Girl,17, took own life waiting for gender dysphoria treatment

[Davros]

This is in my local paper, I looked on the BBC news website to see if it was there but couldn’t find it, couldn’t see another thread. It’s an interesting article, sorry about all the random ads. I expected it to be full of tosh about “gender affirmation” but it didn’t really say that
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/25528275.girl-17-took-life-waiting-gender-dysphoria-treatment/?ref=eb&nid=2390&block=article_block_a&u=a248f39b87a0e63551993ca1336fdb9a&date=091025

It’s sad mental health services aren’t what they should be. They really are so inadequate.

In the article it states:
“Leia faced hostility from parts of the community and as she waited many months for treatment was exposed to social media content inciting people like her to suicide, he added.”

I wonder what it means as the only suicide talk seems to be from TRAs. Unfortunately talking about suicide can increase it.

Very sad story. Must be so difficult for the family.

She should have been having some kind of therapy for her depression whilst waiting. Stories like this are so dangerous though because it's the kind of stuff tra's will use to push their agenda.

Looks like it was the TRAs fault from the sound of it, they need to be stopped.

The waiting lists for CAMHS are appalling and services still not much good when they finally arrive. Poor child and that poor family.

I feel so sad for that darling girl, she definitely needed more mental health support.

Hopefully cases like this will really help the government ti focus on delivering faster and better mental health support.

It won’t, sadly. Mental health services are terribly under funded and under resourced.

I would imagine that's why TRA's are inciting it - they're using confused, depressed teens to make their point. The point that they should be given what ever they want and allowed to do whatever they want because otherwise there's a risk of suicide.
Poor girl, what these kids really need is help with their mental health. There is always so much more to these kids stories than just 'they want to change gender'. There's often neurodiversity, bullying, not fitting in, trauma - but the wait for any kid of mental health help is probably just as long.

This. All children who are experiencing gender dysphoria should have immediate access to mental health treatments. No one is disputing this quite the contrary many are pushing for this treatment that has been blocked and branded by extremists as "conversion therapy." If this young person had access to quality mental health supports she may still be alive today. Instead her only option was to delve into the cesspool of social media where TAs talk about suicide nonstop and this is the result.

I wonder what this was referring to: ‘Leia faced hostility from parts of the community and as she waited many months for treatment was exposed to social media content inciting people like her to suicide, he added.’

from whom? TRAs?

either way, it’s very sad. Of course, there’s no guarantee that, had she had treatment, that would have helped/saved her either, unfortunately.

More evidence really that whatever your beliefs and views, getting your gender distressed child/teen the hell off the internet and off social media is one of the most important things you can do to protect them.

Is it clear whether Leia was male or female?

What a terrible thing. I’m sure the ghoulish, fox killing lawyer will use this to his advantage, not even considering for a moment that the false suicide narrative he’s been pushing is responsible for things like this.

Given Leia is described by Pink News as a trans girl, I have taken it that the young person was male. A sad situation when any young person takes this course of action 💔

It’s disappointing if this otherwise pretty non gender woo article was reporting a male as female all the way through. It’s just dishonest.

This sounds positive though.

Since the clinic’s closure the health service reported the exponential rise in referrals for critical care had eased. NHS Medical Director for Specialised Services, Professor James Palmer, suggested this was down to a “change in philosophy” around hormone treatments brought in by the Cass Review.

The manipulative use of suicide is one of the more abhorrent aspects of TRA - not least because that sort of publicity and eulogization is known to cause copycat suicides. It's totally irresponsible reporting.

It would seem from the language used that this was a boy. Unfortunately the MH harm risks in different groups are considerable: boys are higher risk, Autism is another higher risk, eating disorders is another high risk, there are multiple, and much evidence suggests that children presenting with gender distress often have multiple and complex needs across several groups. The new gender clinics approach is supposed to work on thoroughly assessing and supporting all these needs rather than the previous approach of focusing solely on transition, but can only help if they and CAMHS have capacity to not only see children/teens rapidly but also provide thorough, quality and effective services when appointments come through.

It’s concerning if the reporting about the coroner’s conclusions and recommendations are accurate. It would suggest that he wasn’t presenting with accurate evidence.

The most obvious error would be if his recommendation included advice about managing waiting lists/ times at a non existent clinic.

This quote is ambiguous, ‘Having to battle with changes to her body without receiving the necessary preventative treatment, together with the many hurdles and setbacks, gradually eroded her belief that she would succeed and everything would be alright,” It could be interpreted as having not accessed treatment to stop ‘her’ body changing in puberty ‘she’ lost hope that her body could every be the way that ‘she’ wanted it to be.

Whilst a nod is given to ‘many hurdles and setbacks’, this reporting fall short of Louis Applby’s guidance on reporting suicide.

It is probable that the distress that underpinned the gender dysphoria was multifaceted and multiple factors led to gender dysphoria and that these same factor led to the overwhelm to which suicide was deemed to be the only source of relief.

It is sad, and unacceptable that this child did not get mental health support. Cass highlighted the need for GPs and CAMHS to take an active role in treating the distress experienced and not to operate from the position that only a highly specialist team can help.

It's definitely because of people who support trans rights that this girl killed herself, and not because of the massive reduction in trans healthcare?

The truth twisting on here is breathtaking when a young girl has died and you're using it to score points. Disgusting. You're so far down the rabbit hole of obsession and hatred that you can't go back.

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If this was a more naturally “feminine” boy who wasn’t accepted by other boys and possibly bullied by other boys and then ended up taking his own life then toxic masculinity and our outdated gender ideas are really to blame but most people don’t recognize this so things won’t really ever improve, will they? When will we be able to embrace each individual in all their diversity, as they come into the world, instead of making them feeling shame for not measuring up to some made up standards?

I agree. There's so much pressure on kids to conform

That's really sad.

Whoever that child was, male or female, and whatever their gender identity issues, it's a tragedy that someone so young should think killing themselves is the solution to their problems.

Mental health services are so appalling in this country.

The Trans lobby should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for pushing their dangerous ideology onto lonely young impressionable kids, but they won’t be because they’re mainly narcissistic arseholes.

The truth twisting on here is breathtaking when a young girl has died and you're using it to score points.

In this one sentence alone, you're doing exactly what you're accusing others of doing. Truth twisting to score points.