Is Willoughby implying that transwomen are men?

[WallaceinAnderland]

Aside from the usual racism, what does this post mean?

So to India transwomen can clean but not pee and are therefore being discriminated against.

Only if he thinks they are male. As females are, of course, allowed to pee in the female toilets.

I've previously noticed that India does see India's self as male/a man, but presumably has a cognitive dissonance situation about it.

In the "a man can have a cervix' debate/debacle a couple of years ago, both India and David Lammy started going on about transwomen having a cervix (and India claimed to have one and offered to reveal it IIRC). Clearly betraying that they took "man" to mean a male, and that this related to a TW, who they see as men.

In fact, the TRA claim that a man can have a cervix is in relation to trans men (they are men according to gender ideology, but have cervix, ovaries etc). Like the claim that a woman can have a penis, which refers to TW.

I think it's interesting the way India often does this protests way too much and tries to prove points and slips up by revealing that reality is not far below the surface.

But he doesn't think they are male. He thinks they are female and should be allowed to pee in female toilets along with all the other women. He thinks that the reason they are not allowed to pee is not because they are male but because they are a certain group of women who are being discriminated against by not being allowed to pee where other women pee.

On another note, what's going on with his Bluesky account? Yesterday he was reposting loads of posts about the same bitcoin book, today he's reposting loads of the same post about Trump from about six accounts that have about 20 followers each?

But in between we had the post alluded to in this thread, which is very much him.

Not sure why my post was hidden 😆

All I was saying is that on "India Willoughby"'s Bluesky account there are multiple reposts of nonsense about Trump, bitcoin, and survivor scams. Like, multiple reposts of posts about the same thing, but from multiple accounts.

But in between that, there are the posts alluded to in this thread, which are obviously by Himdia. Odd.

Oh wait. Does mention of "Bitcoin" immediately trigger an automatic AI moderation? Fair enough.

It’s the issue of a sub set of women who were not born as such but have become so, (in his head)

The reference to Crow is trying to compare black women, who were allowed to clean white women's loos but not use them.

the failure in that comparator is that we would have to consider black women as a subset of white women, in order for this to work.

So it is de facto a racist way of looking at things whilst complaining about racism that occurred in the past, all at the same.

his comments are often the very essence of a thought terminating cliche

Where deeper examination of a potentially innocuous statement reveals a nonsense of headache proportions.

Let's not forget how he wanted to put barbed wire across the channel to stop desperate migrants risking their lives.
Funny how we're supposed to feel ashamed about jk Rowling's comments, but Willoughby is touted as a vulnerable saint.

Whoopsie - Willyboy has tripped himself up again there 🤭

The difference of course is that male cleaners can a)be identified easily and b)know they're male cleaners. Women can then either say to them 'please give me a moment to finish in here before you clean' or wait until they've finished - they're not faced with a bloke in a dress who refuses to get out because his womanly feelz means he's absolutely 100% entitled to be in there and he now feels unsafe because the mean lady told him to do one.

Windy could "imply" today was Friday and I'd still check the bloody calendar.

Well he fathered a child with his wife, so he knows better than anybody that he’s male.

It took me a minute to get it but I'm interpretating it as Male=Trans woman(a man). This individual can access women's toilets to clean but not pee.

There is no issue with women accessing women's toilets either to pee or clean so IW can logically only be refering to the male part of the sign.

It's almost seems like you can say TWAW as much as you like but when you apply logic it unravels 🤔

He thinks that the reason they are not allowed to pee is not because they are male but because they are a certain group of women who are being discriminated against by not being allowed to pee where other women pee.

And which women would those be? They can only be 'women who are not biologically female', right? In other words - males.

That's what he's saying.

I don't think that India thinks of transwomen as 'women who are not biologically female', he just thinks they are a different group of women than the women he calls 'cis' women. He does not think transwomen are male.
I appreciate your perspective and I can see that many other posters agree with you so I think we are just going to have to respectfully agree to disagree. Thanks for the thread though.

I agree another own goal by Willyboy, it's clear in his need to rant he doesn't think his rant through before he rants it. 😂
Well spotted, maybe he should get someone to read through his drivel before he post's it. Any volunteers? 😁

Is he saying that as Nelson Mandela or Princess Diana? It’s so hard to tell.

He could ask the imaginary friends he had coffee with the other week I suppose.

I missed the IW as Princess Di claim. If he is her she isn’t aging well…

Agree - the male cleaner is not there because he wants to appropriate and impersonate womanhood and probably not because he wants to get a sexual thrill out of being there, which a significant proportion of TIMs are (as evidenced by the videos and descriptions they themselves post). I’ve yet to see any evidence of a male toilet cleaner filming the,selves masturbating in the women’s toilets and if they did they’d be sacked, as they are there to work. The very fact that there is warning about there being a male cleaner shows that this is something women need to be aware of as it affects them. Not really supporting India’s take that a male cleaner being there means it’s unfair that male TW can’t come and go as they please.

He's talking about a male, trying to pass themself off a woman. The great pudding.

She's likening women's rights to exclude all men, however they ID, from their spaces as being the same as racism. Why don't you say so, @Charabanc ? It's the same trope as the suggestion that 'black' women are not proper women if 'trans' women are not proper women and is in itself a racist statement. Of course a biological woman is a woman, the colour of her skin, her hair, her eyes etc make no difference. A transwoman is a man because he was born with a penis (and don't start muttering about DSDs - they have nothing to do with 'trans').

That's what he is implying. What a nasty person Himdia is.

Sorry, what?!

That's a bit harsh! Pigs are highly intelligent.

Himdia