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Retired police officer visited by police for missing the A off Freda Wallace's first name

115 replies

Charabanc · 06/09/2025 19:31

JFK, I would say you couldn't make this up, but you could. In fact you don't have to. We know it's been happening.

The usual suspects are involved. And hopefully, after Glinner's court case this week, their names and activities will become more well-known.

The former superintendent said police informed her that the home visit was related to a handful of social media posts about a transgender activist named Freda Wallace.

Ms Larkam had called the activist Fred, using the “dead” male name of the now transgender woman, and this act had been reported to the police.
...
It is believed that Ms Larkman was reported by a disgraced transgender police officer named Lynsay Watson – a figure with a history of urging the authorities to pursue criminal investigations of people who are critical of gender ideology.

Watson, born Alex Horwood, is believed to have also reported Linehan to the police over several social media posts last week.

https://archive.is/xzitf

ETA: Gah flipping MN link rendering! Got there in the end.

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AnSolas · 06/09/2025 19:52

Are the police forces making tactical decision to force a crisis to prompt the removal of any instruction to act on hurtie feels?

How politically stuuupid would an officer be to think that choosing to changing someones name is a criminal court case in the making when the author is ex-police in good standing in the community which she served.

lifeturnsonadime · 06/09/2025 19:59

Bloody hell.

Is shortening names now a hate crime?

I cannot believe the police have acted on that complaint.

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2025 19:59

Have you seen the context of why this all blew up btw?

Its still online to check, but heres the screen shot.

She then tweeted a line to a story about Rosie Duffield a couple of days later saying it was timely, there was another exchange which again she laughed and then he blocked her.

Its really a report about absoluetely nothing and the context of how it blew up!!!

The police are bonkers.

Retired police officer visited by police for missing the A off Freda Wallace's first name
Boiledbeetle · 06/09/2025 20:06

Honestly if a bloke has decided he is a woman and doesnt want dead naming then maybe he should choose something like Mary or Susan instead of just adding a letter to the end of his bloke name.

SigourneyHoward · 06/09/2025 20:15

What the actual.... I wonder whether our champion of reporting to the police (but only on one side) was involved...

JellySaurus · 06/09/2025 20:16

These views drew comment from a social media account called SEEN Police Official Open Public Network, which posted messages saying that its operator had asked South Wales Police to look into Larkman’s “telephone calls and emails”.

Is this trans-IDed man also pretending to be a Gender Critical account?

SinnerBoy · 06/09/2025 20:29

Good grief, this is extremely sinister, isn't it? Dead naming isn't illegal, the cops really need their heads knocking together - nationally. They're not the strong arm men for the damned Trannyban.

Helleofabore · 06/09/2025 20:43

Is Watson escalating for a particular reason or just because Watson has got away with it a few times now, Watson is just trying whatever?

When will the police think it will be appropriate to start investigating this person.

Rightsraptor · 06/09/2025 20:49

I believe the police considered it fell under the vague term 'malicious communication'. What exactly do they mean by malicious? I can't help feeling that they don't think it means what I think it means.

I have one of those names with a couple of different spellings, lots of us have. Admittedly changing the spelling of my name wouldn't make you think I was a bloke, but should I consider it malicious next time someone misspells it? We all know Fred's a bloke, it's as plain as the nose on his face: he can't seriously think the dropping of his desired 'a' is giving any game away.

Igneococcus · 06/09/2025 20:52

If I'd report to the police every time my (foreign) names get misspelled they.d never do anything else.

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2025 20:53

Boiledbeetle · 06/09/2025 20:06

Honestly if a bloke has decided he is a woman and doesnt want dead naming then maybe he should choose something like Mary or Susan instead of just adding a letter to the end of his bloke name.

A woman named Freda, in all likelihood has been nicknamed Fred at some point during her life, which makes it even more bonkers. As a result it can be a sign of affection and just about as far as you can get from being hateful!

I have a friend is known at work by a male nickname as she has a female name of this type. She was telling me, shes had colleagues wonder if she'd transitioned and were too scared to ask! (She's not. She looks obviously female too). Its just the name shes had since a teen.

lifeturnsonadime · 06/09/2025 21:03

I have a name that can be fairly tenuously shortened to a male name and my best friends have called me by a male name since my teens!

