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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Trans Segregation In Practice"

115 replies

grandroid · 06/10/2025 19:44

What are y'alls thoughts on this collection of anecdotes?

https://transactual.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Trans-Segregation-in-Practice.pdf

https://transactual.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Trans-Segregation-in-Practice.pdf

OP posts:
FKAT · 06/10/2025 23:06

I stopped reading after the first anecdote started like this: “Myself and another trans woman were called into a meeting..."

It's "Another transwoman and I were called into a meeting..." you monsters. For a group that bang on all day and night about pronouns, you'd think you'd know how to use them correctly.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/10/2025 23:07

cariadlet · 06/10/2025 20:45

How fantastic to hear so many examples of men being excluded from women's spaces to protect women's privacy, safety and dignity.

This!

Enough4me · 06/10/2025 23:07

Yes, it's convinced me that sex-change is possible. I'd go out and tell the world but my door is jammed by flying pigs hitting it.

RedToothBrush · 06/10/2025 23:09

EdithStourton · 06/10/2025 21:56

After years of 'no debate', my sympathy is very limited.

That sounds horrible, but the whole farrago of Lia Thomas, Isla Bryson, etc, and people being doxxed and cancelled has done it for me.

Someone has sad times in a Ladies. Meanwhile, someone else - invariably female - has lost a spot on an olympic team, been assaulted in prison, been obliged to change with an intact male.

I have the mindset of treating everyone equally and expecting everyone to equally respect everyone else.

The second someone acts in an unreasonable way that impinges on others, I lose sympathy.

It doesn't matter how they identify. A twat is still a twat. Their physical twat status is irrelevant.

Act like a twat and I'll just that accordingly.

It's always about the behaviour not the identity.

MurkyWeather2 · 06/10/2025 23:19

FKAT · 06/10/2025 23:06

I stopped reading after the first anecdote started like this: “Myself and another trans woman were called into a meeting..."

It's "Another transwoman and I were called into a meeting..." you monsters. For a group that bang on all day and night about pronouns, you'd think you'd know how to use them correctly.

😂😂😂

DramaLlamacchiato · 06/10/2025 23:24

I don’t believe any of these “experiences” are true, but even if they are, I give not one shiny shit about the hurt feelings of cross dressers.

BettyBooper · 06/10/2025 23:37

Tbh I'm sad, so sad that I have lost all my friends to this complete and utter bullshit.

University lecturers, social workers, teachers....

All completely in the thrawl of gender ideology.

It's fucking devastating.

BiologicalRobot · 06/10/2025 23:56

@grandroid I cant access pdf files. Be a sweetie and do a c/p.

TomorrowisMonday · 06/10/2025 23:59

but this means walking to the other side of the school to use the gender neutral toilet by ‘reflection’, where the naughty kids are sent to hang out.

I skimmed it and felt a bit sorry for them because I thought they were a school child, nope a deluded transwoman teacher...🤣

Who is convinced they "pass completely" yet some of these "naughty" kids call them "sir".

I am sure there are actual biological women using the gender neutral loos too and somehow they aren't mistaken for male ...

Manteiga · 07/10/2025 00:03

“I’ve been confronted and told that we can’t
use gendered facilities until we are post-op." - still some way to go before everyone gets their heads round the law, unfortunately.

WearyAuldWumman · 07/10/2025 00:08

TomorrowisMonday · 06/10/2025 23:59

but this means walking to the other side of the school to use the gender neutral toilet by ‘reflection’, where the naughty kids are sent to hang out.

I skimmed it and felt a bit sorry for them because I thought they were a school child, nope a deluded transwoman teacher...🤣

Who is convinced they "pass completely" yet some of these "naughty" kids call them "sir".

I am sure there are actual biological women using the gender neutral loos too and somehow they aren't mistaken for male ...

I've said elsewhere on these boards that I did a stint in a Scottish secondary where a non-binary teacher had gone off sick, claiming to be stressed by the kids. His laminated nameplate had the name "Mx [Surname]" plus a cartoon picture of a bloke with a beard.

In his absence, the kids dutifully used "Mx", but kept referring to the teacher as "he". Kids tend to say what they see.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 07/10/2025 00:11

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 06/10/2025 20:33

I haven't rtf link, but I doubt it's actual 'trans segregation' as in all the trans people being rounded up and made to use separate facilities.
Because that would be, you know, illegal.

Sounds like the usual whining at having to follow the very same rules re sex segregated facilities as everyone else.

If we hadn't had years of trans identified males forcing themselves into places they weren't welcome (or legally allowed), no one would be questioning butch looking women.

Having been a butch looking woman at times, I'd much rather be questioned than have another woman be worried about my presence.

I like to think that's probably because I'm not a selfish arsehole.

This is exactly it. Men who have been breaking the law for years are now upset by having to obey it. What a shame. And what a huge relief for women to be allowed privacy again.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 07/10/2025 00:27

Being prevented from using the women’s loo made one man feel absolutely humiliated, degraded, violated and dehumanised.".

