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Mollyollydolly · 14/10/2025 00:19

I really liked this interview because she was so careful and considered in what she said, she didn't want to misquote anyone. It's interesting because so many see her as a divisive figure, to me she's just very honest and straight down the line.

IwantToRetire · 14/10/2025 01:31

I did watch it and thought she went out of her way not to be over the top irate.

But it reminded me why I dont really like talk tv.

The presenters are so pushy and butting in because they need to keep to a schedule that it leaves you feeling cant you just let whoever it is talk.

IwantToRetire · 14/10/2025 01:36

From Rahila Gupta's facebook page (for those who wondered what she said)

My speech at the opening plenary of the FiLiA conference over the weekend in Brighton is being misquoted, misremembered and misrepresented to portray me as a supporter of Hamas to suit Zionist agendas. To set the record straight, here are the relevant paras, copied and pasted from my speech and also a recording of what I said:

But behind the scenes, the emotional drain of planning the programme and deciding who should speak and on what topics is felt by the trustees who have to be as tough as old boots to carry on year after year. The point about building a movement is to welcome everyone into the tent, to coalesce women around a set of shared political principles and values, to take an expansive and generous view of any differences that may arise. Because the powers that we are up against are bigger than the differences between us and if we are to make progress, we must remain united. Filia recognises that patriarchy and capitalism divide and weaken us. As Robin Morgan said in Demon Lover, ’If I had to name one quality as the genius of feminist thought, culture and action. It would be connectivity.’ I pay tribute to the Filia team for their efforts to make this a big tent.

And that is why I want to end my talk with Palestine, the issue that is dividing us. This conference is taking place in the shadow of a genocide. As a feminist, my conscience will not allow me to end this talk without mentioning the unspeakable suffering of our Palestinian sisters and their children who account for over 70% of the war dead. As a feminist who has campaigned against religious fundamentalism, I will take no lectures about the evil of Hamas. Nor will I allow that evil to eclipse the evil of the fascist government that is running Israel. The original charter of Netanyahu’s Likud party declared that there will be only Israeli sovereignty between the river and the sea. I say, there must also be a Palestinian state between the river and the sea. Sisters, stand with me. Free, free Palestine.

https://www.facebook.com/rahila.gupta

Rahila Gupta

Rahila Gupta. 850 likes · 281 talking about this. I'm a writer.

https://www.facebook.com/rahila.gupta

SionnachRuadh · 14/10/2025 20:57

I'm afraid Rahila lost me with "Zionist agendas" - I mean how the fuck does any literate woman not know the rhetoric she's aping? - and didn't win me back with the platonic "free Palestine" that exists in her mind and allows her to portray herself (without explicitly saying so) as a critic of Hamas.

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 14/10/2025 21:24

SionnachRuadh · 14/10/2025 20:57

I'm afraid Rahila lost me with "Zionist agendas" - I mean how the fuck does any literate woman not know the rhetoric she's aping? - and didn't win me back with the platonic "free Palestine" that exists in her mind and allows her to portray herself (without explicitly saying so) as a critic of Hamas.

Agreed.

And something is lost just by reading her words. It's important to listen to her say them and consider how she says them.

ScribblingPixie · 14/10/2025 21:31

Mollyollydolly · 14/10/2025 00:19

I really liked this interview because she was so careful and considered in what she said, she didn't want to misquote anyone. It's interesting because so many see her as a divisive figure, to me she's just very honest and straight down the line.

I really like Julia Long, too. She was there because she thought the anti-semitism needed to be called out and wanted to be precise.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 14/10/2025 22:10

IwantToRetire · 14/10/2025 01:36

From Rahila Gupta's facebook page (for those who wondered what she said)

My speech at the opening plenary of the FiLiA conference over the weekend in Brighton is being misquoted, misremembered and misrepresented to portray me as a supporter of Hamas to suit Zionist agendas. To set the record straight, here are the relevant paras, copied and pasted from my speech and also a recording of what I said:

But behind the scenes, the emotional drain of planning the programme and deciding who should speak and on what topics is felt by the trustees who have to be as tough as old boots to carry on year after year. The point about building a movement is to welcome everyone into the tent, to coalesce women around a set of shared political principles and values, to take an expansive and generous view of any differences that may arise. Because the powers that we are up against are bigger than the differences between us and if we are to make progress, we must remain united. Filia recognises that patriarchy and capitalism divide and weaken us. As Robin Morgan said in Demon Lover, ’If I had to name one quality as the genius of feminist thought, culture and action. It would be connectivity.’ I pay tribute to the Filia team for their efforts to make this a big tent.

