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The Bluestocking: it's the season of mulled wine, conversations about pineapple and, of course, gerbils. Confused? You will be...

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EdithStourton · 29/11/2025 15:02

Welcome to the anarchic and marvellous women-only on-line pub, the Bluestocking. The booze won't give you a hangover, the cakes won't make you fat, and the conversations are fascinating, covering knitting, health and safety, the Muppets and anything else that comes to mind.

Climb Peak Woo, have a cuddle with Rosie the Red Panda, and watch out for capybaras busy with any necessary building works.

Welcome in (and name change at the door if you need too).

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SionnachRuadh · 09/12/2025 18:41

Andrew Doyle certainly gets where the Divine Amanda was coming from: Opinion | Twain and Tolkien mocked Amanda M. Ros. Maybe she duped them, too. - The Washington Post

MarieDeGournay · 09/12/2025 18:50

SionnachRuadh · 09/12/2025 18:27

I have a kind of interest in the old Dublin Protestant literary scene, which these days is mostly known for Oscar Wilde and Will Yeats, but was quite a tightly knit extended family of writers with a big impact in their time. They're mostly forgotten - who now reads Melmoth the Wanderer? - but interesting to me as a literary tradition that falls between two stools, not being really British but also not fitting in well with modern Ireland.

The North, of course, had less of a literary scene except for C.S. Lewis, and... well... I suppose Amanda McKittrick Ros is a cult figure, and I wish she were better known.
Amanda McKittrick Ros - Wikipedia

I think the likes of Wilde and Yeats, and Stoker - and Maturin if anybody remembered him! - are revered and valued in Modern Ireland.
In fact I baulked at the description of Stoker as an Anglo-Irish writer, I think of him as completely Irish, but in a specific tradition.

Wilde is complicated as he ..flourished, shall we say? in England, but both his parents were were steeped in Irish traditions and folklore, his father spoke Irish and there's a strong possibility Oscar did too.

Wilde's mother's poem on the Famine is incandescent with anger:

We are wretches, famished, scorned, human tools to build your pride,
But God will take vengeance for the souls for whom Christ died.
Now is your hour of pleasure – bask ye in the world’s caresses;
But our whitening bones against ye will rise as witnesses,
From the cabins and the ditches, in their charred, uncoffin’d masses,
For the Angel of the Trumpet will know them as he passes.
A ghastly, spectral army, before the great God we’ll stand,
And arraign ye as our murderers, the spoilers of our land.

Boiledbeetle · 09/12/2025 19:06

Poor Internet bloke. He finished up, everything was working and he left. Unfortunately for him he was still stood outside on his phone when I had to get him to come back as everything had stopped working.

One of the bits he replaced he replaced with a broken new version.

Hopefully this time it's all fine as he's now left and driven off straight away.

Can't think why he had to replace the original bits. As you'll see from the photo of one bit it still had plenty of life left in it.

The Bluestocking: it's the season of mulled wine, conversations about pineapple and, of course, gerbils. Confused? You will be...
SionnachRuadh · 09/12/2025 19:08

Definitely a strong possibility that Oscar was an Irish speaker. I know his frenemy Edward Carson was - and there's someone who really belongs to the old Anglo-Irish culture, he hated having to head up to Belfast to address crowds of Orangemen.

Does anyone remember Maturin? I remember getting Melmoth out of the library as a teenager - in an actual three volume hardback edition! - and nobody had borrowed it for years. And I can't believe there are more than a handful of people in the world who have read Stoker's non-Dracula stuff. Not that I recommend it, he was a one-hit wonder in literary terms, but his theatrical connections make his biography interesting.

Florence Farr seems to have been the key figure connecting anyone interesting at the time.

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 19:14

What’s the thinking behind replacing the shamrock, @MarieDeGournay ?

JanesLittleGirl · 09/12/2025 19:15

Boiledbeetle · 09/12/2025 19:06

Poor Internet bloke. He finished up, everything was working and he left. Unfortunately for him he was still stood outside on his phone when I had to get him to come back as everything had stopped working.

One of the bits he replaced he replaced with a broken new version.

Hopefully this time it's all fine as he's now left and driven off straight away.

Can't think why he had to replace the original bits. As you'll see from the photo of one bit it still had plenty of life left in it.

Looks like a cat has been using it as a toilet.

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 19:22

What on earth is that bit of kit @Boiledbeetle? It makes it look like the internet has been around since the early sixties!

