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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sara Morrison v BFF thread 4

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MarieDeGournay · 17/11/2025 14:41

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SexRealistic · 18/11/2025 09:57

CriticalCondition · 18/11/2025 08:16

MD has a duty to disclose any documents or messages relevant to the case whether they are sent via her work email or personal WhatsApp or written in lemon juice on parchment and sent by carrier pigeon.
I suppose that last one wouldn't be in her possession but you get the idea.

Rather like our friends in Fife her approach to discovery will have been very poor

Her evidence of PRIDE ON THE BIG SCREEN was a 37 erection manual

CriticalCondition · 18/11/2025 10:02

Yes, exactly. Her disdain for the entire process is evident. An application for special discovery would be delicious.

CriticalCondition · 18/11/2025 10:07

Was it a 10am start this morning?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/11/2025 10:07

Today we're expecting MD to finish up, then KP (I think - can't remember the name but fairly sure those were her initials; might be from Think People rather than BFF) for the rest of the morning.

Not sure when LMcK is scheduled, but apparently he's only been allocated 15 mins. And I think there are then at least 2 more witness to go.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/11/2025 10:08

Yes to 10 am theoretical start time. Hearing room filling up so should be imminent.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 18/11/2025 10:09

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/11/2025 07:51

As to her comprehension - I’m afraid that’s exactly the point.

Heartily agree! If she can't understand something as simple as who is entitled to what title, how can she possibly begin to comprehend complex employment law? Or truth, which is pretty fundamental to a tribunal.

Basically, she doesn't know what she doesn't know.

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 18/11/2025 10:13

Ready for pasting.

Tea at my side.

Sadly my usual supplier (of many years) has run out of cardamom tea. So I've sourced another.

  • 10% off new order,
  • loyalty reward programme,
  • 12 boxes = £52 with usual supplier = 48
  • BUT each box has 100 teabags not 40, so it's much cheaper.

The Lion is happy.

ProfessorSzygy · 18/11/2025 10:16

ProfessorDameFarriersGirl · 18/11/2025 09:46

Am struggling to keep up with this as usual...I was a Gnome in brownies but didn't enjoy it and dropped out asap. I like a certificate or two and actually have a diploma in booze 🍷🍾Not sure what that qualifies me for in terms of jobs.

Take heart, I went to ONE Brownies meeting (I was there so briefly I don’t even know what they’re called but I’m sure there’s a special name for them - pow-wow or something?) and hated it so much I implored my Mum not to make me go back.
She was fine with that so I didn’t.

I'm not much of a joiner, as I’ve discovered in life subsequently.

ProfessorEmeritusVeraAtkins · 18/11/2025 10:17

Oh my lord, a delve into the dark recesses of my memory uncovers a memory of winning a Wack Pack with Special Spooky Ingredient. One wonders what high office awaits with this qualification?

Madcats · 18/11/2025 10:20

Since nothing sems to be hppening yet, can I ask about Cardamon tea, Prof Myrtle?

Is it a green tea or black? Any other flavourings?

I have an assortment of teas and a jar of cardamon pods....

MarieDeGournay · 18/11/2025 10:20

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 18/11/2025 09:49

Having had time to think of previous accomplishments I once spent 2 days at REDACTED Crown Court treating a bug infestation in the records room.

Having walked past (and likely covered in bug spray) 1000s of old court records I feel I am more qualified than any judge in the land.

Therefore I will be taking up my place as President of the Justices of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom.

You may call me The Right Honourable Boiledbeetle or Lady Boiled.

I'm not sure if you have to courtesy when you meet me, but I think you should just to be on the safe side.

Edited

'Treating a bug infestation'?
Sure for you, the Rt Hon. Boiledbeetle, that meant saying 'Come along family, gather up your belongings, we're moving!'

edited to address you correctly!

