could I ask for clarification please?

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Can anyone help me with this?
Is it true that the Supreme Court ruling clearly states the position on Single-Sex spaces i.e. being dependent on sex. But B Phillipson won't act on it because she is in conflict with the EHRC (they have clearly said that the legal case is watertight, she refutes that)?
So the only way forward is STILL by individual employment tribunals, who vary markedly in their response.
I follow this board, but would appreciate a sanity check on whether I am right on this, as it seems so crazy.

Yep.

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Two qualified heads of the ehrc have said it's water tight. Phillipson is know to have objections to anything "anti" trans.
That's the whole issue right there, it isn't anti trans it's just facts.

Phillipson is trying to kick it into the long grass rather than uphold the law.

thanks all.
I can't believe she's doing this, the optics are so poor

Isn't there some guidance for schools she's also been sitting on for even longer?

There's a petition

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/749761

Currently languishing with barely 1k signatures if you want to sign and share.

Yep you're completely right

its disgraceful

Yes you are right.

I accidentally directly linked the petition. I'm surprised it's still there, I didn't think we were allowed to do that. Jic MN notices and my post gets deleted (apologies btw MN) here's a link to the thread on the Petitions and Activism board

Parliamentary Petition: Approve and implement the EHRC guidance on meaning of sex in the Equality Act | Mumsnet https://share.google/P04rCqtfIkQxUGWIg

They are worse than the tories. When Boris Johnson broke the law it was his own reckless behaviour behind that and it was possible to argue that there was a lack of clarity around the legality of proroguing Parliament. In this case, the Labour government is taking a intentional position of refusing to uphold the law. It is happy to act illegally to sustain an ideology that is harmful to women.

I signed the petition, the page is also asking me if I want to send a email to my MP to let them know I have. As my MP is a Labour drone and very unlikely to do or say anything the party doesn't want him to, there's probably not much point. But wouldn't it be good if the petitions page notified every MP every time a constituent signed a petition, all of the MP's emails would crash every day. 😂

It is because the unions are keen to keep men in female spaces and the unions run the party so...

I think in some ways it is even worse that that.

She is saying the to implement the Supreme Court ruling would be discriminatory against trans identity.

So it isn't just not wanting to implement it, she is basically saying that to implement the ruling as stated, would be unfair.

ie as Labour has always done since they wrote the EA that put trans identity as the norm. ie having single sex was only to be an occassional exception and had to be proved to proportionate.

In other words, even though the ruling was about each protected characteristic having the right to have its characteristic protected, in the instance of women as a sex class Labour is saying women shouldn't have equality.

ie over 50% of the population should lose their rights to what is estimated to be around 10,000 (the number of GRCs issued to date).

The EA does not cover self identity.

Thanks cake, have signed. Is there anything this current government won’t do to prevent women having actual rights?

There's nothing wrong with it except she doesn't like it, because it would permit non consenting women to get undressed without men present to use them and enjoy it, and lesbian women to meet without men present to use and enjoy them.

Men Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. MRA Rulz.

That's it. That's all.

Tribunals seem to be following the SC ruling mostly, although with caveats as in the Peggie case. TRAs must get gratification making women go through the process and they need shamed out of their practices.

I have signed.

Signed
I'm getting absolutely sick and tired of all this kow-towing and procrastination

The EHRC guidance is only for service providers, not employers, so there is no justification at all for employers not to have enacted the FWS judgment already.

Phillipson is sitting on a number of pieces of statutory guidance that would benefit women and girls - she's more a human paperweight than a cabinet minister at this point 😞

Have signed the petition. I'm surprised there are so few signatures!

Signed them both. Sadly I can’t share, as a family member would block me.