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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kamala Harris says women should have sports!

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fromorbit · 24/09/2025 07:31

The biggest Democrat name to come out openly and say women should have their own sports however clearly she is still very confused.

In her new book, “107 Days,” Harris also expressed frustration, in hindsight, for not pushing back on the Trump campaign’s ad that focused on transgender athletes.
“Why didn’t I punch back harder?” she questioned.
That television ad, which ran during prime time sporting events including football and the World Series last year, claimed “Kamala was for they/them. President Trump is for you.” Harris argued that the pronoun that really mattered was “we,” as in “we the people.” But while she argued that “transgender people are Americans, with the same rights we all have, to liberty, equality, the pursuit of happiness and equal protection under the law,” she said the ad did misconstrue her stance on transgender athletes in women’s sports.
“The ad also said that I supported ‘biological men competing against our girls in their sports.’ That's not my position,” she continued.
“I agree with the concerns expressed by parents and players that we have to take into account biological factors such as muscle mass and unfair athletic advantage when we determine who plays on which teams, especially in contact sports,” Harris clarified. “With goodwill and common sense, I believe we can come up with ways to do this, without vilifying and demonizing children.”
https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/politics/2025/09/22/harris-reflects--reveals-regrets-of-her--107-days--as-the-democratic-nominee

We know why Harris didn't say anything because she would have been cancelled for saying women were real in any way.

However Harris also said in the book she was right about paying for sex changes for criminals.

Harris concedes that the Trump campaign was right to think they had "landed on a winning message," but she doesn't think the ad was a "knockout punch" that propelled Trump to victory. This was merely the "conventional wisdom" among pundits and "middle-aged men" who "watch a lot of sports," she writes, describing a huge chunk of the American electorate that Democrats have deliberately ignored for years.

"I do not regret my decision to follow my protective instincts," Harris writes. "I do regret not giving even more attention to how we might mitigate Trump's attacks." Her campaign's internal testing found that the most effective rebuttal to the "they/them" ad was to accuse Trump of lying and quickly change the subject to price gouging.

Harris explains that at the time of the interview—several weeks before she dropped out of the Democratic primary in 2019—she was eager to placate liberal activists in California who accused her of being insufficiently pro-trans. That's why she bragged about changing state policy to ensure that "every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access to the medical care that they desired and needed" in the name of "civil rights," "justice," and "humanity."

The failed candidate goes on to say that she feels a "deep connection" with the transgender community and is friends with the parents of "transgender kids." Harris envisions herself as a "protector," which is why she defended the rights of illegal immigrants to receive taxpayer-funded sex changes. "There was no way I was going to go against my very nature and turn on transgender people right when they were being so intensely and intentionally vilified," Harris writes. "I was aware of the weight of my voice and had no intention of adding to their burden."
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/harris-has-no-regrets-about-standing-up-for-transgender-inmates/

Obviously this is inconsistent nonsense. Yet it shows how much things have changed. If Harris said this last year it would have been huge. Now it is hardly discussed very few news articles on it.

I think major Democrats are going to backtrack on sports, while trying to keep rapists in women's prisons and other arguably worse things.

The TAs are losing. Bit by bit the fight back to say women and men both exist is gaining ground. The Terfs were right!

Harris reflects, reveals regrets of her '107 Days' as the Democratic nominee

“Why were we feeling so confident in a race that had never shifted out of toss-up territory?” she questioned

https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/politics/2025/09/22/harris-reflects--reveals-regrets-of-her--107-days--as-the-democratic-nominee

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RedToothBrush · 24/09/2025 11:19

Floisme · 24/09/2025 09:54

I’m not in the US so happy to be corrected by more knowledgeable posters but I’d have thought Kamala Harris would be viewed as an irrelevance now within the Democrat Party?

Maybe in 20 years time she’ll be able to reinvent herself as a ‘wise old stateswoman’ but I’d be surprised if any Democrat with any influence would take her seriously right now, however unfair that might be on KH.

There seems to still be a considerable level of support for Harris going for President again at the next election.

Which is almost as delusional as saying men can be women.

ThatBlackCat · 24/09/2025 11:36

Yet she herself chose to send Dylan Mulvaney a card congratulating him for cosplaying as a woman for 12 months, when she was VP. She didn't have to do that, she wasn't running at that point. She chose to do that. She was full on transmaiden.

