Civil service union’s turmoil over toilets for transgender staff

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I don't see this shared yet:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/cbe30ef3-a588-410b-8c7d-4e9912890120?shareToken=5e5dba6cda7af4c2df5ae68c361e8edb

Reckon Nige is going to amend the EQA do you?

or is it more likely the GRA is repealed?

I know which I’d put money on….

Which slurs you have seen here would you ban?

Good question. How about you clarify exactly what slurs the mods should ban, @BeeSourianteAgain

Im guessing it won't be "cis".
Although it can be useful to see who uses that word and judge accordingly.

I see someone's bored again this morning.

No, that’s very clearly not what I’m saying.

According to the 1992 building regulations the number of toilets for any premises that were subject to the Factories Act 1961 has to be 1 per 25 men, and 1 per 25 women. The number of toilets in all other premises has to be “sufficient”.

You are in this and another thread making a lot of straw man obviously incorrect obviously goady suggestions as to what I’m saying and challenging me to justify them. I don’t know why but it’s clearly not done in good faith. I may not respond to you further.

I think the best legislative outcome is to remove any suggestion that trans-identifying people have a right to keep their sex secret. I’m not sure there is any such right at the moment but it is often claimed (under the guise of you can’t do that because it will “out” me).

All issues of rights and equalities are solved when people can be forced to confirm their sex.

I have never seen any cogent explanation why someone’s sex should be so private a matter that it can be concealed in a legislative universe that distinguishes between men and women in various important ways.

No reason whatsoever for the UK to betray women by amending the Equality Act 2010 to allow trans-identified men into our single-sex-spaces, services and sports. Just because other countries have allowed themselves to be manipulated or browbeaten by mostly male activists into favouring trans identities over natal sex, is no reason for this country to do the same.

As for 'outing', if we are being honest in our debate, passing is very largely in the eye of the individual before a mirror, rather than in the eye of the beholder. Humans have a highly developed ability to recognise the sex of others, which has been honed by many millennia of evolution as a survival trait. There are so many clues which can't simply be disguised by clothes and hair.

On this and the other thread you saying what the law should be interpreted as while the HSE has a webpage is telling the general public that a workplace has to have a minimum number

https://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/toilets.htm

The HSE staff involved in enforcing the law clearly should to have some legal basis for putting a number on "sufficient" otherwise its foolish for them publish the numbers or to seek an enforcement notice.

However the page fails to say how they came up with their numbers.

All I am doing is trying to source where the numbers came from. Its not personal to you or some kind of challange its trying to find the Act or SI or court case which resulted in the number ratio.