Times Interview with Kate Clanchy - shared article in post

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This is a sobering, thoughtful, harrowing, blood-boiling read. What Kate Clanchy went through 😡. I’ve put this in FWR as it’s yet another story of a woman being cancelled on the basis of rumour, supposition and hearsay with self-righteous people scrambling to jump on the “be kind” wagon as it rolls another human being and their career into the mud.

Kate Clanchy: I was cancelled. It made me contemplate suicide

www.thetimes.com/article/7681d5ec-3773-4b36-ab95-e4ab409d7899?shareToken=e76def471fd13ded750d7295fd554675

Wait, are you saying that immigrant and refugee children’s poetry is… contaminated? Seriously?

I personally found Adam Kay’s book incredibly misogynistic, and quite upsetting reading regarding gynecological patients. But then, when I saw the songs he’d sung about children with down syndrome, it paled into insignificance. Nevertheless, I’ve never tried to cancel him and it seems he’s doing very well, given the television show the book was made into. I wonder what the difference could be…

Shhhh, it’s more fun for people to make shit up!

Enjoy what?

Agree. Hopefully this will change as the trend for cancellation dwindles.

@musicismyboyfriend I work at a university in the arts - even the level 6 students are supervised and protected by ethical frameworks to protect them when working creatively on something, such as a traumatic experience, which might cause them undue harm. They are discouraged from doing so and have to provide paperwork to acknowledge this, it’s basic safeguarding.

Well, that's the most insane thing I've read on the internet for a while, and it's such a crowded and competitive field. So congratulations, I guess.

I can just imagine the scenario where each student is made to describe their traumatic experiences before being allowed to begin on any possible assignment.

Has anyone watched "Mr Burton" on IPlayer? It made me think of this thread.
It's all about how an inspirational teacher changed Richard Burton's life. If his teacher had took the advice of some of the people on this thread Richard Burton would have spent his life down the pit and died of black lung.

"Dostoyevsky, it's an interesting idea, but before you start I do think you need a course of counselling to investigate how your grandmother's death affected you, in order to ensure you don't find the writing process traumatic and wounding to your psyche. And of course, you'll need to fill out the 15 page "how I will protect my mental well being during the creative process" form before you start. Don't forget the healing space we have available if you experience any challenging thoughts! I'm always here for you!"

Chekov! Ffs, why is there a gun on the wall!?

Exactly. And all of these totally believable claims delivered with an unexpectedly aggressive and combative tone from one supposedly immersed in kindness and safeguarding.

Maybe it gets a bit much in the day job and PP has to come here to work off some pent up shoutiness?

Dostoyevsky, we would like to inform you that you forgot to put trigger warnings on your traumatic experience release form, and unfortunately have caused violent harm to our trauma specialist based on her lived experience. We are now no longer able to support or publish you, and await your full and frank apology.

'Mr Orwell, let's try to focus on the nice, improving and soothing stories for a while, shall we? Art should be fun and wholesome!'

her students are able to recognise themselves in the writing

Gosh. That's quite a reactionary way of seeing things. Level 6 Dissertations - 300-400 hours of work. Are you suggesting that we shouldn't try to ensure and test (and monitor) a student's resilience to focus upon something personally very challenging for that length of time? As I said, it's basic safeguarding and not 'insane'.

Wow, you're really having fun in this imaginary world. It's not that deep.

errr, reading the book?

I would be very interested to know what it was about my comment that you thought was aggressive, shouty or combative?

Some of her students may recognise aspects of their own situations in the writing.

This is what 'fictionalised' means. She's written composite characters, based on or prompted by real events.

Just take a look at your earlier posts.

you suggesting that we shouldn't try to ensure and test (and monitor) a student's resilience to focus upon something personally very challenging for that length of time.

@musicismyboyfriend how do you test a student’s resilience?

how would you?

You will need to be a little more specific, I'm afraid.

You know that I actually was having fun right?

Wow, is that why you come on here?