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National Library of Scotland censors The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht

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OhBuggerandArse · 12/08/2025 23:46

Took it out of their centenary exhibition because the staff LGBT+ network kicked up a fuss. Craven. This really needs massive public challenge and push back - if the National Library isn't able to fend off the censors we are utterly lost. https://x.com/EthelWrites/status/1955390550494023958

https://x.com/EthelWrites/status/1955390550494023958

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DontWheeshtMe · 05/09/2025 12:06

RedToothBrush · 04/09/2025 21:33

Ooo great timing. Today was a great day to bury this news as all the crazy tras were too busy running around their masks in London to notice and the newspaper editors could go 'well weve already got one tras story so bump this one'.

Why were they running around in masks. Have I missed something 🥴

RedToothBrush · 05/09/2025 12:32

DontWheeshtMe · 05/09/2025 12:06

Why were they running around in masks. Have I missed something 🥴

Graham Linehan case. The 'victim' left court surrounded by men in masks. Who appeared acted aggressively and assaulted one journalist in doing so.

DontWheeshtMe · 05/09/2025 13:05

RedToothBrush · 05/09/2025 12:32

Graham Linehan case. The 'victim' left court surrounded by men in masks. Who appeared acted aggressively and assaulted one journalist in doing so.

Blimey 😧
off to check out the news

RedToothBrush · 05/09/2025 13:08

DontWheeshtMe · 05/09/2025 13:05

Blimey 😧
off to check out the news

Don't bother if it's the guardian or the BBC...

Video footage is available on twitter

Boiledbeetle · 05/09/2025 13:08

DontWheeshtMe · 05/09/2025 13:05

Blimey 😧
off to check out the news

I noticed they also included an unmasked one who I won't name here as it will result in mnhq having to deal with irate emails from the individual.

Does SBs parents have any clue as to the company their child keeps?

Do they know their teenage son was/is spending time with a convicted sex offender?

DontWheeshtMe · 05/09/2025 13:17

Boiledbeetle · 05/09/2025 13:08

I noticed they also included an unmasked one who I won't name here as it will result in mnhq having to deal with irate emails from the individual.

Does SBs parents have any clue as to the company their child keeps?

Do they know their teenage son was/is spending time with a convicted sex offender?

Hi
boiled.

your books arrived
Thanks to you and all the mumsnetters for their contributions

National Library of Scotland censors The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht
Boiledbeetle · 05/09/2025 13:35

DontWheeshtMe · 05/09/2025 13:17

Hi
boiled.

your books arrived
Thanks to you and all the mumsnetters for their contributions

It will hopefully keep you amused for an hour or two.

(And acts as a timely reminder that I really must sit down and sort out a bank transfer of the profits to For Women Scotland.)

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Boiledbeetle · 05/09/2025 15:19

OhBuggerandArse · 05/09/2025 15:13

Yay!!!

National Library of Scotland censors The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht
NotAtMyAge · 05/09/2025 16:06

Good, face-forward display, says she with her retired librarian hat on. I just wish I could read the titles of the books shelved alongside. Are they perhaps for "balance"?

lcakethereforeIam · 05/09/2025 17:43

This is an interesting (well I think so 😃) article on the state of the arts in Scotland and how the organisations are capitulating to activists, with noble exceptions

https://archive.ph/mOcuQ

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comedy/what-to-see/scottish-culture-activist-threat/

The bit about them giving into activists. Claiming they're worried about the safety of their staff from the...fluence of the GC, Conservative, Jewish people being targeted. In reality it's the violence and intimidation of the activists which is where the fear comes from.

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 06/09/2025 11:44

lcakethereforeIam · 05/09/2025 17:43

This is an interesting (well I think so 😃) article on the state of the arts in Scotland and how the organisations are capitulating to activists, with noble exceptions

https://archive.ph/mOcuQ

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comedy/what-to-see/scottish-culture-activist-threat/

The bit about them giving into activists. Claiming they're worried about the safety of their staff from the...fluence of the GC, Conservative, Jewish people being targeted. In reality it's the violence and intimidation of the activists which is where the fear comes from.

Edited

Interesting read.
But I'm left wondering which organisation Fanshawe was talking about, as there is no such group as 'Arts for Palestine'.
I wish the journalist/ Telegraph could have been a bit less sloppy, and told us whether they actually meant to refer to 'Artists for Palestine' or 'Artworkers for Palestine'.
I imagine it's the latter, as they've been responsible for targeting (bullying, frankly) various cultural centres in Glasgow over the past few months, with the demand that they publicly endorse PACBI (https://www.bdsmovement.net/pacbi) - one of the main characters involve comes across (online) as an increasingly unhinged, hate-filled, dogmatic, hypocritical, virtue-signalling, over-privileged import-from-England
(and I write this as someone who has been in complete support of both the Palestinian struggle and the BDS movement for decades, but am utterly horrified at the impact this person's 'activism' is having on working class Scottish artists & access to the precious few free/ public spaces we have in the city)

AlwaysAGoodDayForCake · 06/09/2025 11:51

NotAtMyAge · 05/09/2025 16:06

Good, face-forward display, says she with her retired librarian hat on. I just wish I could read the titles of the books shelved alongside. Are they perhaps for "balance"?