And that is why I want to end my talk with Palestine, the issue that is dividing us. This conference is taking place in the shadow of a genocide. As a feminist, my conscience will not allow me to end this talk without mentioning the unspeakable suffering of our Palestinian sisters and their children who account for over 70% of the war dead. As a feminist who has campaigned against religious fundamentalism, I will take no lectures about the evil of Hamas. Nor will I allow that evil to eclipse the evil of the fascist government that is running Israel. The original charter of Netanyahu’s Likud party declared that there will be only Israeli sovereignty between the river and the sea. I say, there must also be a Palestinian state between the river and the sea. Sisters, stand with me. Free, free Palestine.

https://www.facebook.com/rahila.gupta

I'm still always stunned when people claim the Jews are committing 'genocide' in Gaza. Do they know what genocide means? It's not just warfare, not just bombs. It's an attempt to eradicate an entire ethnic or national group. Within living memory, the Nazis made a serious effort to wipe out the Jews, and killed approximately six million. The Israelis are not attempting to wipe out the Palestinians.

I don't mean to make a pedantic point about vocabulary, but to ask people to stop diluting the horror of that word and concept, genocide.

Coffeelovr · 15/10/2025 01:05

"portray[ing] me as a supporter of Hamas to suit Zionist agendas"
There's divisive language straight off the bat

"my conscience will not allow me to end this talk without mentioning the unspeakable suffering of our Palestinian sisters and their children"
But I won't mention or decry what happened on October 7th

"I will take no lectures about the evil of Hamas"
Ah, the no debate stance

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2025 01:40

This wont make me very popular but if you think how questioning we all are on FWR of who is posting what and why on this forum, I find it really strange that so many are suprised by events at FiLia.

If it was my money I was forking out to go and meekly be told by self appointed experts what my feminism should be, I would do a bit of research as to who the organisers are.

There have been many many threads on FWR about a certain section of feminists who are adament that their version of feminism, very much based on left alliances, is the only right one.

They are the women who accuse any woman who says the issue, (eg mothers losing rights over children transitioning) is so important that if the only people who will platform us are right wing, as collaborators with the enemy. The women who years ago stopped KJK speaking at an event. Who every year tell Julia Long she isn't welcome.

Who even those who didn't know their names had such an alien experience at FiLia 2 years ago that a thread was started on FWR talking about the elephant in the room. The women who were happy to promote the film makers who basically took KJK ideas and publicity style to put them forward as who women should listen to, rather than the originator.

Just as the stopped the instigator of the idea of trans widows speaking in favour of friends. Or the long time campaigning GC activist lesbian from speaking, because she had worked across the divide in the US.

And as this meeting in the US is the one that blew up and was reported on FWR by Jean Hatchet, something those who have been on FWR must remember.

If we are able to remember the links between trans activists, why aren't we doing this for those women who consistently work to denigrate GC activists ie those who are part of Actual Gender Critical Left (now embedded in FiLia) and the network of socialist feminist who are part of the same circle. If you are looking for pointless purity spiral politics this is them. They even thought WPUK not pure enough.

And for socialists, not unlike the Labour Party, they are incredibly elitist. And so caught up in the rightness of their correct analysis that of course you abuse your position when invited to speak from the platform (an elitist concept in itself) you will feel you have to virtue signal to your political allies that you are on message.

FiLia may at best just wanting to be feminist entertainment inc. but if you remove the politics and just go for the big names without looking at their platform this is what happens. It has been going for too many years to claim naivety.

But to be surprised that something like this would happen at an event structured like this is I would suggest, not really facing up to the situation. In buying a ticket you are signalling that you accept others will decide what is important.

Sadly this is a repeat of how socialist feminists divided what was the Women's Liberation Movement. They just couldn't accept that other women would not fall into line with their politically correct view of the world.

Grin

edited for terrible typos (again) and to add that this year I would suggest twitter wars have created personal spite on line that has bled into real life. Some of it is just plain nasty.

ArabellaSaurus · 15/10/2025 08:53

Well, I partly agree, Iwant. Filia do do some good work, but there are flaws that need to be addressed. IMHO.

