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Fears Labour’s Islamophobia definition could silence women’s rights campaigners - Baroness Falkner

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IwantToRetire · 08/12/2025 01:02

Labour's Islamophobia definition could be used to silence women’s rights campaigners, the recent head of the equalities watchdog has warned.

Baroness Falkner said the new definition could be weaponised against those who “dare” say that Muslim women are being suppressed.

The new definition – which has not yet been published by Communities Secretary Steve Reed – has been criticised by Tories as a route to a “de facto blasphemy law”.

Criticising the plans, Baroness Falkner told Sky News: “If they’re going to bring in yet another area where, for example, anyone who’s defending women’s rights is going to be accused by those ethnic minority men of Islamophobia, if they dare say something about how Muslim women are suppressed.

“I’m a Muslim woman myself. I know all about this.

“I know the community.”

NB source is the Sun! Link for full article https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/37562911/labour-islamophobia-definition-silence-womens-rights/

Fears Labour’s Islamophobia definition could 'silence' women’s rights activists

LABOUR’S Islamophobia definition could be used to silence women’s rights campaigners, the recent head of the equalities watchdog has warned.  Baroness Falkner said the new definition could be …

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/37562911/labour-islamophobia-definition-silence-womens-rights/

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Imnobody4 · 10/12/2025 13:18

Stephen Bradbury acquitted at Derby Magistrates’ Court – The Free Speech Union https://share.google/IDbKfp4H3E8LKNQK6

The case centred on two posts on X in which Mr Bradbury criticised Naz Shah, the Labour MP for Bradford West, after she liked and shared a post from an Owen Jones parody account stating, with reference to the grooming-gangs scandal: “Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of #diversity.”

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/12/2025 13:18

Wow, over 1000 GC feminists!?!

Imnobody4 · 10/12/2025 13:20

Just to add to my delight.

During the trial, Ms Shah accepted that there is a disproportionate representation of Pakistani men in grooming-gang cases.

alamak · 10/12/2025 13:25

Imnobody4 · 10/12/2025 13:18

Stephen Bradbury acquitted at Derby Magistrates’ Court – The Free Speech Union https://share.google/IDbKfp4H3E8LKNQK6

The case centred on two posts on X in which Mr Bradbury criticised Naz Shah, the Labour MP for Bradford West, after she liked and shared a post from an Owen Jones parody account stating, with reference to the grooming-gangs scandal: “Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of #diversity.”

Yet no one took Naz Shah to court for her RT because those thousands of girls raped have no 'protected' characteristic. Naz Shah is a particularly thick one though. When Winnie Mandela died, she tweeted approvingly of "necklacing" having not the slightest idea of what it was. A party that is full of such thickos has no business drafting speech curtailment laws.

BundleBoogie · 10/12/2025 13:33

OnAShooglyPeg · 10/12/2025 08:32

I sometimes wonder if Labour are deliberately making themselves unelectable by destroying any sense of good will that they may have had. I do not understand how anyone can look at what they have been doing and see a positive outcome.

Sometimes I worry because it’s already too late - that Labour have done something which has given the means to stay in power as long as they want so they don’t care if we hate them, they know we have no choice. They have started by cancelling local elections - what next?

EvelynBeatrice · 10/12/2025 13:37

NiftyBird · 10/12/2025 03:59

A previous poster reposted a release from Free Speech Union, who considered it outrageous that they have not been consulted on the new definition.

I do not consider it outrageous (and made that clear).

I was then asked why I was so keen to dismiss them, so I answered.

I then responded to follow ups.

Hope that helps.

Edited

Thanks. You’ve solidified my intention to join them. Want to support.

quantumbutterfly · 10/12/2025 14:21

alamak · 10/12/2025 13:25

Yet no one took Naz Shah to court for her RT because those thousands of girls raped have no 'protected' characteristic. Naz Shah is a particularly thick one though. When Winnie Mandela died, she tweeted approvingly of "necklacing" having not the slightest idea of what it was. A party that is full of such thickos has no business drafting speech curtailment laws.

😟That's grim.

BundleBoogie · 10/12/2025 15:27

Imnobody4 · 10/12/2025 13:18

Stephen Bradbury acquitted at Derby Magistrates’ Court – The Free Speech Union https://share.google/IDbKfp4H3E8LKNQK6

The case centred on two posts on X in which Mr Bradbury criticised Naz Shah, the Labour MP for Bradford West, after she liked and shared a post from an Owen Jones parody account stating, with reference to the grooming-gangs scandal: “Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of #diversity.”

Exactly. Look at the people we are not allowed to criticise to see who has the power.

This is very worrying
Naz Shah is a particularly thick one though. When Winnie Mandela died, she tweeted approvingly of "necklacing" having not the slightest idea of what it was.

I can’t believe anyone could be that stupid.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 10/12/2025 17:05

quixote9 · 08/12/2025 05:42

Interesting that the immediate reaction among quite a few people is not, "Well, we do have to be sure women are treated with respect."

It's "We do have to be sure Muslims are not offended."

I agree. And yet there’s a massive difference between offending people, which may be annoying, and oppressing them, which causes them genuine harm and frequently escalates to violence, including murder.

Free speech has to include the right to offend people. Otherwise it is not free speech.

BundleBoogie · 10/12/2025 17:17

alamak · 10/12/2025 13:00

FGM is a muslim issue as it is religiously sanctioned or widely perceived to be sunnah, or acceptable practice. Religious authorities in many diverse muslim communities across the globe permit it or do not work particularly hard to condemn it. Indonesia, the world's most populous muslim nation, had no record of FGM until conversion to Islam and in recent years with increasing religiosity has seen increased rates of FGM, though the type practised in Indonesia is less harmful (clitoral cutting rather than removal). There are non-muslim african communities that practise FGM but when it comes to the sheer numbers and institutional religious sanction, it is a global Muslim issue. You may not want to admit it as you seem to be fighting a different battle rather than the one for women and girls' safety and dignity.

Yes. Is it just a wild coincidence that millions of Muslims are carrying out FGM?

We know the level of control achievable by Islamists where they are almost the total majority in a country.

If FGM is so ‘un-Islamic’ as PPs are so desperate to convince us - why haven’t they stopped it already and why do these Muslims want to do it?

Some very ‘silo’ed’ thinking going on by PPs.

alamak · 10/12/2025 18:44

BundleBoogie · 10/12/2025 15:27

Exactly. Look at the people we are not allowed to criticise to see who has the power.

This is very worrying
Naz Shah is a particularly thick one though. When Winnie Mandela died, she tweeted approvingly of "necklacing" having not the slightest idea of what it was.

I can’t believe anyone could be that stupid.

She really is thick and worse, cannot keep away from social media. She keeps posting the offensive tweets about about others but always gets a free pass for her offensiveness.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/89mvhv/labour_mp_naz_shahs_necklacing_winnie_mandela/

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