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ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 18/11/2025 10:26

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 18/11/2025 09:49

Having had time to think of previous accomplishments I once spent 2 days at REDACTED Crown Court treating a bug infestation in the records room.

Having walked past (and likely covered in bug spray) 1000s of old court records I feel I am more qualified than any judge in the land.

Therefore I will be taking up my place as President of the Justices of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom.

You may call me The Right Honourable Boiledbeetle or Lady Boiled.

I'm not sure if you have to courtesy when you meet me, but I think you should just to be on the safe side.

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Good Day Thank You GIF by Regal

Joins thread
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ProfessorofSelfPortraiture · 18/11/2025 10:27

ProfessorDameFarriersGirl · 18/11/2025 09:46

Am struggling to keep up with this as usual...I was a Gnome in brownies but didn't enjoy it and dropped out asap. I like a certificate or two and actually have a diploma in booze 🍷🍾Not sure what that qualifies me for in terms of jobs.

HM Lord High Sommelier, Keeper of the Royal Cellars and Admiral of Three Sheets to the Wind?

MarieDeGournay · 18/11/2025 10:27

Namechanged999999 · 18/11/2025 01:57

Do they not just deliver to the address on the envelope?

But if the address on the envelope is
Michael McKeown
Beltully
Co Louth
there could be several in the same townland!
We now have a postal code in Ireland, so each McKeown residence would have a distinctive code.

Efficient, but it takes a lot of the fun and local expertise out of postal delivery.
There are regular cases of overseas tourists sending thank you letters addressed to the likes of
THE NICE COUPLE WHO LIVE BESIDE THE CROSSROADS BETWEEN BALLYGALL AND OWNMORE, DONEGAL, IRELAND
and the postal service proudly delivers themSmile

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Justabaker · 18/11/2025 10:28

Hi all - I don't want to detonate this thread but I'm working on pulling together to republish the TT coverage of Helen Webberley. You are the best at this so....

I'm trying to figure out what she was doing between 1992 when she finished medical training and 2005 when she started working as a GP in South Wales

Please DM me to avoid consuming this thread with it.

nauticant · 18/11/2025 10:30

ProfessorDameFarriersGirl · 18/11/2025 09:46

Am struggling to keep up with this as usual...I was a Gnome in brownies but didn't enjoy it and dropped out asap. I like a certificate or two and actually have a diploma in booze 🍷🍾Not sure what that qualifies me for in terms of jobs.

That puts you on a par with other drop-outs like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Richard Branson, and Mark Zuckerberg.

Seriously impressive.

Madcats · 18/11/2025 10:33

Is NW not there, today? He doesn't seem to have started tweeting.

ProfessorDameFarriersGirl · 18/11/2025 10:34

ProfessorofSelfPortraiture · 18/11/2025 10:27

HM Lord High Sommelier, Keeper of the Royal Cellars and Admiral of Three Sheets to the Wind?

Brilliant - perhaps I'll get an invite to Sandringham over Christmas given they have got a spare room going this year.

TheRevDocProfKittyWilkinsonTSB · 18/11/2025 10:37

Madcats · 18/11/2025 10:33

Is NW not there, today? He doesn't seem to have started tweeting.

I got his blog last night and he signed off with live tweeting resumes tomorrow!

MarieDeGournay · 18/11/2025 10:37

I'm still wondering about this judge - did she know DB was spoofing about the professorship all along? if the fibromyalgia excuse was madey-uppy, as many here have suggested, did she know that too, and did she go along with a convenient untruth to the tribunal?

Is she incapable of spotting untruths? or does she tolerate them if they are convenient?
Surely that's the opposite of what judges are supposed to do!

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ProfessorBettyBooper · 18/11/2025 10:38

Justabaker · 18/11/2025 10:28

Hi all - I don't want to detonate this thread but I'm working on pulling together to republish the TT coverage of Helen Webberley. You are the best at this so....

