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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Violent threats to GC women and why they're important

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MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 03:42

I'm at uni & try and raise GC issues quietly with people likely to respond. Recently, I've been trying to explain to a male acquaintance how serious the abuse is that GC women have been through.

I showed him the website 'TERF is a slur' and similar. He thought it was vile & is GC himself, however he didn't seem to fully understand how serious that kind of stuff is. He argued that there are all kinds of antisocial weirdos online who throw vile threats around & that also a lot of trolls say exaggeratedly horrible stuff just to get a reaction, and that both types are rarely dangerous IRL.

He also argued that male public figures get trolled as much as women but that it's presented as more of a threat when it happens to women. He argued that men often banter via insults etc & male-heavy online spaces like gaming are full of violent/abusive messages, so male figures are more likely to shrug off trolling & perhaps report less.

Frankly this sounded manosphere-y almost to me though I didn' say it. I don't think women' fear of trolling is bc of thin skins- women face tangible harm irl from men, esp outspoken women.

I want to challenge this, and I think it's important to raise awareness more widely. What evidence do we have that the online abuse is not just weird trolls but has affected the public sphere?

I know there was the horrible murder at Michfest. Then physical threats to Posie Parker in Oz at rallies. What other instances of TRA violence spilling over into real life are there?

Obvs the recent terrible shootings in America are evidence of trans ideology & people related to it having radicalising effects. But I'm thinking more of instances in UK & involving GC women who've spoken out.

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CleopatraSelene · 03/10/2025 17:18

ThisPeppyGreenCritic · 03/10/2025 17:16

An interesting idea (and I do take slight affront to the presumption I'm male (although, interestingly, would that really matter? Can men ever be true feminists despite not having our lived experience? Maybe that's worth a separate thread?)), but I don't think it really holds any water.

I've no doubt that the technical wizards at MNHQ are able to compare the logins of myself, Howse, Christinapple, and ButterflyHatch and will see that we are really, really not the same person.

No, no, I didn't mean you. I meant Howseit, Christina & Butterfly etc

quixote9 · 03/10/2025 17:26

NebulousSadTimes · 01/10/2025 18:09

I agree rape is a much bigger threat for wen, but there is evidence the 'one in 6' statistic is incorrect.

It certainly is in my family. It's four out of four with us.

This.

Which also reminds me of my own personal little sample of six friends. I don't know how the subject came up so regularly that year when we were all in our early twenties, but one after the other, I heard that every single one of them EVERY SINGLE ONE had survived rape. None had reported it. (Because why? Just about goes without saying.)

The one in six number is for one of the less-affected populations: middle class women. In poor and/or minority communities it's more like one in three lifetime risk.

Further, one piece of actual evidence: hospital statistics on post-rape pregnancies. Rape doesn't result in pregnancy nearly as often as sex where the woman is interested for the simple reason that the latter is likelier to happen around ovulation. Given the random timing of rape, the chances of landing right in the brief window when fertilization can occur results in about a 1% chance of pregnancy. Multiply the number of those pregnancies that show up in hospital records by the likely number of rapes that had to happen in that community to produce that number. The result, again, is a number around one in four lifetime risk for women.

SinnerBoy · 05/10/2025 11:03

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon isn't interested in protecting women and girls. If he were, he wouldn't have beaten his wife up. He would also not have backed his many associates convicted of CSA, DV and rape, eventually disowning them, or pretending he didn't know them, after they've been convicted.

He's using it as an excuse for his covert racism, pretending it's only Muslims he has a problem with.

NebulousSadTimes · 05/10/2025 12:33

Further, one piece of actual evidence: hospital statistics on post-rape pregnancies. Rape doesn't result in pregnancy nearly as often as sex where the woman is interested for the simple reason that the latter is likelier to happen around ovulation. Given the random timing of rape, the chances of landing right in the brief window when fertilization can occur results in about a 1% chance of pregnancy. Multiply the number of those pregnancies that show up in hospital records by the likely number of rapes that had to happen in that community to produce that number. The result, again, is a number around one in four lifetime risk for women.

And how many of those pregnancies are noted as resulting from rape in the medical records? I know mine wasn't.

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