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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sara Morrison v BFF thread 4

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MarieDeGournay · 17/11/2025 14:41

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OhBuggerandArse · 17/11/2025 15:45

ProfessorFanOfBen · 17/11/2025 15:38

I don't think that makes sense, does it? It was a stack of papers, IIRR, and anyway, DB was on the panel (not any more, but to say info about her is not about the panel would seem v odd).

Read in reverse order - it's about Nick. Sorry - picture not showing. But it was @NoBinturongsHereMate reporting.

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 17/11/2025 15:46

From NW

MD no
NC in fact, collaborating was tricky wasn't it because of the relationship between you and Outburst wasn't it
MD no
NC you and Ruth McCarthy were both made directors of Outburst on the same day in 2010 and you haven't worked with them since 2011 because after that you got into a relationship with and subsequently married RM's partner

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 17/11/2025 15:46

NC you and Ruth McCarthy were both made directors of Outburst on the same day in 2010 and you haven't worked with them since 2011 because after that you got into a relationship with and subsequently married RM's partner

😱😱😱

EmploymentJudgeSigourneyHoward · 17/11/2025 15:46

WHOAH

UtopiaPlanitia · 17/11/2025 15:47

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 17/11/2025 15:46

NC you and Ruth McCarthy were both made directors of Outburst on the same day in 2010 and you haven't worked with them since 2011 because after that you got into a relationship with and subsequently married RM's partner

😱😱😱

Typical Norn Iron, it's such a small world over here 🤦‍♀️

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 17/11/2025 15:47

We've just strayed into EastEnders territory

ickky · 17/11/2025 15:47

It has everything, this tribunal.

ProfessorFanOfBen · 17/11/2025 15:47

Ah.

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 17/11/2025 15:47

From NW

[big intervention on relevance from Sean Doherty (SD), R's barrister - NC pushes back and is allowed to ask]
MD I am not married to RM's former partner... we live together
NC so there was no real way you were going to ever work with Outburst Arts
MD no I'm a professional

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 17/11/2025 15:49

MD no I'm a professional

professional what? Partner stealer?

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 17/11/2025 15:49

From NW

[we move to MD wearing a "trans-inclusional feminist" t-shirt at pride at end July 2023]
NC so that's a feminist
MD absolutely
NC who believes men can be women
MD we did these verbal gymnastics earlier
NC if you're a trans inclusional feminist then it should include trans women

UtopiaPlanitia · 17/11/2025 15:49

I know the term hostile witness really refers to something else in court terminology but Michele Devlin really comes across as an actually hostile witness.

ProfLargofesse · 17/11/2025 15:50

From NW but just did a double take at the 'do I have to J?'

MD no I don't accept that [NC takes her to the fine line email]
NC what did you mean by fine line
MD it's self explanatory
NC could you explain it anyway
MD do I have to J
Ms D, the tribunal does need to understand what you mean

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 17/11/2025 15:50

From NW

MD and trans men
NC and that's the opposite side of the debate from those who think men can't be women.
MD no I don't accept that it's more complex
NC you are aligned with the idea of refusing to accept men who think they are women can be lesbians and thinking so is bigotry

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 17/11/2025 15:52

From NW

MD no I'm not
NC and that men can compete in women's sports
SD this is not relevant
MD I wore that t-shirt because the theme of the tribunal was "stand by your trans"
NC but what does that mean
MD it's very complex

ickky · 17/11/2025 15:52

Tammy Wynette shout out again.

ProfessorFanOfBen · 17/11/2025 15:53

"theme of the tribunal"? Was that someone's Freudian slip? (Hers or Nick's?)

ProfessorYourMotherSortsSocksInHell · 17/11/2025 15:53

Another Elf here. I remember standing in front of a mirror on the floor and Brown Owl birling me round and I had to say "Twist me and turn me and show me the Elf, I looked in the water and there saw myself"

Was that just Elfs or all Brownies?

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 17/11/2025 15:53

From NW

MD I can and do discuss this, but if we talked about it here we could talk about it all day
NC okay if you can't say what it is, do you agree it's contentious
MD yes
NC do you agree with most people's view - as expressed by Mark Cousins - that most people hold GC views

UtopiaPlanitia · 17/11/2025 15:53

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 17/11/2025 15:52

From NW

MD no I'm not
NC and that men can compete in women's sports
SD this is not relevant
MD I wore that t-shirt because the theme of the tribunal was "stand by your trans"
NC but what does that mean
MD it's very complex

These Tribunal witnesses always seem to have ride or die loyalty to an idea that they can never explain in plain english.

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 17/11/2025 15:53

MD it's very complex

🤔

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 17/11/2025 15:54

From NW

MD possibly
NC so should the BFF discipline you for taking a political position which is alien to most peoples' in Belfast
MD but there were no complaints
NC so if there were complaints should you be disc or dismissed

ProfLargofesse · 17/11/2025 15:54

Ooh, so NC leading her down the path of one rule for her and no rules for me.

If she can wear that tee-shirt, which will piss of 'treasured' communities of GC women (of course not at all treasured) then why isn't she being investigated!

ProfLargofesse · 17/11/2025 15:55

Ooh, and Boom! There were no complaints about SM until the engineered and cc'd email fishing for them.

BlueBarnOwl · 17/11/2025 15:55

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 17/11/2025 15:53

MD it's very complex

🤔

It's a nuanced complex nebulous dog whistle, innit

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