And she still thinks trans people were being "intensely and intentionally vilified" when they weren't. Males were being vilified for risking women and girls lives in sport and in our spaces. Not 'trans people'. Trans men were not being vilified at all. That should give her and those like her the HINT that it was never about 'trans people', but about the MALE sex.

“With goodwill and common sense, I believe we can come up with ways to do this, without vilifying and demonizing children.”

As Martina Navratilova has said, repeatedly, they tried this. Those like her and others who are former and current professional players tried. But there is not...one...single....way to make it fair to the female sex by including males. Not one. The insurmountable advantages males have, especially post-puberty, are well and truly insurmountable. The only fair way is to have all males play on the male team. That includes transwomen. There is NO other way. Yet transwomen won't accept it. So we are at a stalemate.

And if she is so sure that males shouldn't play on female teams, why didn't she stop Biden from changing Title IX?
And why didn't she pull her Democrat colleagues into line, like Senator Warren and talk with them before the recent vote on it this year? She is paying lip service and is lying.

Floisme · 24/09/2025 12:07

RedToothBrush · 24/09/2025 11:19

There seems to still be a considerable level of support for Harris going for President again at the next election.

Which is almost as delusional as saying men can be women.

I find that bizarre and depressing but thanks!

YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/09/2025 12:43

I thought the sight of that man in the boxing ring beating the crap out of a woman, who has been proved to be a biological male since, might spur politicians like her to change their tack but they clung to it.

WimbledonWhites · 24/09/2025 14:35

But it is also a monument to a world view — elite, entitled, identity-obsessed liberalism — that keeps failing for reasons it is simply incapable of understanding, because few things are more blinding than a sense of superior virtue.

Thanks for the share token @Igneococcus
This nails it.

MetricMs · 24/09/2025 14:39

LadyQuackBeth · 24/09/2025 08:06

I don't think she does, I read it as wanting to allow people after a period of time, testosterone suppression maybe, some sort of parallel work around with multiple prizes....

If you want women's sports female only, there are really easy ways to say that. "Finding a way to do that," is right in "it's oh so complicated," territory.

This ☝️

I am quite sure that Kamala would still be happy to find a way for men to compete in women’s sports.

*edited for spelling

Merrymouse · 24/09/2025 15:07

Trump clearly says whatever shit comes into his head as he says it, but as long as the Democrats communicate that that they believe people can change sex or that a man is a woman, they are telling the electorate that it's 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other.

Merrymouse · 24/09/2025 15:10

ThatBlackCat · 24/09/2025 11:36

Yet she herself chose to send Dylan Mulvaney a card congratulating him for cosplaying as a woman for 12 months, when she was VP. She didn't have to do that, she wasn't running at that point. She chose to do that. She was full on transmaiden.

And she still thinks trans people were being "intensely and intentionally vilified" when they weren't. Males were being vilified for risking women and girls lives in sport and in our spaces. Not 'trans people'. Trans men were not being vilified at all. That should give her and those like her the HINT that it was never about 'trans people', but about the MALE sex.

“With goodwill and common sense, I believe we can come up with ways to do this, without vilifying and demonizing children.”

As Martina Navratilova has said, repeatedly, they tried this. Those like her and others who are former and current professional players tried. But there is not...one...single....way to make it fair to the female sex by including males. Not one. The insurmountable advantages males have, especially post-puberty, are well and truly insurmountable. The only fair way is to have all males play on the male team. That includes transwomen. There is NO other way. Yet transwomen won't accept it. So we are at a stalemate.

And if she is so sure that males shouldn't play on female teams, why didn't she stop Biden from changing Title IX?
And why didn't she pull her Democrat colleagues into line, like Senator Warren and talk with them before the recent vote on it this year? She is paying lip service and is lying.

I wonder if part of the problem is that believing that you can be anything you want to be is embedded in the liberal American Psyche in a way that it isn't in other cultures?

namechangedjustforthisthreadtoday · 24/09/2025 17:16

Good grief. This is SO SIMPLE.

Saying no ≠ vilifying and demonizing.