I'm trying to figure out what she was doing between 1992 when she finished medical training and 2005 when she started working as a GP in South Wales

Please DM me to avoid consuming this thread with it.

Interesting project!

Feb 1993 - Aug 1996 3 years 7 months. Queen Elizabeth Hospital NHS Trust Graphic. House Physician/Surgeon.

That's a headline from LinkedIn, bur I'm not on it so can't see more. But I'd start there.

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 18/11/2025 10:39

Madcats · 18/11/2025 10:20

Since nothing sems to be hppening yet, can I ask about Cardamon tea, Prof Myrtle?

Is it a green tea or black? Any other flavourings?

I have an assortment of teas and a jar of cardamon pods....

It is the nectar of the gods.

It's a black Indian tea that I first sampled when I was married into an Indian family. Usually served very sweet and very milky. Sadly I became lactose intolerant and didn't drink it again.

This version is often found in coffee shops as Chai tea. Not only is this a misnomer because chai literally means tea (tea tea anyone), but it is not the same. It is made from a powder with milk included - a bit like hot chocolate. I know this because I asked for a black cup of chai tea and they showed me the carton.

Then I was living with a partner who was of Indian heritage and we went to India for a family wedding - Catholic, so I fit right in.

Had black cardamom tea because I don't drink milk so they thought I was odd but it was delicious. And available as teabags in supermarkets made by Twinings! I brought all some of the boxes home.

And then discovered that Twinings don't make it for the British market. So I found various suppliers, tried them all and settled on my previous supplier who are currently out of stock. Probably not going back to them.

It's lovely - black, one teabag, one spoonful of sweetener or sugar in a pot (in the actual pot) for one that delivers two and a half teacups of lovely tea, boiling water, leave for six minutes then pour.

MarieDeGournay · 18/11/2025 10:40

Madcats · 18/11/2025 10:33

Is NW not there, today? He doesn't seem to have started tweeting.

Didn't NW say he had some appts in London this week?

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ProfessorBettyBooper · 18/11/2025 10:40

@NoBinturongsHereMate Are you at the Hearing today?

ProfessorDoctorJudgeOfSteel · 18/11/2025 10:41

ProfLargofesse · 18/11/2025 09:16

I've been developing a deeper understanding of GenAI over the last year or so and it is clear that it is so woven into the lives of the younger generation that they are being significantly de-skilled on lots of levels and don't fully appreciate that text based AI is a language learning model that seeks patterns, and in that process will seek to fill in gaps by using those patterns rather than actual information.

I find it more useful to think of it in those terms rather than the more common idea of it hallucinating because it is important to see it as a pattern-seeking machine looking for statistical probabilities rather than having any actual intelligence. Hallucinating tends to suggest it's just a blip which is unexplainable rather than it being very explainable.

It is a very useful tool when you understand that. As a search engine it can gather information and sources in a useful way and much more quickly than google which favours advertising payments in how it presents the results of your searchers but AI also learns from your use what you are seeking and will find a pattern in that behaviour too which it will then apply to any searching.

And so you always need to ask it to provide links to sources and go to those sources yourself. If the summary stands up in the face of that then it might be useful. As with the law itself and evidenced in these threads everything is open to interpretation, even most facts, so applying your own intelligence to any information gathering is always crucial.

I'm always against blanket rejection of any tool rather than the application of critical thinking to how it is being used. Adding a working understanding of the tool you are using to further develop research skills rather than de-skill is much more productive. Know the tool you are using and setting out how you are using it, and how you have applied your own critical assessment to the offering rather than do knee-jerk rejection is more useful. It is here to stay and the better we understand its benefits and failings and apply our brains to how we use it the better we will be at using it.

I’ve just used AI for a couple of personal statements as I’m job hunting (or would be if I wasn’t on Mumsnet). I copy and pasted the requirements and how I fit them and then used AI. It’s really good as is very time saving, but you do have to check the language is correct spelling for the UK and has the correct meaning.

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