The 'progressive left' - a vent.

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CassOle · 16/08/2025 18:55

Arrrrgggggggghhhhhh!

No, I don't want to join the Omnicause, thank you.

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zanahoria · 19/08/2025 23:57

Rubidium · 17/08/2025 13:24

I imagine Michael from this week's Dining Across The Divide in The Grauniad would nod along to this thread.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/aug/17/dining-across-the-divide-michael-sophia

The woman said she voted for The Workers Party, which is George Galloway's current ego trip

tobee · 20/08/2025 00:48

Does Sophia herself know what it means @Lins77 ? 🤔

I'm leftie and joined the Labour party originally in the 1980s. I'm an ex member now. Everything was Cold War orientated and seeing the USA as the big capitalist villain policing the world. Reagan and his era was a good figurehead to hate.

Now, with the advent of the internet and social media everyone has to be seen to nail their colours to one mast or the other. No nuance.

tobee · 20/08/2025 00:53

This is why (of course) the Palestinian flag waving. Palestine against Israel. Israel funded by the USA.
It’s not about who you like and support. It’s about who you don’t like.

MaturingCheeseball · 20/08/2025 14:53

When I was young everything was about The Holocaust, Anti-Semitism, Anti-Nazi etc etc. Now it seems perfectly acceptable to bash all Jews, downplay concentration camps and basically get back to the script of them being the traditional baddies. I see certain types saying “Oh, we only mean Zionists” but that’s not true - that twerp at Glastonbury had a lot to say about any Jewish person.

It’s all so binary - No Nuance Tolerated. And History is only there to shock, be mocked or best of all to be rewritten completely.

LidlAmaretto · 20/08/2025 15:10

TempestTost · 19/08/2025 10:36

Sometimes it does seem like for certain people who identify "left", it's more about the over-throwing than anything else.

It doesn't seem to occur to them to consider what will come next.

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Yes. 'My enemies enemy is my friend' except their 'enemy' is what is keeping them from being stoned to death for being Gay and has allowed them to live off Daddy's money and connections if they get arrested and end up with a criminal record for vandalising priceless artefacts! Not so much for the people who cant afford to be taken to Florence to see art and are now denied access to a museum while the painting is restored, or who don't have the luxury of living in the West so actually are stoned to death for being gay!

LidlAmaretto · 20/08/2025 15:15

Abhannmor · 19/08/2025 18:14

Denis Healey discovered - too late - that the IMF bailout was unnecessary. The Treasury had wildly over estimated the amount required to sort out public finances. But that's sort of their job ... they're always looking to cut spending.

The rising population wasn't relevant to
the failure of Right to Buy. What totally screwed it up was Thatcher's insisting that the resultant revenue could not be spent on building new houses to replace those sold. Instead that money must be used for current spending. Pissed away in other words Like the proceeds of privatisation in general. And it's not just foreign companies that own British utilities - foreign state bodies own them too , like SNCF the French national rail system.

Still I digress. None of the foregoing means anything to the lanyard people I expect....

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Yes. Anyone who is paying water rates to Thames Water to do nothing is topping up the Toronto State Governments occupational pension scheme quite nicely thank you very much!

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