No one is "vilifying and demonizing" anyone (well, obviously TRAs are doing plenty of both, but never mind that). No one is proposing that TIM attempting to gain access to female sports be stripped naked and subjected to shame circle on live TV FFS.

In what other scenario does asserting a legal and justifiable barrier to access lead to hyperbolic nonsense like this?

CliantheLang · 24/09/2025 17:38

Trump clearly says whatever shit comes into his head as he says it...

Yes, and we find it quite refreshing.

HermioneWeasley · 24/09/2025 17:54

I detest her. Spineless trans maiden who did nothing but spew word salad

TheKeatingFive · 24/09/2025 17:55

Merrymouse · 24/09/2025 15:10

I wonder if part of the problem is that believing that you can be anything you want to be is embedded in the liberal American Psyche in a way that it isn't in other cultures?

I agree that not engaging with reality is a bit of a weakness of the left

YourAmplePlumPoster · 25/09/2025 08:44

The left alliance with hardline Conservative followers of Islam makes them totally unacceptable. The Greta flotilla are already at odds because of the presence of the alphabet people on board.

Delphinium20 · 25/09/2025 20:35

I'm an American Democrat, and we warned her, repeatedly. SHE.DID.NOT.LISTEN.

And as bad as the Dems have been on this topic, my opinion is Trump is much, much worse overall for the world and our country in many other areas. I think I'm more angry at my party than the middle of the road people who voted for Trump or stood out the election. We had an easier way to win if we simply recognized that 80/20 percent of people don't think boys belong in girls' sports, but Biden and his crew, including Harris, went all in on the gender nonsense. They gave away the election. Granted, on not just this topic (immigration too) but also trying to hold on to the Biden/Harris duo instead of running a primary, which would have been the democratic thing to do.

I'm still angry with them. So, so angry.

From Kara Dansky today on X:

https://x.com/KDansky/status/1971211573080535063

This seems like as good a time as any to remind
@KamalaHarris
that I published an open letter to her in 2024, asking her to say out loud at the
@DNC
that a woman is an adult human female.

TheKeatingFive · 25/09/2025 21:55

Delphinium20 · 25/09/2025 20:35

I'm an American Democrat, and we warned her, repeatedly. SHE.DID.NOT.LISTEN.

And as bad as the Dems have been on this topic, my opinion is Trump is much, much worse overall for the world and our country in many other areas. I think I'm more angry at my party than the middle of the road people who voted for Trump or stood out the election. We had an easier way to win if we simply recognized that 80/20 percent of people don't think boys belong in girls' sports, but Biden and his crew, including Harris, went all in on the gender nonsense. They gave away the election. Granted, on not just this topic (immigration too) but also trying to hold on to the Biden/Harris duo instead of running a primary, which would have been the democratic thing to do.

I'm still angry with them. So, so angry.

From Kara Dansky today on X:

https://x.com/KDansky/status/1971211573080535063

This seems like as good a time as any to remind
@KamalaHarris
that I published an open letter to her in 2024, asking her to say out loud at the
@DNC
that a woman is an adult human female.

Edited

It is very frustrating that they just handed Trump this open goal.

I don't think I will ever understand that.

TempestTost · 25/09/2025 23:32

Beowulfa · 24/09/2025 11:16

I don't think they'll ever understand. They only see this demographic as numbers on a spreadsheet that they have to pretend to care about once every 4 years or so. They don't view them as actual people who they'd chat to on public transport or invite round for a cuppa.

I always thought that for all his many and obvious flaws, Johnson was very good at turning his poshness to affable charm when needed, and probably saw a room full of tradies as an interesting challenge, involving rude jokes and taking the piss out of himself. Most politicians can't hide their horror at having to interact with the type of people who watch football, put flags up for the World Cup and have a china plate of Princess Diana on their sideboard.

I think this is something a lot of Labour people did not comprehend - they thought it was crazy wc people would like BJ, because how could they like such a toff. And obviously he must despise them.

I suppose maybe that is a kind of projection?

It's very similar with Trump too. WC people don't hate him because he's rich, which a lot of mcps struggle to understand.

SquirrelosaurusSoShiny · 25/09/2025 23:57

I feel utter fury towards the left. They created the perfect conditions for the far right to thrive. And I mean the actual far right, not biological realists and people who think we are entitled to defend our borders.

