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American students are faking their wokeness, Justin Webb in the Times

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Igneococcus · 29/08/2025 14:13

I can't see this article by Justin Webb shared anywhere yet.

"A study released this month by the psychologists Forest Romm and Kevin Waldman suggests that a majority of American students are faking their wokeness. More than 1,400 students at two of the top universities in the US — Northwestern and Michigan — were asked whether they ever pretended to hold more progressive views than they truly endorsed to succeed professionally or socially: 88 per cent said they did. More than 80 per cent said they had submitted coursework that misrepresented their views in order to align with professors."
https://www.thetimes.com/article/a950479a-1878-4646-a552-0a650a47b1d6?shareToken=7c1c3266cd65f3258f9ed858ebe2cd02

Donald Trump didn’t start this quiet war on woke

Like his Republican Party takeover or social media use, the president’s attack on universities simply tapped into a growing mood

https://www.thetimes.com/article/a950479a-1878-4646-a552-0a650a47b1d6?shareToken=7c1c3266cd65f3258f9ed858ebe2cd02

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Shedmistress · 31/08/2025 03:46

Morningsleepin · 30/08/2025 12:41

What's the harm in reading the Communist Manifesto"? How can you be against Marx, if you haven't even read him?

Your response is the exact issue, well done!

whoboo · 31/08/2025 04:12

Shedmistress · 31/08/2025 03:46

Your response is the exact issue, well done!

Huh?

Kurkara · 31/08/2025 04:19

This was inspired by recent progressive shenanigans in the U.S. DH tells me my sense of humour is too obtuse for anyone else to enjoy it but if anyone will appreciate it I guess here is the place...

American students are faking their wokeness, Justin Webb in the Times
OldCrone · 31/08/2025 08:13

Shedmistress · 30/08/2025 10:22

When I went to Uni in the very late 90s [1998 I think] as an already mature student the very first book every humanities course had on their reading list was the Communist Manifesto. This has been going on for a long, long time.

I'm a scientist, so I have no idea what is to be expected on a humanities reading list, but this is a well-known political text, so it's not clear to me why its inclusion on a reading list is an issue. Can you explain? I don't seem to be the only one who's a bit puzzled by your comment.

HarperStern · 31/08/2025 08:29

Why can't anyone spell George Eliot? These are indeed dark times.

Academiccoward · 31/08/2025 10:04

Kurkara · 30/08/2025 12:38

I'd love to read your paper, @Academiccoward . I didn't get round to reading George Elliot until I was in my 40s and, based on the people who love her, thought I was in for a real treat. I've... struggled... and I wonder what it is I'm missing.

Oh, it's long gone. I wrote it over 40 years ago.

Kurkara · 01/09/2025 02:22

@Academiccoward I'm trying to do a discreet, private "thanks" for your reply to me, but the website won't play ball.
So, here is my public, thanks for responding! I'm still going to take the past existence of your paper as evidence that I'm not just dim.

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