Robin Ince quits working for the BBC over his support for men in dresses and terrorists

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Shame really he’s a nice guy, a huge bibliophile, met him a few times at book signings, the last live show of his I saw he did shoehorn in “and of course trans women are real women” or some such nonsense.

guessing the infinite monkey cage is cancelled now, that was in my top five podcasts.

can’t do a popular science show and think women can have a penis though. Wonder what Brian thinks?

the video of his love resignation , presumably at the end of a monkey cage recording, is here
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1plg02g/bbc_presenter_robert_ince_claims_he_has_been/

notably he doesn’t say how men in dresses are being treated badly. Everyone has a blind spot.

Maybe something to do with what was being said about him on Twitter, not legal threats to him as such. Honestly, that will teach me to believe the nutters on Trans Reddit 😆

https://bsky.app/profile/robinince.bsky.social/post/3m7y5v6ydsk2f

It's probably about ripxNutmeg's post:

ETA to take the text of the tweet out, so as not to get MN into trouble

With some screenshots attached:

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/2000249350640001212

The Good Law Project!

Maybe he can headline at that all star fundraiser Alongside Sugababes and Sophie Ellis Bextor

The Good Law Project!

What could possibly go wrong 😆

It's a purity test, a true 'trans' ally would so use the GLP if they needed a lawyer, if he does decide to sue and he uses someone else then he won't be a true believer, and they'll stone him. 😂

Oh dear. Still, I suppose that kind of sustained credulity accounts for the podcast he does with his confidently gormless son.

Is it essentially the first minute of Smashie and Nicey announcing their resignation before they're revealed as sacked

There's something very Pooterish about all this, isn't there - he sees himself as Nelson Mandela, the rest of us see him as Alan Partridge or Smashey and Nicey.

For me there is something fascinating about someone who weds themselves entirely to a Skeptic identity - atheist, anti-homoeopathy, anti-quack medicine, all the rest of it - and then decides to embrace, full on, the single most irrational, anti-scientific ideology of the 21st century, namely genderism. It suggests that the original commitment to sceptical thought was less about rationality and evidence and more about the identity that "skepticism" gives you: feeling cleverer than other people, showing off how clever you are, and mixing with other self-styled clever people, most of whom of course are male.

It's also funny because once you adopt gender ideology you have totally destroyed your own claim to be a rational, thinking human being. But I doubt Ince realises that.

I think deep down he probably does realise the glaring paradox. It's a sort of cognitive dissonance to take the 2 opposing beliefs and try to synchronise / synthesise them. It's probably why he walked out of whatever event was described upthread.

I note that when the 2 Gaza independent MPs left Your Party, Adnan Hussain in particular was comparing the insistence that left wing activists asked them to state the affirmation that TWAW. He described how if you couldn't sign up to it, it was akin to Blasphemy

Sorry if this was posted already

This was the poem he read out

https://nitter.net/Fontybits1/status/2000510985699016713#m

That poem is a stone cold atrocity.

Who was making the legal threats, Ince?

People were not swallowing his "i Am ThE sAvIoUr Of ThE tRaNsEs" schtick. Somebody posted a mean. Robin was unhappy.

He deleted his post, though.

Thanks for the nitter link so we can read some of the responses.

It gives the Vogons and Adrian Mole a run for their money 😳

The danger of invoking poetry in one's social media apologia, is that even if you're a very good poet by contemporary standards, a large number of people will be unappreciative of your efforts and you risk exposing yourself to ridicule - as contemporary poetry has become highly niche and inaccessible. If your proficiency ranges more toward the aspirational enthusiast, well....

He didn’t mention trans issues in his statement, did he?

Sorry, yes he did. I obviously can’t read.

I don’t use Bluesky so had a quick delve to see the reception he was getting over there. It’s an echo chamber of inane proportion. You can almost see how they get so high on their own supply that any challenge or slight criticism (or ridicule I suppose, like this brilliant thread 😂) becomes ‘hate’.

I looked under one of his Sandie Peggie posts and it was literally all ‘yeah! Those transphobes are so evil and full of hate they just can’t bear anyone who’s different and colourful like us! I’m ready to fight the bigots!’ They all sound quite mad.

As others have pointed out, Ince’s skepticism is nowhere to be found any more (and oddly he looks quite like Billy Bragg now. He’s certainly of a type).

I can't bear Brian Cox, for that reason, either.

Someone should drop him the link to this chat on bluesky…

They’d probably call the police and blame JK Rowling.

I remember reading Goldacre’s book and coming away feeling more positive about homeopathy - though this was clearly not the intended outcome for him. He wrote a whole chapter on how clever the placebo effect was and how strong it can be, then seemed to completely fail to link this up with homeopathy. It was like he believed the placebo effect was only ‘clever’ when the placebo in question took certain forms.

Plus a true skeptic can not be an atheist - that is also fixed belief position. It is impossible to prove the presence or absence of God and therefore you should be open to the possibility there might be one - agnostic.

Ben Goldacre was at the Guardian at the same time as arch woo merchant Barefoot Doctor wasn't he?

I and indeed all of them, would argue very very strongly against that position and say that, on the balance of probability, given zero evidence to the contrary, we are very much alone in the universe. A technical agnostic position to hedge your bets is one not based on evidence and indeed, wishful thinking :)

Regardless of whatever Ince has done, and it seems to be a lot, I remain a dedicated skeptic of homeopathy, alternative medicines, bearded men (or women) in the sky, and an intangible soul.