Malicious communications my arse!

Cailleach1 · 06/09/2025 21:08

Amazing. Maybe if the police are in touch with F Wallace, they might remind him (as he will always be a man as per the SC judgement, no human changes sex) that men flashing and exposing themselves (even with a single, saggy testicle) being a sex offence? It is most certainly a case of ‘alarm and distress’ for someone to witness such an ugly sight.

Maybe they’ve already had a word. Knowing how eager all the police forces are to stamp out sex crimes. Ok, that was a little sarcastic.

Helleofabore · 06/09/2025 21:12

Surely this has reached vexatious level by now?

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2025 21:15

In the words of the Baroness to Sir Mark Rowley are as applicable to Swansea Police as they were to the Met:

"In the meantime, must all reported incidents be recorded as a crime before anyone engages their adult brain?"

"On this occasion the incidents were reported by formr police constable Lynsay Watson; a transgender males dismissed by gross misconduct by Leicestershire Police as he waged a campaign of harassment against people with the legally protected belief that human beings cannot change sex. Your colleagues have allowed themselves to be exploited as tools in that continuing and orchestrated campaign"

SionnachRuadh · 06/09/2025 21:19

I mean burglary has been pretty much decriminalised in London. Presumably the rozzers are too busy responding to trivial complaints from Watson and his mates.

Cailleach1 · 06/09/2025 21:22

There obviously needs to be a root and branch clean up. Also, policy to stop harassment (mostly of women) because of these absurd and vexatious complaints by these disturbed men. A ‘mani pulite’. Clean hands from the cronyism and what seems to be corruption of what is supposed to be a fair justice system.

edited: spelling mistake.

Justme56 · 06/09/2025 21:25

What a waste of police time and resources. I’m sure some of these people think there in some sort of witness protection scheme.

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2025 21:32

I think it probably counts a public order offence of harassment at this point yes.

I think Glinner got charged under the Public Order Act 1986 if memory serves (I need to check)

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/contents
This is the act.

4A Intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—

(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.

(2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the person who is harassed, alarmed or distressed is also inside that or another dwelling.

(3)It is a defence for the accused to prove—

(a)that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or

(b)that his conduct was reasonable.

BUT there is also this paragraph:

29JProtection of freedom of expression

Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.

So the police might want to reflect on this section a little.

Also I think we are straying into perverting the course of justice with some of this stuff too.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-justice-offences

The offence of perverting the course of justice is committed when an accused:

  • does an act or series of acts;
  • which has or have a tendency to pervert; and
  • which is or are intended to pervert;
  • the course of public justice.
The course of justice must be in existence at the time of the act(s). The course of justice starts when:
  • an event has occurred, from which it can reasonably be expected that an investigation will follow; or
  • investigations which could/might bring proceedings have actually started; or
  • proceedings have started or are about to start.
The course of justice refers to civil justice as well criminal justice. In R v Cotter and Others [2002] EWCA Crim 1033 it was held that where the prosecution case is that a false allegation has been made, all that is required is that the person making the false allegation intended that it should be taken seriously by the police. It is not necessary to prove that she/he intended that anyone should actually be arrested. ^^ The offence of perverting the course of justice is sometimes referred to as “attempting to pervert the course of justice”. It does not matter whether or not the acts result in a perversion of the course of justice: the offence is committed when acts tending and intended to pervert a course of justice are done. The words "attempting to" should not appear in the charge. It is charged contrary to common law, not the Criminal Attempts Act 1981: R v Williams [1990] 10 WLUK 130. Some examples of what may amount to a charge of perverting the course of justice include:
  • causing a person to be arrested or to fall under suspicion;
  • materially affecting proceedings e.g. obtaining bail when it might not have been obtained, receiving a sentence which might not otherwise have been passed;
  • persuading, or attempting to persuade, by intimidation, harm or otherwise, a witness not to give evidence, to alter their evidence or to give false evidence
  • interference with jurors with a view to influencing their verdict;
  • false alibis and interference with evidence or exhibits;
  • giving false information, or agreeing to give false information, to the police with a view to frustrating a police inquiry; for example, lying as to who was driving when a road traffic accident occurred;
  • lending a driving licence to another to produce to the police following a notice to produce, thereby avoiding an offence of driving whilst disqualified being discovered;
  • agreeing to give false evidence;
  • concealing or destroying evidence or providing a false alibi;
  • assisting others to evade arrest for a significant period of time.
LizzieSiddal · 06/09/2025 21:35