By a bizarre coincidence I have sometimes had exactly the same set of feelings. They occurred when I had been raped, or beaten up by a would-be rapist because I had tried to back away from him, or surrounded and molested by a gang of violent teenaged boys.

I have also had one or more of those feelings during less physically damaging assaults or harassment. Always by men.

Obviously not as shattering as being a man stopped from using the women’s toilet. But I am so glad to hear that women are at last regaining places of safety and privacy.

Datun · 07/10/2025 01:57

The entitlement of these men is off the scale.

Up until now they have managed to force people, largely through fear, to walk on eggshells around them and comply with their every demand. All to the detriment of women.

And now the OP fondly imagines that massive tantrums and toy throwing will make all the women here go, oh noes, you're right, here, take all our stuff??

Using Jane Fae, lifelong campaigner for the legalisation of extreme porn, as their pedlar in chief??

Deluded isn't the word.

Brainworm · 07/10/2025 06:02

The situation would improved for everyone if there was an acknowledgment that humans create narratives around events, which can help or hinder our quality of life and are open to change.

Single sex provision is legal when considered a proportionate means to achieve a legitimate aim. Viewing this as nothing more than a provision targeted to support a specific vulnerable group is a healthy narrative for everyone. Viewing it as a deliberate act of oppression against a subset of males is a damaging narrative for that subset.

When females present in ways that are often coded as male (e.g clothes, hairstyles, gait), a healthy narrative to hold is that it is quite likely that some people, who are making incomplete judgments based on presentation may, benignly, mistake you for a male. It is unhealthy to build or hold a narrative that this is anything other than a predictable mistake that is simply rectified by stating you are female, they’ve wrongly sexed you.

15 or so years ago, my work as a psychologist largely comprised of exploring, with patients, the meaning they gave to events in their lives. We explored plausible alternative explanations and the difference these had on their wellbeing and relationships. Today, many people are very wedded to ‘their truth’ and suggest that questioning it is fundamentally wrong or harmful. It is somewhat ironic that the harm and damage is arising from ‘their truth’ and their quality of life would improve significantly if they amended it.

The linked document provides a library of stories that are harming those who own them. It would be so simple to reduce or remove the distress the article sets out to showcase.

BellissimoGecko · 07/10/2025 06:50

Any data coming from TransActusl will be highly biased, so you need to take it with a huge pinch of salt.

Women and girls deserve single sex spaces, so trans people will just have to deal with it and use loos, etc. appropriate to their sex. Y’all.

Oncemoreunderthebridge · 07/10/2025 06:53

All these males who think they will be outed if they use a unisex toilet....has it not occurred to them that if they really did "pass", then nobody would be challenging them in the ladies. The fact is they dont pass and women have had enough of kowtowing to them.

PermanentTemporary · 07/10/2025 07:06

I grew up in Kent and miss the word ‘yourn’ which was like a contraction of ‘your one’ but a bit more flexible than that. Apparently you also hear it in some areas of Appalachia.

It would be good to hear about any actions men are taking to help their transwoman colleagues adjust to this clarification of the law. I can think of a few single stall toilets at work that could be desexed.

Neemie · 07/10/2025 07:12

Violent, aggressive, perverted men created the need for single sex spaces. Go and remonstrate with them.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/10/2025 07:31

Datun · 07/10/2025 01:57

The entitlement of these men is off the scale.

Up until now they have managed to force people, largely through fear, to walk on eggshells around them and comply with their every demand. All to the detriment of women.

And now the OP fondly imagines that massive tantrums and toy throwing will make all the women here go, oh noes, you're right, here, take all our stuff??

Using Jane Fae, lifelong campaigner for the legalisation of extreme porn, as their pedlar in chief??

Deluded isn't the word.

Agreed. Men with an interest in extreme porn showcase why women & girls want and need single sex spaces away from them.

FrippEnos · 07/10/2025 07:50

Isn't it interesting in how all of the trans people pass as the opposite sex (even with out hormones or surgery) yet butch "cis lesbians" don't.

DeanElderberry · 07/10/2025 07:54

I got as far as the middle aged woman swearing at another woman with children and decided the problem is that she (sweary woman) has no manners.

Most of us learned as we grew out of toddlerhood that we have to adapt our behavior in order to live with other people. It's terribly dull of them not to bend to our every whim, but there it is.

CatchingtheCat · 07/10/2025 08:11

So pages of men saying they are sad that they are not allowed to destroy single sex spaces or harass women by using them as non-consenting participants in their sexual fetish any more, or get challenged when they try to do so? Plus the odd woman being challenged because women can no longer trust that men will stay out of their spaces?

DeanElderberry · 07/10/2025 08:20

Yes, lots of men who have not progressed beyond a toddler level of social interaction and the occasional alleged woman allegedly similarly developmentally challenged.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/10/2025 08:32

FrippEnos · 07/10/2025 07:50

Isn't it interesting in how all of the trans people pass as the opposite sex (even with out hormones or surgery) yet butch "cis lesbians" don't.

It is, isn’t it.