Massive squinting going on, but I think the red book spine immediately next to WWWW is Kacen Callener's 'Felix Ever After' , then the green book spine is Rick Riorden's 'Percy Jackson - The Lightning Thief'. After that, I haven't hope of working it out!

It's excellent news anyway - I was wondering yesterday what was happening with this and just saw the news today.

Seriestwo · 07/09/2025 03:56

A group of feminists had a book group at the library and discussed the wwww book. What a good idea! x.com/gussiegrips/status/1964481979543679451?s=46

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 07/09/2025 09:20

I dropped in to the NLS "Dear Library" exibition yesterday afternoon to see TWWWW for myself. It's there, among the other 100 books chosen by the public. The book next to it now is an Irvine Welsh.

So I have decommissioned my TWWWW library craft kit - coloured pencils in case the green and purple pencils are missing, mini paper copies of the TWWWW book cover, Pritt stick and list of useful quotes to write on cards.

Thanks for the headsup about Guessie's book group @Seriestwo I wont be able to join the next one (working day, sigh) but hope everyone has a fantastic time in October!

(edited for not enough Ws)

National Library of Scotland censors The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht
MarieDeGournay · 07/09/2025 09:41

It's great to see TWWWW on display at last.

Any news about the well-being of the LGBT+ staff who were so scared of the book?
Sick leave? Sulking? Work-to-rules? Tantrums? Disciplinary actions? Sabotage? Resignations?
Or maybe just the realisation that bullying doesn't always work.

AnSolas · 07/09/2025 10:15

MarieDeGournay · 07/09/2025 09:41

It's great to see TWWWW on display at last.

Any news about the well-being of the LGBT+ staff who were so scared of the book?
Sick leave? Sulking? Work-to-rules? Tantrums? Disciplinary actions? Sabotage? Resignations?
Or maybe just the realisation that bullying doesn't always work.

Book burning out the back and in hope of sueing for on-the-job incident?

user1471471849 · 07/09/2025 10:38

They're probably 'alarmed and distressed' (Sophie Brook's answer to everything in the court case with Glinner).

SirChenjins · 07/09/2025 14:08

There will be much hand-holding and checking in with each other on Teams to make sure they're not feeling unsafe and distressed by the hurty words in the book. They will be absolutely loving the self-inflicted drama and there will no doubt be counselling on offer.

If ever there was an argument for the removal of right to the internet, this is it. Too many people out there who should have been pointed in the direction of hobbies and clubs by their parents, rather than screens.

Seriestwo · 07/09/2025 16:58

I think they should be encouraged to read the book and highlight the hurty words. I’ve read it and found nothing transphobic in it at all, but plenty's of misogyny.

ArabellaScott · 07/09/2025 17:14

It's good to see a book, in a library, along with other books.

I can't believe in 2025 we are actually having to fight librarians to have this happen.

DuesToTheDirt · 07/09/2025 20:15

Seriestwo · 07/09/2025 16:58

I think they should be encouraged to read the book and highlight the hurty words. I’ve read it and found nothing transphobic in it at all, but plenty's of misogyny.

I'm sure that calling out misogyny is somehow transphobic.

MarieDeGournay · 07/09/2025 21:57

Seriestwo · 07/09/2025 16:58

I think they should be encouraged to read the book and highlight the hurty words. I’ve read it and found nothing transphobic in it at all, but plenty's of misogyny.

Is there a bit missing, should that be plenty of examples of misogyny?
I'm not putting words in your mouth, Seriestwo, just pointing out the possibility that you may be misunderstood.

Keenovay · 08/09/2025 13:34

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 06/09/2025 11:44

Interesting read.
But I'm left wondering which organisation Fanshawe was talking about, as there is no such group as 'Arts for Palestine'.
I wish the journalist/ Telegraph could have been a bit less sloppy, and told us whether they actually meant to refer to 'Artists for Palestine' or 'Artworkers for Palestine'.
I imagine it's the latter, as they've been responsible for targeting (bullying, frankly) various cultural centres in Glasgow over the past few months, with the demand that they publicly endorse PACBI (https://www.bdsmovement.net/pacbi) - one of the main characters involve comes across (online) as an increasingly unhinged, hate-filled, dogmatic, hypocritical, virtue-signalling, over-privileged import-from-England
(and I write this as someone who has been in complete support of both the Palestinian struggle and the BDS movement for decades, but am utterly horrified at the impact this person's 'activism' is having on working class Scottish artists & access to the precious few free/ public spaces we have in the city)

Artworkers for Palestine - they posted about it.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMYHxKPo1bo/

Responsible for successfully bullying the CCA (who have seen the error of their ways) and attempting to bully the GFT, who have resisted and held onto their independence for now.

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMYHxKPo1bo/

ArabellaScott · 08/09/2025 16:40

Good to hear the GFT are resisting. Absolutely absurd that these bullies have been enabled. Istr one of their demands was holding an event - for all ages - and saying that the CCA must promise to not call police under any circumstances? Insanity.

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