SionnachRuadh · 15/10/2025 09:49

The thing is that Filia by design is a broad church. Not that it's got no boundaries, but they have to be pretty loosely drawn for it to be effective.

This is in conflict with a subset of socfems who think it's very very important for any feminist initiative to be left wing, who often prioritise their ties to the left over a commitment to women as a whole, and whose level of mature and constructive engagement when it comes to broad churches is roughly on a level with a toddler refusing to put on its wellies.

I don't object in principle to them participating, but nobody owes them any deference, and someone needs to tell them that they can't just join things, take them over and make them uninhabitable for everyone else. They've done that once too often.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/10/2025 09:59

IwantToRetire · 14/10/2025 01:36

From Rahila Gupta's facebook page (for those who wondered what she said)

My speech at the opening plenary of the FiLiA conference over the weekend in Brighton is being misquoted, misremembered and misrepresented to portray me as a supporter of Hamas to suit Zionist agendas. To set the record straight, here are the relevant paras, copied and pasted from my speech and also a recording of what I said:

But behind the scenes, the emotional drain of planning the programme and deciding who should speak and on what topics is felt by the trustees who have to be as tough as old boots to carry on year after year. The point about building a movement is to welcome everyone into the tent, to coalesce women around a set of shared political principles and values, to take an expansive and generous view of any differences that may arise. Because the powers that we are up against are bigger than the differences between us and if we are to make progress, we must remain united. Filia recognises that patriarchy and capitalism divide and weaken us. As Robin Morgan said in Demon Lover, ’If I had to name one quality as the genius of feminist thought, culture and action. It would be connectivity.’ I pay tribute to the Filia team for their efforts to make this a big tent.

And that is why I want to end my talk with Palestine, the issue that is dividing us. This conference is taking place in the shadow of a genocide. As a feminist, my conscience will not allow me to end this talk without mentioning the unspeakable suffering of our Palestinian sisters and their children who account for over 70% of the war dead. As a feminist who has campaigned against religious fundamentalism, I will take no lectures about the evil of Hamas. Nor will I allow that evil to eclipse the evil of the fascist government that is running Israel. The original charter of Netanyahu’s Likud party declared that there will be only Israeli sovereignty between the river and the sea. I say, there must also be a Palestinian state between the river and the sea. Sisters, stand with me. Free, free Palestine.

https://www.facebook.com/rahila.gupta

She fails to recognise that the disproportionate loss of women and children during the conflict is in large part down to the way that Hamas and Gazan society operates. The women and children are at home.....the homes in which Hamas shelters ( thus becoming targets for IDF strikes); using the women and children as shields and as martyrs to the cause.

Women's main value to the 'resistance' is in producing large numbers of children. The Gazan population has been one of the fastest growing in the world. "Our women's wombs are our bombs". Women's duty is to keep giving birth to martyrs. Little martyrs that will be indoctrinated from an early age into a hatred of Israel and of Jews.

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2025 19:05

SionnachRuadh · 15/10/2025 09:49

The thing is that Filia by design is a broad church. Not that it's got no boundaries, but they have to be pretty loosely drawn for it to be effective.

This is in conflict with a subset of socfems who think it's very very important for any feminist initiative to be left wing, who often prioritise their ties to the left over a commitment to women as a whole, and whose level of mature and constructive engagement when it comes to broad churches is roughly on a level with a toddler refusing to put on its wellies.

I don't object in principle to them participating, but nobody owes them any deference, and someone needs to tell them that they can't just join things, take them over and make them uninhabitable for everyone else. They've done that once too often.

But for me being a broad church isn't the issue.

It is niave apolitical women thinking ooh this willl mean I can rub shoulders with important feminists, and everyone will like me because basically its just about women being together and it will all be alright.

Whilst in fact the structure of the event is a contraint and aceptes an implies an elitist attitude about some having a voice but the vast majority dont.

I think I explained on another thread how WLM Conferences acutally worked. And basically the content was decided by those attending by consulting with them in advance. This means it was far more broadbased than this essentially feminism for women who can afford it.

But did offer the opportunity for women working on specific issues to meet up and talk to each other, not sit in chairs where the apolitical organisers had decided that those who had appropriated other women's work would have THE voice.

So whether you are an isolated woman from a small village or women from a city, you get the chance to talk to and with those who want to advance a particular issue.