TempestTost · 26/09/2025 00:05

What strikes me from reading the excerpt from the book is how politically deluded she seems to be over all.

This bit about paying for prisoners and illegal migrants sex change surgeries - like really? She can't see why people struggling to get by have an issue with their taxes paying for cosmetic surgeries for people who are not citizens and by all rights should be deported? Why not just pay for them for people throughout the whole world?

Hilary Clinton's book about her loss was very similar, the lack of connection to the public is stark.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 26/09/2025 09:03

TempestTost · 26/09/2025 00:05

What strikes me from reading the excerpt from the book is how politically deluded she seems to be over all.

This bit about paying for prisoners and illegal migrants sex change surgeries - like really? She can't see why people struggling to get by have an issue with their taxes paying for cosmetic surgeries for people who are not citizens and by all rights should be deported? Why not just pay for them for people throughout the whole world?

Hilary Clinton's book about her loss was very similar, the lack of connection to the public is stark.

Yes quite. The fact both Hillary and Kamala surrounded themselves with vacuous celebrities like Beyonce and Oprah just enraged the voters even more.

fromorbit · 26/09/2025 09:17

Mail - Kamala Harris risks fury from trans fans as she reveals her view on biological men in women's sports

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15126127/kamala-harris-transgender-sports-concerns.html?

The book continued to be panned, but it is often the attitude towards homosexuality rather than trans stuff which indicates things.

David Christopher Kaufman
Kamala Harris’s book tour is a car crash for the woke Left
Her revelations about why she passed over Pete Buttigieg and Josh Shapiro for her running mate expose the perversities of identity politics
https://archive.is/rKJOJ#

Kamala Harris says she has 'concerns' about trans women in sports

The former vice president clearly stated in her new book, 107 Days', that she agrees with parents and athletes who are worried about transgender boys being allowed to compete in girls' sports.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15126127/kamala-harris-transgender-sports-concerns.html

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TheKeatingFive · 26/09/2025 09:26

YourAmplePlumPoster · 26/09/2025 09:03

Yes quite. The fact both Hillary and Kamala surrounded themselves with vacuous celebrities like Beyonce and Oprah just enraged the voters even more.

I found it extraordinary that Kamala spent SO much money/energy chasing celebrity endorsements for this election.

It started to feel like she'd lost all sight of what an election should be about or what voters care about.

Again, I still can't wrap my head around it. Were her political instincts just that bad? But what about those advising her?

YourAmplePlumPoster · 26/09/2025 09:31

There was a nauseating interview with Drew Barrymore who droolingly said "Kamala, we want you to be our Mamala."

TheKeatingFive · 26/09/2025 09:35

YourAmplePlumPoster · 26/09/2025 09:31

There was a nauseating interview with Drew Barrymore who droolingly said "Kamala, we want you to be our Mamala."

Exactly, like what kind of bollocks is this? 🫠

Perhaps these people genuinely have no understanding how normal people operate.

Merrymouse · 26/09/2025 09:46

TheKeatingFive · 26/09/2025 09:26

I found it extraordinary that Kamala spent SO much money/energy chasing celebrity endorsements for this election.

It started to feel like she'd lost all sight of what an election should be about or what voters care about.

Again, I still can't wrap my head around it. Were her political instincts just that bad? But what about those advising her?

Didn't she do really badly in the 2020 primaries?

Even early in Biden's presidency, I got the impression that she wasn't that popular, and that there was concern about her replacing him.

It's easy to say with hindsight, but if she wasn't a good candidate in the first place, it's not surprising that her campaign was a bit of a mess, given that she had such a short lead time.

TheKeatingFive · 26/09/2025 10:36

Merrymouse · 26/09/2025 09:46

Didn't she do really badly in the 2020 primaries?

Even early in Biden's presidency, I got the impression that she wasn't that popular, and that there was concern about her replacing him.

It's easy to say with hindsight, but if she wasn't a good candidate in the first place, it's not surprising that her campaign was a bit of a mess, given that she had such a short lead time.

Yes that's true

They dithered so long over Biden they didn't give themselves any time to find a candidate and run a campaign.

Extraordinarily badly handled on every level.

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