Woman banned from Council gyms...guess why? Protest 10th Jan at 1 pm see post on pg.7

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Those who guessed 'because she objected to a man in the women's changing room', give yourselves a pat on the back

https://archive.ph/wLUBN

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/12/23/council-gym-trans-row/

I wonder how these passing assessments go. You can go in but not your friend - looks too much like a man? Can’t see it myself!

She was also accused of misgendering which contributed to the ban from
what I have read.

Apparently, pronouns are harmless.

It is absolute bollocks and not healthy for any one

She may have been nervous challenging him, he maybe immediately escalated it and she responded in kind. Easily done. I’ve responded to a client behaving very inappropriately before with somewhat aggressive behaviour due to fight (not flight or freeze, but reaction to a frightening situation).

All speculation, but he was in the wrong and probably still backed up by staff. I’d bet the situation would have been entirely different if a man had challenged a woman in the men’s. Sexism is as old as time and reflected in every aspect of transactivism.

He misgendered her, too. And when she objected to him calling her ‘cis’ he responded by calling her a man. But that’s OK. Why? Because she didn’t care about him calling her a man? Or because it was a member of the sacred caste mis-gendering her?

If Miranda is reading this, and would like support and whether it would help with more voices, please feel free to reach out. I am also in Southwark, also use Southwark Leisure centres and have challenged men in the women's changing rooms, so far successfully. They do seem to have a policy of who protests the loudest, but I have definitely seen them kick a mum out of the men's changing room where she went with her sons (rightly so, the boys were definitely of an age were they can change themselves).

Why was he not banned as well for his part in this scenario?

Do we know that he wasn't?

Not yet - but hopefully it will be confirmed soon.

Of course, he shouldn't have been in there in the first place and had Southwark council been more concerned with protecting the privacy, dignity and women he and the other men would have known to keep the fuck out. Women challenging any bloke intent on ignoring that rule would have immediately been supported by the staff who worked there - who in turn would have been empowered by the council to remove those males and ban them immediately.

So:

• there's an actual equality Law governing access to single sex changing rooms and sex is categorically defined as 'biological', but if a man breaks this law he is defended and protected;
• there's also a non-existent, unwritten 'law' that governs how women can complain about males in the ladies changing room which has no definition whatsoever, but when the woman complains she's considered to be at fault and punished?

Oh for the days before this madness when a woman could scream blue murder if a man refused to leave the ladies changing room and the police would arrive and automatically protect the woman by escorting the man away.

Hi, I'm a friend of Miranda's - a proud one! - and I've told her about this thread. She's going to create a username and come on at some point.

I've used the Castle leisure centre, including with Miranda at times. I've also used other Southwark leisure centres. I'm cancelling my membership.

Above and beyond the ridiculous case by case basis on which they allow 'passing' TiM into the female changing facilities, the leisure centre and Southwark Council have handled this poorly and haven't been clear about their policies.

I appreciate they cannot divulge information about how they've dealt with other individuals, but at the very least I would have hoped they would have made a public statement reassuring people that filming is completely banned in the toilets and changing rooms. I wish The Telegraph and GB News had pressed them on this particular point.

Thanks for that. Yes, I did tell staff they could check his footage to see that I never raised a fist at him. Ridiculous.
I started off very calm and polite. Things escalated when he said he belonged there more than I and started filming.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate all the support.
I feel the council is punishing me for not being ‘ladylike’ enough (ironically). I started very calmly and almost apologetically. But now? Not backing down.

Thank you.
yes. I started out extremely ‘apologetic’ and quiet. He challenged me, stating he had more right to be there than I. Then started filming me. Then said I raised a fist and that he was calling the cops.
so, yeah, it escalated.
The council said the incident went on too long.
but that is because the front desk staff didn’t know their policy and the manager wasn’t in yet as it was before 9am. They should have taken us both to a back room/s to get us out of lobby. Not my fault!

True.
I said, “I respect your right to call me a man, and it doesn’t bother me. Because I am not a man.”
nuff said.

Please message me or Google me and email me. Yes please! And thank you! I’m planning a protest, and would love to have more people involved. Thanks!

I can't begin to imagine what you're going through, but I wish you well in whatever you decide to do. Happy to help as needed, and it goes without saying that you have my complete support. No woman or girl should ever find herself in this situation - it's both terrifying and horrifying that men have this power and are supported by organisations and systems who should be standing up to them and showing them the door.

Am sorry you had to go through that @MirandainSouthwark. I imagine that in the moment and the days following it must have been incredibly stressful, and the whole scenario must have gone round and round in your head.
Sending support as once again, ideology collides with reality and a woman is brave enough to point it out. Thank you.

Well done @MirandainSouthwark 💪🏻

I am a late sixties bloke, married for over thirty five years to a wonderful woman and I am so sorry about what you have had to endure, it really is a total disgrace. If this had been my wife, experiencing this disgusting incident, then I would have been straight down the leisure centre, demanding to see the person in charge. I am a fully qualified fitness instructor and we have to do modules on safeguarding and health and safety. This is not acceptable in any way, because we are taught to ensure that everyone feels safe in a gym/leisure centre environment, which definitely includes excluding males out of all female safe spaces. Southwark need a short, sharp shock to make them realise that they are breaking the law, given the ruling of the Supreme Court.

https://www.ukactive.com/news/new-resources-launched-for-gyms-and-leisure-centres-to-continue-creating-safer-spaces-for-women-and-girls/

To be fair, we have to acknowledge that there are many women supporting this. It isn’t something only men have imposed on us.

Oh, please tell me more.
I was banned they told me because I called the man “he/him” and a man. And because the discussion went on too long and too publicly. The staff didn’t know the policy and didn’t move us into a back room. The manager wasn’t in yet and staff didn’t know what to do.
I honestly didn’t know the council’s policy is basically any man in a halter top, ladies swimsuit or pink shorts is apparently allowed in the female changing room.
Oh, and he had long hair, which the manager was particularly concerned about. As surely only ladies can have long hair??

Has the man also been banned? I'm assuming he was also participating in this discussion that went on too long and too publicly.

I'm sure Kimura will Brave&Stunningly be delighted to be able to scold you directly for your incorrect and unreasonable behaviour... <won't hold my breath>

Yes. I said I could have screamed, called the cops and pulled the fire alarm as it was an emergency. I think in retrospect I was fairly calm.

Thank you so much, sir. I do appreciate the support of everyone, and men also have an important voice in this issue.