Patients sue noted former Mass. General surgeon over gender surgeries they say he botched

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A Gender affirming surgeon is being sued in the US.

"Surgeon Curtis Cetrulo became a leading light of a cutting-edge program at Massachusetts General Hospital soon after it opened in 2018, crafting penises for transgender men — and helping plant a flag in Boston amid intensifying national competition for such procedures.
By then, Cetrulo was already well known in plastic surgery circles. He had led a Mass. General team two years earlier that completed the country’s first successful transplant of a penis, involving a 64-year-old man who had lost his penis to cancer.
For transgender patients, the surgeries he offered included a procedure called abdominal phalloplasty — using skin grafts from the abdomen to form a penis.
But now, two of his former patients are suing Cetrulo and Mass. General for medical malpractice, alleging the gender-reassignment operations he performed were experimental and unsupported by medical research. The lawsuits said he used an untested approach to abdominal phalloplasty that caused them severe pain, disfigurement, infections, and other complications — and led to even more surgery to correct the mistakes.
The patients also allege that Cetrulo did not adequately inform them of the risks of his approach."

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Trans rights is a movement that supports women and men's rights. That's because there are trans women AND trans men. No matter if you deny our gender or not it's still for men and women.

Detransitioners make up a tiny percentage of people who begin their transitions. I'm sorry you made a mistake but that doesnt give you the right to take away the treatment that is working for so many others.

I know almost no detransitioners, it's almost like we surround ourselves with people that are similar to us. I don't deny you exist, but you aren't the majority.

I am a woman and I'm not accepting discrimination.

I have been sexually assaulted and it was by a man. I have the same trauma that any other woman who's been a victim of SA has. I'm still not over it and it's been years.

They're not your spaces, their ALL women's spaces including Transsexual women's.

Sexual assault by a man is not proof of womanhood.

No, they're not, because "transexual women" are male.

It's the only way to be a "transexual woman".

Oh no
Not again

De-transitioners are surely arguing for better mental health care? Isn't that the best option?

Because males sexually assault boys and men as well as girls and women.

Jesus wept.

Male makes it clear that he will break the law.

I don't know why he expects anyone to be on his side.

you can say it till you’re blue in the face but it doesn’t make it true because a transwoman is always a male.

Not in the UK after the Supreme Court clarified the law in its judgment last April. Single-sex spaces refer to biological sex, not legal sex or gender.

Discrimination is being able to tell one type of thing apart from another. Female only facilities are female people; not male people. A woman is an adult human female. That is the definition...the world over.

You don't have the right to recalibrate the meaning of words which already have established meanings. This is what the Supreme Court recently established: 'Woman' is a biological category not an 'identity' category - whatever that is supposed to mean.

If you have to identify 'as' something it is very much suggestive that you are not actually that thing. 'As' is doing all the hard work of performance and role play.

If you identified 'with' women, rather than 'as' a woman you might have more compassion for women, rather than this aggressive, narcissisitic self entitlement

Oh dear…

Yes, violence and sexually assault are traumatic, but this still does not make you a woman.

Under the Equality Act 2010, the comparator for a male person with the protected characteristic of gender reassignment is a male person without that characteristic and here male refers to sex, not gender presentation.

Testosterone does cause vaginal and uterine atrophy. Buck Angel nearly died because his uterus became septic. This is why after about 5-10 years on T most trans men will need a hysterectomy.

If you want to see some of Cetrulo‘s handiwork and have a very strong stomach, the SRS thread on the Antipodean fruit farm is eye opening.. and horrifying.

Yes, male violence is a scourge. And men who claim to be women statistically commit at a greater percentage than the men who don't.

Hence the court cases asserting that men accessing female spaces is a violation of women's dignity privacy and safety.

You belong to the sex class who commit 98% of all sex crimes. And the gender class who, according to prison statistics, commit even more.

Stop your unlawful access to women's spaces.

No we don't, the 'detransitioners are a tiny percentage' is a myth based on an old study relying on detransitioners self reporting to their original clinics, the vast majority of us do not do so. That's where the old 1% regret stat came from.

I didn't go back to mine either, as I stated my original doctors think I'm one of their successes.
I switched doctors and endo, had them send my medical records to my new clinic when I moved towns and never told them about detransitioning.

You likely know more detransitioners than you think you do, most are very hesitant to tell trans people at all because a lot of detransitioners have been ostracised for it. We are not a small community, we are a quite community and that has us being mistaken for small.
I'm more 'stealth' now than when I was trans so the people I've met after detransition have no idea about my past including the all new trans people I've met since. Only the detransitioners I've come to know over the years and the trans people who stuck with me back during my transition and detransition know about it. Most of my old trans friends were quick to drop me the moment I started having doubts and halted transitioning so I do not tell any new trans people I meet or work with now.

You worry our existence threatens your access to medical transition and this is what leads to us being minimised and dismissed by the trans community. Currently most of the trans community are happy to let us be collateral damage within this broken system as long as they get want they want out of it. Many have nothing but contempt for us for speaking out, we are viewed as an inconvenience, an obstacle or a threat rather than people who have had their lives and bodies ruined by this system.

Like it or not the whole system needs an major investigation and overhaul, we're rapidly going to become too large to ignore any longer. Also the fact the vast majority are of detrans are girls and neurodivergent girls at that is indicative of a much bigger social issue that can no longer be overlooked.
This can't continue.

I do mean this genuinely but I think there's more we agree on here than disagree. I'm actually very pro gatekeeping and safeguards and hate how the modern transgender movement has turned trans people from a small group of transsexual people with real and genuine dysphoria to a "anyone can be trans" kind of thing. That's what's doing the harm. We do need to return to gatekeeping and return to safeguards to stop more people transitioning who were never suppose to.

Where I take issue is when people start talking about banning things entirely either for ages groups or types of surgery. For some transsexual men phallo is right for them. That option should remain available for them.

We do need to return to gatekeeping and return to safeguards to stop more people transitioning who were never suppose to.

Yep, well off you go to tell the rest of the trans umbrella this. Do pop back and let us know how you get on.

"Tell me, what is it you plan to do
with your one wild and precious life?"
Mary Oliver.

There are some male posters who turn up on here, who you just know in real life are pathetic, weak little weaselley males who just enjoy trying to intimidate and harass women. What a bloody waste of life. How wonderful and rich life can be, but here they are just choosing to spend it in such low, and pointless ways. Utterly pathetic.

Girls and women don't get phalloplasty, men do.

Oh dear...the delusions are neverending