It makes me so angry that these complaints are taken so seriously when we have so many more serious incidents which get zero police attention! There needs to be an enquiry into who is pulling strings here.

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2025 21:41

I'm also liking the look of

Section 5 of Criminal Law Act 1967

5 Penalties for concealing offences or giving false information.

(1)Where a person has committed [F1a relevant offence], any other person who, knowing or believing that the offence or some [F2other relevant offence] has been committed, and that he has information which might be of material assistance in securing the prosecution or conviction of an offender for it, accepts or agrees to accept for not disclosing that information any consideration other than the making good of loss or injury caused by the offence, or the making of reasonable compensation for that loss or injury, shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for not more than two years.

(2)Where a person causes any wasteful employment of the police by knowingly making to any person a false report tending to show that an offence has been committed, or to give rise to apprehOension for the safety of any persons or property, or tending to show that he has information material to any police inquiry, he shall be liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for not more than six months or to a fine of not more than [F3level 4 on the standard scale] or to both.

(3)No proceedings shall be instituted for an offence under this section except by or with the consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions.

Oh btw, also worth noting down this one too whilst we are at it.

Section 51 of Criminal Law Act 1977

51 Bomb hoaxes.

(1)A person who—

(a)places any article in any place whatever; or

(b)dispatches any article by post, rail or any other means whatever of sending things from one place to another,

with the intention (in either case) of inducing in some other person a belief that it is likely to explode or ignite and thereby cause personal injury or damage to property is guilty of an offence.

In this subsection “article” includes substance.

(2)A person who communicates any information which he knows or believes to be false to another person with the intention of inducing in him or any other person a false belief that a bomb or other thing liable to explode or ignite is present in any place or location whatever is guilty of an offence.

(3)For a person to be guilty of an offence under subsection (1) or (2) above it is not necessary for him to have any particular person in mind as the person in whom he intends to induce the belief mentioned in that subsection.

(4)A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—

(a)on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding [F1six months] or to a fine not exceeding £1,000, or both;

(b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding [F1seven years].

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 06/09/2025 21:43

At this point the police are behaving with such utter derangement over this issue that you have to assume they're just loving the opportunity to stick the boot into women the moment a TRA so much as breathes in their direction

whenimnotcleaningwindows · 06/09/2025 21:45

If a woman reports repeated rapes it goes against her in Court.
I wonder why this isn't happening when a man does it?

whenimnotcleaningwindows · 06/09/2025 21:48

This, Linehan arrest and the ignoring of the genocide and continuing to arrest peaceful protesters... Police must be either doing this level of trivial detail to be vexatious to the Labour gov (and again proving Vance right - or maybe they love Farage, or both) or they are all completely idiotic. I'd weirdly prefer to think the former.

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2025 21:55

Looks like we really need a harassment conviction followed by a CBO (New ASBO) by the look of it.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/criminal-behaviour-orders

The provisions relating to the CBO are in Part 11, Chapter 1 of the Sentencing Act 2020 (the "Act"). The provisions came into force on 1 December 2020.
The CBO is an order on conviction, available following a conviction for any criminal offence in the Crown Court, magistrates' court or youth court.
A CBO:

  1. Prohibits the offender from doing anything described in the order (which might include a condition preventing specific acts which cause harassment, alarm or distress or preparatory acts which the offending history shows are likely to lead to offences (for example the individual entering a defined area);
  2. Requires the offender to do anything described in the order (for example, attendance at a course to educate offenders on alcohol and its effects).

Criminal Behaviour Orders | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/criminal-behaviour-orders

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