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 19:26

I never name change and don’t have a different name on other threads. But the other day I saw a poster who had a similar name to me; the first part of it. It felt very odd.

Magpiecomplex · 09/12/2025 19:54

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 19:26

I never name change and don’t have a different name on other threads. But the other day I saw a poster who had a similar name to me; the first part of it. It felt very odd.

Yes, there's at least two other Magpies around. It does feel slightly weird.

Boiledbeetle · 09/12/2025 19:59

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 19:22

What on earth is that bit of kit @Boiledbeetle? It makes it look like the internet has been around since the early sixties!

No idea. The guy reckoned it was at least 20-25 years old.

Weirdly the high pitch whining noise (that I sodding knew wasn't my tinnitus) has finally stopped.

I'll ask the next internet person what it is when they come out on Thursday evening.

Yep! It's died again. Five minutes after I last posted. This time the internet and the tv have gone!

I suspect the cables coming into the house need renewing.

Boiledbeetle · 09/12/2025 20:03

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 19:26

I never name change and don’t have a different name on other threads. But the other day I saw a poster who had a similar name to me; the first part of it. It felt very odd.

I occasionally end up on the same thread as another Boiled and it discombobulates me!

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 20:03

Oh no, Boiley. It is so stressful when the internet dies…

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · 09/12/2025 20:06

thinking similar usernames is not as bad as identity borrowing, that would be terrible if it happened in this space 🙄

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 20:08

This poster was a Swash. I had the thought that I’d hate for the Blue Stockingers to think it was my non pub name if they started posting crazy stuff 🤣.

I did think of you, Hedgy, when I saw it and thought of mentioning my thought of you. But I didn’t want to dredge up a painful time… ☺️

Boiledbeetle · 09/12/2025 20:09

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 20:03

Oh no, Boiley. It is so stressful when the internet dies…

I know! I can't spy on the cats through the internals cameras when it goes down, I have to physically go and see what they've just knocked off something.

Luckily I still have an old TV with a video player in it and a DVD player. And thankfully a decent amount of data on my mobile. So I won't feel completely stuck in 1977 when we had no phone and no TV!

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 20:11

I have unlimited data too. But I still feel like I’m camping when the real internet goes down.

Boiledbeetle · 09/12/2025 20:14

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 20:11

I have unlimited data too. But I still feel like I’m camping when the real internet goes down.

I don't have unlimited, but I do have more than the 1GB per month I had for years on my mobile.

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 20:17

Ah, good. You’re all tucked in and toasty then, Boiley ☺️

MarieDeGournay · 09/12/2025 20:17

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 19:14

What’s the thinking behind replacing the shamrock, @MarieDeGournay ?

I'm guessing that the shamrock is too generically Irish, they wanted something that would represent Northern Ireland more specifically, and chose flax as a reference to the history of linen in Ulster.

You [one] could read a lot into it politics and identity-wise, but I just think: I get the relevance to the linen industry, and it's a pretty flowerSmile

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · 09/12/2025 20:19

I thought of changing my name to hedgehogisnotatwat but thought better of it.

for newer regulars we had a long spate of playing with AI so adopting an identity that could be used as an image was why i ended up as a hedgehog.

plus i like them

MarieDeGournay · 09/12/2025 20:22

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 19:22

What on earth is that bit of kit @Boiledbeetle? It makes it look like the internet has been around since the early sixties!

It's an isolator and surge protector, keeps the inside in and the outside out😄

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 20:23

Thanks, Marie ☺️. I do like a bit of linen.

Hedgey, #strange times 🙂

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · 09/12/2025 20:26

Have been meaning to comment somewhere on the apparent new rule that we cannot advise people to ignore a poster whose opinions are designed to goad.

So we must now just privately ignore, not declare we are ignoring, and ensure there is no obvious manifestation of the protected characteristic of freely ignoring someone’s posting habits.

i have been trying to think of another way of expressing my need to ignore out loud.

but fear that PIP might pick on me.

MarieDeGournay · 09/12/2025 20:26

Boily, have you ever wanted to be a Role Model?

Well you are: inspired by your tidying achievement, I ordered some storage things and have completely rearranged one whole ..cupboard [had to do a quick linguistic shift there from 'press'Wink].
It's a good feeling, isn't it?😇

Swashbuckled · 09/12/2025 20:26

Impressive surge protector knowledge there, Marie 🙂

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