Caitlin Moran latest article in which she calls “women”, “non-trans women”

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She is unbelievable. How she can call herself a feminist I do not know. Throw in some selective reporting of the JKR / Emma Watson argument and a lovely soft mention for convicted criminal and misogynist Boy George, this article has everthing except critical thinking.

link to article below - scroll through her usual vapid shit to the last item (no 1) in which she puts women into a subset of our own sex, that is “non-trans women”.

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I am super GC - card carrying member of my local Women's Rights Network - but I really don't see the issue with this article, other than her prolific use of the word "febrile".

I've never understood why she's had a column in a national newspaper for this long. Does she ever have anything worth saying that won't also be written, in exactly the same style, as Hello or one of the chatty mags? The juxtaposition of subject matter with her "ooh silly ol' me" is not amusing and very boring. She seems, to me anyway, to be trying (and failing) to walk a neutral line in this article. But saying Rowling fell out with Watson and referring to Rowling's post on twitter as angry, but no reference to the tone of Watson's approach is biased. Also talking about women "finally getting into a quiet room together, having a really big cry" is what your granny would say about a mild family fallout, not a serious discussion about human rights.

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It's not so much what she says in this one as what she's allied herself with before:
-Refusing to take any position on it
-Cringing apologies for referring to wombs when not all women have them (from the person who wrote How To Be A Woman FFS
-Admitting that she avoids the issue because she's frit, despite portraying herself as a badass, Doc-wearing feminist.

She's a fucking fraud and a waste of space. But this piece suggests the tiniest first shuffle towards a reverse ferret, which did such a committed libfem is interesting.

Still contemptible, mind. But interesting.

Because "non-trans women" means non-male women. It's utterly disturbing. Even moreso than "non men", arguably. I'm genuinely not trying to be snarky, but it's difficult to understand how a feminist who belongs to the WRN would not see this glaring problem. Language matters. It's how we enshrine and protect all of our rights.

The comments section is a scream though.

Pretty sure it's actually transphobic to distinguish between transwomen and women unless it's for the benefit of a trans person.

I remember a few years ago young people would use AFAB (assigned female at birth) in order to mean woman, eg "looking for AFAB singer for our band, all genders welcome" until it was pointed out how terfy and exclusionary this was.

Sure Caitlin Moran is no Victoria Smith level feminist, but I don't want to outright dismiss her. She can be funny and her writing on parenting her anorexic daughter was extremely moving.

I subscribe to the Times and generally refuse to click on her pieces to avoid any impression that she generates traffic and is thus worth paying.

But yes, they're fun 😁

Same

I won’t give that traitor the clicks. I have nothing but contempt for her cowardice

Can’t see the comments

I dunno. Bonfire night soon. Although I don't normally advocate burning books.

Vacuous tripe

So we used to be women, then cis women and now non-trans women????
Fuck that. I am a woman. I don’t need another name for my biological sex.

I must have missed the bit where GC Feminists threatened to rape Transwomen (or any other men)
As you need a penis to rape it would be a somewhat empty threat - well from the Feminists at least

I used to love CM's Celebrity Watch column but it's nowhere near as good as it used to be. Calling women "non-trans women" is a new low, though. Shame, because it was her "How to be a woman" that got me into feminism, having been brought up to believe that feminism was a bad thing.

The comments vastly improve matters!

Very on brand for the vapid pick-me idiot

Please consider writing up-arrow "non-trans" on the inside title page before it goes to the charity shop!

Can anyone those of us who don't subscribe what the comments are saying?

If she doesn't want to risk massive personal fallout over this issue then she should avoid writing about it, full stop.

Not make half arsed forays into it while being offensive to pretty much all women while calling herself a feminist.

That's why it bothers me.

From the comments:

This hit the wrong spot entirely, though I usually like black humour. Boy George is a convicted violent offender, which should be mentioned. Emma Watson’s silly and unscientific opinions are laughable at best. JKR understands biological reality and stands up for millions of women.
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• 16 HOURS AGO
• Not just the wrong note but the completely false note. As in, two shameless falsehoods.
• 1. 'every single person who’s been prominently involved in it [trans issue] — on both sides — has undergone years of online rape and/or death threats.' Do please Ms M, show me one, just one example of women's rights defenders threatening TIMs or TIFs with such threats. No, I thought not. The 'both sides critique' has long been recognised as a plain lie.
• 2. 'JK Rowling has fallen out with Watson'. Nope. Watson piled in; JKR politely ignored her for 7 years until Watson just lately saw that public opinion was no longer supporting her twittery and did a rancidly shameless, Rse-covering reverse-ferret of 'lets be friends'. At which point JKR brusquely declined, indicating her lack of belief in Watson's sincerity.
• Clearly Moran thinks Watson is sincere. But then Moran hasn't experienced a decade of rape, death and mutilation threats from the people Watson still supports, has she?

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J
16 HOURS AGO

‘Non-trans women’ is this how we’re to be described now? I’m also a non-police officer, non-cyclist and non-vegetarian not to mention non-Buddhist, non-catholic, non-Australian, goodness me this could take all day!
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• 14 HOURS AGO
• Brilliantly summarises this clunking daftness. And thank you for making me giggle!

From the comments, last one.

16 HOURS AGO

I think I just read my final Moran column. A shocking waste of column inches and my time. “One of the most complex and febrile debates of the past decade” eh? What is so complex about it? XY can’t magically become XX.
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• J
• 2 HOURS AGO
• It's complex if you think not making men sad is at least as important as women's safety, privacy and dignity

I've taken out peoples name from the comments as I think commenting on a Times article behind a paywall is a bit different to commenting elsewhere and I don't think they let you use a pseudonym.

That said, V, if you're on here, I love you!

Can you copy any of the best? I do find it ironic that The Times is chock-full of brilliant writers who have led the thinking on this issue, from Janice Turner and Hadley Freeman to Alex Massie and Sarah Ditum. And then the one person who has published a book called How to be a woman apparently does not get it.