The whole antiquated structure feeds into what is currently feminism. The vast majority just consuming what they can read on line, whilst others think they are so important they have their own blog or whatever.

But if you want or accept that your feminism is curated for you, then the curator sooner of later uses that position to not only advance friends, but put them on a platform.

And when, even if they are well meaning, are niave enough to have been infiltrated by AGCL and their cronies this is what happens. They aren't there to be a broadchurch they are there to advance their narrow few of how and what feminism is.

And irrespective of the politics, if anyone at a WLM conference had thought they could give a speech they would have been heckled of the platform and told to get down among and at the same level as other women.

However, what hasn't changed is problems at the disco.

(Was really sad to see a review of FiLia by a woman who had never been before and went more out of interest than any feminist committment. Her report of workshops was quite interesting and sometimes funny. But she concluded that the disco was for the lesbians at the event. )

miraxxx · 15/10/2025 20:03

SionnachRuadh · 14/10/2025 20:57

I'm afraid Rahila lost me with "Zionist agendas" - I mean how the fuck does any literate woman not know the rhetoric she's aping? - and didn't win me back with the platonic "free Palestine" that exists in her mind and allows her to portray herself (without explicitly saying so) as a critic of Hamas.

She posted her speech on X and it is just the usual mindless Israel is fascist/innocent Palestinians being genocided binary that liberals parrot. The audience reaction to her chants of Free Palestine was anaemic and I enjoyed watching that. The rest of the hysteria especially by Milli Hill against Aja and other bad rightwing 'extremists' was the usual gatekeeping. None of these feminists would pick to live in Palestine over Israel given the choice. It is very much like the Libfems zealously parrotting TWAW while being acutely aware of the lie.

2Rebecca · 15/10/2025 20:58

I am surprised Filia didn’t have a “no speeches or discussions about Gaza/ Palestine “ stance. The medical fora I am on delete threads on this topic unless in the special Gaza forum because they are so divisive and rapidly become nasty. People talking about Gaza are always sure they are right whichever side they are on and it has very little to do with feminist particularly if you think hijabs are a great idea.

SionnachRuadh · 15/10/2025 21:48

There used to be a thing back in the 2000s where certain gamer fora would have an "atheism" section and an "other current events" section, because the people who insisted on making everything political were annoying and needed to be corraled into their own space, but the Christopher Hitchens fanboys were so annoying that they needed a special corral or they would drown out literally everything else.

Gaza is like that now. At the absurd end it's redditors badgering K-pop stars to have an opinion on Gaza. At the less absurd end it's the likelihood that you can't have a useful event like Filia without some hammerhead insisting that it has to take a corporate line on Gaza.

Mollyollydolly · 15/10/2025 23:04

Does anyone ever look/post on the Actual Gender Critical Left Facebook. It makes Mumsnet so very inviting in comparison. I've just been having a look and they've banned Bindel. She was being criticised for being at The Battle of Ideas. One of her responses ..

Julia Long on Filia via GB News
catspyjamas1 · 15/10/2025 23:09

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2025 01:40

This wont make me very popular but if you think how questioning we all are on FWR of who is posting what and why on this forum, I find it really strange that so many are suprised by events at FiLia.

If it was my money I was forking out to go and meekly be told by self appointed experts what my feminism should be, I would do a bit of research as to who the organisers are.

There have been many many threads on FWR about a certain section of feminists who are adament that their version of feminism, very much based on left alliances, is the only right one.

They are the women who accuse any woman who says the issue, (eg mothers losing rights over children transitioning) is so important that if the only people who will platform us are right wing, as collaborators with the enemy. The women who years ago stopped KJK speaking at an event. Who every year tell Julia Long she isn't welcome.

Who even those who didn't know their names had such an alien experience at FiLia 2 years ago that a thread was started on FWR talking about the elephant in the room. The women who were happy to promote the film makers who basically took KJK ideas and publicity style to put them forward as who women should listen to, rather than the originator.

Just as the stopped the instigator of the idea of trans widows speaking in favour of friends. Or the long time campaigning GC activist lesbian from speaking, because she had worked across the divide in the US.

And as this meeting in the US is the one that blew up and was reported on FWR by Jean Hatchet, something those who have been on FWR must remember.

