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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Man dressed as tween girl with dummy

52 replies

Shmoigel · 08/08/2025 23:57

Today I was in a shop and there was a 20 something man in there who was 6 foot tall and wearing what could only be described as a tween girls outfit. Short skirt and crop t shirt. But he had a dummy and bear.

It really unsettled me and frightens me that this person is emboldened to act on his fetsish so publicly!

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NPET · 09/08/2025 00:01

And the worst thing is that some people will support his "right" to parade around like that!

Shmoigel · 09/08/2025 00:04

Definitely! I even questioned myself thinking they may be neurodivergent. When you are an adult man larping as a “sexy baby” it’s not acceptable.

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MsPug · 09/08/2025 00:05

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reported

Shmoigel · 09/08/2025 00:07

MsPug · 09/08/2025 00:05

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reported

Why?

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defrazzled · 09/08/2025 06:03

There’s one in hebden bridge, he’s got long hair but is quite bald. It’s grim yeah.

WarriorN · 09/08/2025 07:33

Loads of these blokes showing off their purchases on Etsy.

WarriorN · 09/08/2025 07:33

Shmoigel · 09/08/2025 00:04

Definitely! I even questioned myself thinking they may be neurodivergent. When you are an adult man larping as a “sexy baby” it’s not acceptable.

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One in the north east has made a career out of this concept.

roseyposey · 09/08/2025 07:34

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Helleofabore · 09/08/2025 07:37

It is really interesting to see people trying to dismiss this.

Thingyfanding · 09/08/2025 07:40

Grayson Perry has been doing this for many years (not excusing it but interestingly he did have a troubled childhood)

Igmum · 09/08/2025 07:40

Oh FFS. Co-opting the general public in his fetish. I absolutely do not consent to this.

DeanElderberry · 09/08/2025 07:52

Grayson Perry's 'look' got less admiration after he said he favours full skirts because they hide his erection.

ugh

WarriorN · 09/08/2025 07:57

Many men have had troubled childhoods and do not feel the need to do this.

27TimesAway · 09/08/2025 08:02

Thingyfanding · 09/08/2025 07:40

Grayson Perry has been doing this for many years (not excusing it but interestingly he did have a troubled childhood)

I fail completely to understand why GP acting out his fetish publicly is so lauded and accepted. Remember when he wore the erect dildo at a children's charity cancer event?

https://x.com/KaeleyT/status/1643006342582644737

https://x.com/KaeleyT/status/1643006342582644737

deadpan · 09/08/2025 08:51

What would people think of an adult woman walking around dressed in the same way with a teddy and a dummy.
We'd think she had a mental illness or she was trying to attract attention of a particular kind. Just the same for the lad, except he's been lead to believe that he's completely justified in doing it.

LadyKenya · 09/08/2025 09:15

Igmum · 09/08/2025 07:40

Oh FFS. Co-opting the general public in his fetish. I absolutely do not consent to this.

I may not approve of the way lots of people are dressed, but they are hardly 'Co-opting the general public' for goodness sake.

HagsRule · 09/08/2025 09:23

There was a similar one I saw at a children's book event at a book festival. Dressed in a tween outfit (dungaree things) with glittery eyeshadow and glitter stickers on his face. Didn't have a toddler with him. Everyone was avoiding him.

I also no do not go to the book festival anymore. 10 years ago that man would not have been let into the event space. It was one of the (many) moments that peaked me.

Also incidentally saw an older guy last night (I'm on holiday at the moment in spain) dressed in a tiny skirt which when he opened his legs you could see his manhood. Long hair but balding, a weird crop top thing and his hairy belly hanging out. He was trying to talk to us but we just ignored him. He said to my friend it's so nice us girls all out at the beach bar eh?! Ugh. Boak. This whole movement has been co-opted by the fetish perverts. I feel for the Miranda Yardley types (the ones who don't use women's spaces or don't make themselves obviously sexual in their dress or manner) who have been lumped in with the others. However my sympathy is waning as we aren't hearing a lot of condemnation from them about the fetish lot. It's just enabled and ignored.

Brainworm · 09/08/2025 09:36

I’m struggling to see how the genie can be put back in the bottle.

Throughout evolution, humans have lived in homogenous societies, where a dominant set of social norms prevailed and conformity was socially controlled by fear of ostracism.

Today, most western societies are diverse and there are significant differences in what is deemed to be acceptable within the group/society. Social policing is condemned by the state and fear of ostracism is more powerful within diverse sub groups whose norms and values can conflict.

I think social liberalism and welcoming diversity has peaked, but I think people are wanting the impossible - norms and values that are upheld via social control, whilst maintaining high levels of autonomy and individual choice.

Using this thread as an example - what mechanisms can be used to determine what is/isn’t acceptable to wear and carry and how should this be policed, now this is no longer socially controlled.

deadpan · 09/08/2025 09:53

LadyKenya · 09/08/2025 09:15

I may not approve of the way lots of people are dressed, but they are hardly 'Co-opting the general public' for goodness sake.

It's one thing when men dress age appropriately, but it's another when they're dressed as a child/teen. And with a dummy and teddy 🙄

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/08/2025 09:58

HagsRule · 09/08/2025 09:23

There was a similar one I saw at a children's book event at a book festival. Dressed in a tween outfit (dungaree things) with glittery eyeshadow and glitter stickers on his face. Didn't have a toddler with him. Everyone was avoiding him.

I also no do not go to the book festival anymore. 10 years ago that man would not have been let into the event space. It was one of the (many) moments that peaked me.

Also incidentally saw an older guy last night (I'm on holiday at the moment in spain) dressed in a tiny skirt which when he opened his legs you could see his manhood. Long hair but balding, a weird crop top thing and his hairy belly hanging out. He was trying to talk to us but we just ignored him. He said to my friend it's so nice us girls all out at the beach bar eh?! Ugh. Boak. This whole movement has been co-opted by the fetish perverts. I feel for the Miranda Yardley types (the ones who don't use women's spaces or don't make themselves obviously sexual in their dress or manner) who have been lumped in with the others. However my sympathy is waning as we aren't hearing a lot of condemnation from them about the fetish lot. It's just enabled and ignored.

The definition of “flying into Malaga” indeed!

defrazzled · 09/08/2025 11:12

@LadyKenyathey are, learn about make paraphilia and stop telling more educated women we’re wrong!

Justwrong68 · 09/08/2025 11:57

I think a lot of it can be ignored in the name of fashion. Very much like the shock tactics of the punk era: fetish wear, dummies, cross dressing. Nothing shocks your parents and their friends more than a grown man dressed as a sexy woman or a baby. I can’t account for the middle aged ones except midlife crisis I guess.

NewDogOwner · 09/08/2025 12:59

WarriorN · 09/08/2025 07:32

Well, most fetishes do apparently have their roots in a childhood experience. This is likely true. Don't make it OK to wear in public, though.