UK man challenges refusal of Irish citizenship to his child on the basis that he is not the mother

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https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1112/1543524-irish-citizenship-court/

'A UK trans woman, who used her frozen sperm to have a baby with her wife, has been granted permission to bring a High Court challenge against a refusal by the State to grant Irish citizenship to the child on the basis that she is not the biological mother.
The woman - who has Irish citizenship while her wife does not - submits that if she has to claim to be the "father" of the child as part of the application, it would be an "offensive, discriminatory and unjust attack" on her person, gender identity and legal status.'

'In submissions to the High Court the woman, who was born male, states that she is a UK resident but with Irish citizenship through her own lineage.
The submissions state that the woman had stored sperm with a UK fertility clinic, intending it to be used at a future date. She changed her name and transitioned from a man to a woman under UK law, receiving a UK gender recognition certificate.
The woman married her female partner and frozen sperm was then used to have a baby with her wife by an IVF procedure at a UK clinic.
The woman says she fears any UK withdrawal from the European Convention on Human Rights would mean her family could lose its protections and status in that country.
It is submitted by the woman that her child was refused entry into the foreign births registry - thereby denying Irish citizenship - as the woman was not the biological mother of the child and because her wife, who gave birth to the child, was not an Irish citizen.
The woman submitted that the Department of Foreign Affairs informed her that "under Irish law, as applied to date, the mother of the child is the woman who gives birth to the child and therefore the child would derive their citizenship through that mother".
It is claimed by the woman the department's position is that, because she is not the biological mother of the child, she therefore does not meet the requirement of an Irish citizen parent and the application cannot proceed.
The woman further submits that she could have claimed to be the "father" of the child and "could have possibly obtained citizenship by descent that way".
"I feel it would invalidate me as a trans woman, invalidate my legal status as a woman and invalidate my same-sex marriage," she said.'

I just sigh when I see this kind of time wasting. This is not an important concept. It’s all about the narcissistic man at the expense of a whole load of court time and potentially at the expense of his child, though I have little doubt that if the court says no to him, he won’t stand on his principles.

Nobody should be offended by having to stick to reality when it comes to the rights of their children. I have to wonder whether the child is loved or simply a tool in his agenda to promote his men’s rights agenda.

In addition this is the perfect example of poor reporting. Calling him a woman throughout makes the whole thing unnecessarily difficult to understand.

I hope the Irish court stands firm as the UK court did on the concept of biological mother and father. Those are concepts relating to a child, not something you can wave aside out of a selfish desire to see yourself as something you can never be.

Hes a man in a heterosexual marriage who just needs to fill in the paperwork as the child's father (which he is)

Biologically he is the father.

He can identify however the fuck he likes but his DNA and how it is provided to his child is sex based.

Exactly, court is not arguing that he is not a woman, but that he is not THE MOTHER. Which he isn't, the son has a mother, one and only biological mother like all of us.

You need a venn diagram to understand the pronouns in these articles sometimes.

Ireland has self ID in law, so hes made a mess of this for himself. He has effectively lied in the form by claiming to be the mother, which he isn't. But as self ID is law and the UK GRC will be respected, its a legal mess.
It will be interesting to see what the courts make of it, but I would be surprised if it wasn't made worse by "be kind" judges.

there is a slightly earlier thread which might have been missed, here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5443088-uk-transwoman-suing-because-irish-citizenship-not-recognised-for-his-child