If we are able to remember the links between trans activists, why aren't we doing this for those women who consistently work to denigrate GC activists ie those who are part of Actual Gender Critical Left (now embedded in FiLia) and the network of socialist feminist who are part of the same circle. If you are looking for pointless purity spiral politics this is them. They even thought WPUK not pure enough.

And for socialists, not unlike the Labour Party, they are incredibly elitist. And so caught up in the rightness of their correct analysis that of course you abuse your position when invited to speak from the platform (an elitist concept in itself) you will feel you have to virtue signal to your political allies that you are on message.

FiLia may at best just wanting to be feminist entertainment inc. but if you remove the politics and just go for the big names without looking at their platform this is what happens. It has been going for too many years to claim naivety.

But to be surprised that something like this would happen at an event structured like this is I would suggest, not really facing up to the situation. In buying a ticket you are signalling that you accept others will decide what is important.

Sadly this is a repeat of how socialist feminists divided what was the Women's Liberation Movement. They just couldn't accept that other women would not fall into line with their politically correct view of the world.

Grin

edited for terrible typos (again) and to add that this year I would suggest twitter wars have created personal spite on line that has bled into real life. Some of it is just plain nasty.

Edited

Well said!!!

OP posts:
Morningsleepin · 16/10/2025 04:00

LeftieRightsHoarder · 14/10/2025 22:10

I'm still always stunned when people claim the Jews are committing 'genocide' in Gaza. Do they know what genocide means? It's not just warfare, not just bombs. It's an attempt to eradicate an entire ethnic or national group. Within living memory, the Nazis made a serious effort to wipe out the Jews, and killed approximately six million. The Israelis are not attempting to wipe out the Palestinians.

I don't mean to make a pedantic point about vocabulary, but to ask people to stop diluting the horror of that word and concept, genocide.

It's not the Jews, it's a political sect of the Jews called Zionists that many Jews oppose. And it has been deemed a genocide by the ICJ, ICC and the UN

daisyasaurus · 16/10/2025 07:15

Morningsleepin · 16/10/2025 04:00

It's not the Jews, it's a political sect of the Jews called Zionists that many Jews oppose. And it has been deemed a genocide by the ICJ, ICC and the UN

You're in the wrong place, we don't accept Jew hate in FWR.

ArabellaSaurus · 16/10/2025 07:39

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2025 19:05

But for me being a broad church isn't the issue.

It is niave apolitical women thinking ooh this willl mean I can rub shoulders with important feminists, and everyone will like me because basically its just about women being together and it will all be alright.

Whilst in fact the structure of the event is a contraint and aceptes an implies an elitist attitude about some having a voice but the vast majority dont.

I think I explained on another thread how WLM Conferences acutally worked. And basically the content was decided by those attending by consulting with them in advance. This means it was far more broadbased than this essentially feminism for women who can afford it.

But did offer the opportunity for women working on specific issues to meet up and talk to each other, not sit in chairs where the apolitical organisers had decided that those who had appropriated other women's work would have THE voice.

So whether you are an isolated woman from a small village or women from a city, you get the chance to talk to and with those who want to advance a particular issue.

The whole antiquated structure feeds into what is currently feminism. The vast majority just consuming what they can read on line, whilst others think they are so important they have their own blog or whatever.

But if you want or accept that your feminism is curated for you, then the curator sooner of later uses that position to not only advance friends, but put them on a platform.

And when, even if they are well meaning, are niave enough to have been infiltrated by AGCL and their cronies this is what happens. They aren't there to be a broadchurch they are there to advance their narrow few of how and what feminism is.

And irrespective of the politics, if anyone at a WLM conference had thought they could give a speech they would have been heckled of the platform and told to get down among and at the same level as other women.

However, what hasn't changed is problems at the disco.

(Was really sad to see a review of FiLia by a woman who had never been before and went more out of interest than any feminist committment. Her report of workshops was quite interesting and sometimes funny. But she concluded that the disco was for the lesbians at the event. )

Thats interesting. Curious to know more about how the WLM meetings worked, and how effective they were. There must have been organisers, if not leaders?

BlueJuniper94 · 16/10/2025 07:49

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2025 19:05

But for me being a broad church isn't the issue.

It is niave apolitical women thinking ooh this willl mean I can rub shoulders with important feminists, and everyone will like me because basically its just about women being together and it will all be alright.

Whilst in fact the structure of the event is a contraint and aceptes an implies an elitist attitude about some having a voice but the vast majority dont.

