026 23:55

MyrtleLion · 01/02/2026 23:16

I think we need a 😮 reaction.

Life during the Cold War era could be surreal at times.

Krasnodar is the only place where I was aware of British students being blatantly followed at the same time as the better known Soviet cities were putting on their best face for foreign visitors.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/02/2026 23:56

Britinme · 01/02/2026 23:48

The conversation about Georgians reminds me that on Friday in CT we went to a Georgian restaurant, which was excellent, if expensive. I had a lamb stew thing called Chakhani that was meltingly tender and very herby and tasty. We also had some cheese-stuffed bread with a Georgian cheese in it and we shared a honey cake with caramel sauce and walnuts between the layers. Gorgeous!

Have you ever had Georgian champagne? It's lovely.

Britinme · 02/02/2026 00:00

No but I will if the opportunity arises :-)

WearyAuldWumman · 02/02/2026 00:11

I don't know whether they're allowed to call it 'champagne' in the west; in the Soviet Union, it was 'shampanskoye'.

AsWithGlad · 02/02/2026 00:29

MyrtleLion · 01/02/2026 23:03

That looks lovely. The cardigan is done but I had some accidental yarn overs that now look like moth holes and it probably isn't good enough to give to my friend. I'll post a picture tomorrow. I'm pleased I finished it as it's the first garment I completed that isn't a hat or scarf.

I'll try the BSJ. I bought some 4 ply wool but it's for Boily's socks. I thought I'd bought some white 4 ply but it was DK. I may have to buy more yarn... I have an ultrasound for my foot on Tuesday and I need to go to Hobbycraft to buy buttons for the cardigan so I'll pick some up then.

Do you want me to see if I can find the pattern for the BSJ? It used to be difficult to get (not available online) but it may be much easier now.

I've looked in the knitting section of the bookshelves but it's not there. It may be in the piles of knitting books, though. Not the front two, but maybe the back...

Why is it that having lots of yarn is thought to be a bad thing by some, but lots of books is a library?

AsWithGlad · 02/02/2026 00:31

@MyrtleLion you are good to make socks for our esteemed Boily. I have friends who knit socks all the time, but I've only ever knitted one sock in an adult size. When I'd finished it I thought, there, I've done that, I don't need to make any more.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/02/2026 00:39

AsWithGlad · 02/02/2026 00:31

@MyrtleLion you are good to make socks for our esteemed Boily. I have friends who knit socks all the time, but I've only ever knitted one sock in an adult size. When I'd finished it I thought, there, I've done that, I don't need to make any more.

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Er…

AsWithGlad · 02/02/2026 00:41

@MyrtleLion wrote: The cardigan is done but I had some accidental yarn overs that now look like moth holes and it probably isn't good enough to give to my friend.

Have you considered embroidering over the holes? It's quick. Use any yarn and whatever needle you're using to sew the cardigan up. Daisies or triangles in different colours can be a good way to start.

There's an example for garter stitch here, and daisies and stems .

AsWithGlad · 02/02/2026 00:42

ErrolTheDragon · 02/02/2026 00:39

Er…

It was useful for one foot when I had the other one in plaster. ♥

ErrolTheDragon · 02/02/2026 00:56

AsWithGlad · 02/02/2026 00:42

It was useful for one foot when I had the other one in plaster. ♥

Oh well in that case obviously perfect!

Britinme · 02/02/2026 02:59

It’s true - embroidery covers a multitude of mistakes.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/02/2026 03:04

Britinme · 02/02/2026 02:59

It’s true - embroidery covers a multitude of mistakes.

The first time that we visited the relatives in Eastern Europe, Mum thought that the men were all in some kind of club - they all had wee motifs embroidered on their shirts. Nope.

Their wives had embroidered over cigarette holes.

Britinme · 02/02/2026 03:15

Brilliant tactic - a lot cheaper than new shirts and more beautiful than darning.

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