More whinning this time it's turn of the mental health sector

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/dec/08/single-sex-spaces-trans-nonbinary-mental-health-charities

waaaah the poor trans and NB ppl MH. What about women's mental health?? Couldn't give a fuck about that could you?

the mental health of many women had been shaken to its foundation by the fact that ppl like doctors, academics, charity CEO seriously regard womenhood as a costume men can pop on and that women wanting their own spaces and places is sad, evil and bigoted. We had no idea just how very vey unimportant they thought we were

you should be looking hard at yourselves for encouraging ppl in their delusions about wrong bodies/ changing sex and letting ppl think that everyone else would affirm them. It's not other pols job to affirm people's fantasy beliefs about themselves

just fuck off the lot of you!!

I worked in a MH setting 8+ years ago. Wnen we had a CQC inspection they picked up on the fact that we had a mixed sex lounge and said it didn't meet guidelines. We had to create a separate lounge for men. The patient we had who "sometimes felt like a woman" was treated as a man with a MH illness and had to sleep on the men's floor and use the men's lounge.

Quite agree about the absurdity of so-called transphobia. I'm personally horrified at the mutilation of young people's bodies - and most of it on the NHS too.

I've been in an NHS adult psychiatric unit and an adolescent unit and sexual abuse was rife but most of it was from staff. Mostly the perpetrators were men, as they usually are, but there was a woman abuser who was the deputy warden of one place. The anxiety levels were sky high, being terrified of being the next victim and sleep was almost impossible. Memories of these awful experiences still persist. Many of the children and young people died young.

Allowing men who claim to be women into what should be women only spaces is endangering vulnerable people and it's unacceptable. I often wonder how this ludicrous ideology ever took hold and why the NHS generally, psychiatry in particular and Social Services allowed themselves to be captured by it.

This diffusing technique is used throughout our institutions. At school in the 70s we had to sit boy/girl/boy so that the girls would stop any difficult behaviour. My daughter and her friends at primary school in the 2000s, all bright, kind, well behaved were used to diffuse the sometimes appalling behaviour of the most difficult boys in the year, by sitting between them. On several occasions they were punched, sworn at etc and when I queried it and asked how it was helping her education and how she was being kept safe, there were blank looks amongst the teaching staff who just seemed to see them as support humans and I was told ‘the class works better this way’.

That's awful. Girls shouldn't be used like that.

Yes, agreed.

But the Guardian is just one long moan fest when it comes to trans ideology. The Graun should be ashamed of itself over the entire issue.

God, yes. I remember this. Is it still happening? I also remember boys being told they'd have to "go and play with the girls" if they couldn't behave in their boys' group. As if being put in with the girls was some kind of threat, an unimaginable shame.

It gives girls the message that they are support humans from a young age.

I do feel very, very sorry for the little lads that have been (are being) lied to, but the adults in the room should never have been allowed to affirm them in the way they have.

And you are a risk to other people's mental health and so are all the people who enable you. Most of all, a woman's role is to enable a man, sayeth the Guardian. If I had a subscription I'd cancel it. Since I don't I'll ignore their begging requests and read their articles for nothing.

Samaritans
Mind
Centre for Mental Health
Royal College of Psychiatrists
Children and Young People’s Mental Health Coalition,
Beat
Mental Health Foundation
Association of Mental Health First Aiders,

Who else?

Honestly Santa needs them on the naughty list.
How dare they.

Some of the organisations you mention also supported the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) and eugenics, so they've got form.

When women were put in Broadmoor, they were frequently used as some kind of twisted therapy for the men, many of whom were sex offenders. At the 'clinical disco' women had to dance with rapists. Some reported they were abused by the men but the staff didn't care. Many of these women had been abused as children and self harmed badly which was why they were sent to Special hospitals as they were seen as unmanageable. This went on until c2006.

I have found I no longer trust or respect psychiatry as a disapline or practice. If it would allow this idiocy to take hold, how likely is it they understand anything about the human mind? It's just bs snake oil imo.

Demanding that some men have unfettered access to women in psychiatric crisis not a bug, it's a feature. It's the whole point, in fact.

We already know that disabled women face a roughly 80% lifetime sexual assault victimisation rate because we are more vulnerable to abuse. We also know that women with mental health conditions are routinely held to be lying or otherwise unreliable as witnesses.

Making available a collection of easily-rapeable women who no one will believe is the whole point of this. And of course, the oft-repeated assertion that trans-identified people have piss-poor mental health makes it really easy for any male who fancies helping himself to the victim selection box in the local psych ward to claim poor mental health and get referred there.

KJK has given so many women a platform to testify from and recorded their witness statements as to what it is to be female in a patriarchy for posterity. She is a shero.

This is why every girl should have the option of attending a single-sex school.

If the boys run riot in their single-sex classes, that's a "them" problem.

Is there a grassroots organisation for female psychiatric patients? When the organisations meant to help us pull stunts like this, it's time to walk away and create our own.

What??!! That’s outrageous. Why is the NHS so deeply captured? These are people who see and work with reality every day.

It’s astonishing, and what’s worse, Wes Streeting doesn’t seem to want to do anything about it.

I’ve tracked it back through old publications and archived websites, the Dept of Health was strongly influenced by Christine Burns (a trans identifying man) and the charities associated with them (Press for Change and GIRES). They made sure that single sex wards became mixed sex, but that the data still showed them as single sex.

Lots more detail on the NHS audit threads - I can link, if you want.

I just came across the letter and looked for a thread.

I worked with a girl in care who was a victim of horrendous abuse by a rape gang. She was transed by CAMHS when she wasn't into 'girl' clothing. A Consultant Psychiatrist suggested it to her like she was their new pet project. And everyone else went along with it like they were the clever ones. She had been raped hundreds of times. Of course she didn't want to present as feminine. FFS.

She ended up in a secure mental health unit. For years. Later 'detransitioned' and is now a lesbian.

Every agency in this field was falling over itself to be the first to work with a 'trans kid'. They wanted it to happen.

I had so many friends in CAMHS, social work etc, but they are all still in the thrall of this ideology. I'm so angry with them that I no longer see them.