I think I explained on another thread how WLM Conferences acutally worked. And basically the content was decided by those attending by consulting with them in advance. This means it was far more broadbased than this essentially feminism for women who can afford it.

But did offer the opportunity for women working on specific issues to meet up and talk to each other, not sit in chairs where the apolitical organisers had decided that those who had appropriated other women's work would have THE voice.

So whether you are an isolated woman from a small village or women from a city, you get the chance to talk to and with those who want to advance a particular issue.

The whole antiquated structure feeds into what is currently feminism. The vast majority just consuming what they can read on line, whilst others think they are so important they have their own blog or whatever.

But if you want or accept that your feminism is curated for you, then the curator sooner of later uses that position to not only advance friends, but put them on a platform.

And when, even if they are well meaning, are niave enough to have been infiltrated by AGCL and their cronies this is what happens. They aren't there to be a broadchurch they are there to advance their narrow few of how and what feminism is.

And irrespective of the politics, if anyone at a WLM conference had thought they could give a speech they would have been heckled of the platform and told to get down among and at the same level as other women.

However, what hasn't changed is problems at the disco.

(Was really sad to see a review of FiLia by a woman who had never been before and went more out of interest than any feminist committment. Her report of workshops was quite interesting and sometimes funny. But she concluded that the disco was for the lesbians at the event. )

Do you have a link to that review?

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/10/2025 19:22

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2025 01:40

This wont make me very popular but if you think how questioning we all are on FWR of who is posting what and why on this forum, I find it really strange that so many are suprised by events at FiLia.

If it was my money I was forking out to go and meekly be told by self appointed experts what my feminism should be, I would do a bit of research as to who the organisers are.

There have been many many threads on FWR about a certain section of feminists who are adament that their version of feminism, very much based on left alliances, is the only right one.

They are the women who accuse any woman who says the issue, (eg mothers losing rights over children transitioning) is so important that if the only people who will platform us are right wing, as collaborators with the enemy. The women who years ago stopped KJK speaking at an event. Who every year tell Julia Long she isn't welcome.

Who even those who didn't know their names had such an alien experience at FiLia 2 years ago that a thread was started on FWR talking about the elephant in the room. The women who were happy to promote the film makers who basically took KJK ideas and publicity style to put them forward as who women should listen to, rather than the originator.

Just as the stopped the instigator of the idea of trans widows speaking in favour of friends. Or the long time campaigning GC activist lesbian from speaking, because she had worked across the divide in the US.

And as this meeting in the US is the one that blew up and was reported on FWR by Jean Hatchet, something those who have been on FWR must remember.

If we are able to remember the links between trans activists, why aren't we doing this for those women who consistently work to denigrate GC activists ie those who are part of Actual Gender Critical Left (now embedded in FiLia) and the network of socialist feminist who are part of the same circle. If you are looking for pointless purity spiral politics this is them. They even thought WPUK not pure enough.

And for socialists, not unlike the Labour Party, they are incredibly elitist. And so caught up in the rightness of their correct analysis that of course you abuse your position when invited to speak from the platform (an elitist concept in itself) you will feel you have to virtue signal to your political allies that you are on message.

FiLia may at best just wanting to be feminist entertainment inc. but if you remove the politics and just go for the big names without looking at their platform this is what happens. It has been going for too many years to claim naivety.

But to be surprised that something like this would happen at an event structured like this is I would suggest, not really facing up to the situation. In buying a ticket you are signalling that you accept others will decide what is important.

Sadly this is a repeat of how socialist feminists divided what was the Women's Liberation Movement. They just couldn't accept that other women would not fall into line with their politically correct view of the world.

Grin

edited for terrible typos (again) and to add that this year I would suggest twitter wars have created personal spite on line that has bled into real life. Some of it is just plain nasty.

Edited

Feminists and women's rights campaigners are not a hive mind. It would be ridiculous to think 51% of the population think the same way.

Who even those who didn't know their names had such an alien experience at FiLia 2 years ago that a thread was started on FWR talking about the elephant in the room. The women who were happy to promote the film makers who basically took KJK ideas and publicity style to put them forward as who women should listen to, rather than the originator.

What on earth are you talking about?Confused

Morningsleepin · 16/10/2025 21:49

daisyasaurus · 16/10/2025 07:15

You're in the wrong place, we don't accept Jew hate in FWR.

I don't either

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