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Cass review: how has report affected care for transgender young people? - The Guardian 2/7/25

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UtopiaPlanitia · 11/07/2025 16:13

Article in The Guardian tweeted by Biology in Medicine on TwiX (https://x.com/biologyinmed/status/1943616841152114706)

https://archive.ph/lfWGI

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/02/cass-review-how-has-report-affected-care-for-transgender-young-people

Review led to profound changes, some of which made young people feel unsupported, yet new clinics are opening

'The Cass effect
Fourteen months later and the exponential rise in referrals for NHS care has halted, with figures showing a sharp reduction from up to 280 referrals a month at the Tavistock to between 20 and 30 a month this year, a 10th of the earlier rate.

James Palmer, the medical director for specialised services at NHS England, who is responsible for implementing the recommendations of Cass, suggests a number of factors are behind the decrease. Young people can now only be referred for the youth gender service through mental health or paediatric specialists, rather than by a GP.

Palmer also believes the reduction is partly because of the “change in philosophy” brought in by Cass about hormone treatments. Her review concluded there was “remarkably weak evidence” that puberty blockers(prescribed to give young people experiencing distress and dysphoria about their bodies time to consider their next move) and cross-sex hormones (which masculinise or feminise people’s appearances) improve young people’s wellbeing and there was concern they may harm health.'

Cass review: how has report affected care for transgender young people?

Review led to profound changes, some of which made young people feel unsupported, yet new clinics are opening

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/02/cass-review-how-has-report-affected-care-for-transgender-young-people

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SamiSnail · 12/07/2025 17:37

BeeSouriante · 12/07/2025 16:39

yeah already have news reports of things returning to the bad old days. As per usual, we were right.

And just what are those "news reports"? Because as per usual, just like with Thalidomide and lobotomies, we are right, and you, as always per usual, are wrong. Which is why you are losing the war.

PollyNomial · 12/07/2025 19:33

Theeyeballsinthesky · 12/07/2025 13:23

If other countries wish to sterilise children and put them on a path of lifetime medication that’s up to them

we can’t legislate for other countries stupidity

I see similar assertions from those who cling to brexit being a good idea that all those other countries are all marching out of step except us.

FrippEnos · 12/07/2025 19:42

What I don't understand is how anybody that thinks a paper produced by gender studies "professors" and then peer reviewed by gender studies "professors" doesn't have an inherent bias as they are affirming their own jobs.

Annoyedone · 12/07/2025 19:45

PollyNomial · 12/07/2025 19:33

I see similar assertions from those who cling to brexit being a good idea that all those other countries are all marching out of step except us.

But every month more countries are realising sterilising and mutilising children is a bad idea and stopping it, Some countries are also dropping Self ID as they’ve realised what a shit show that is. It’s almost as if people are “educating themselves” as we were told to do.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 12/07/2025 20:08

PollyNomial · 12/07/2025 19:33

I see similar assertions from those who cling to brexit being a good idea that all those other countries are all marching out of step except us.

Oh do Fuck off dear

I’m a left wing remainer

and I can tell the difference between a man and a woman because you know reality

TRA is a men’s rights movement - always has been always will be

GenderlessVoid · 12/07/2025 20:33

@GallantKumquat
This has been mentioned before, but I do seriously wonder if 'gender dysphoria' is in fact 100% social contagion.

I think it can be but it also seems like a common trauma response for people who were repeatedly sexually abused as toddlers or young children.

UtopiaPlanitia · 12/07/2025 22:26

GenderlessVoid · 12/07/2025 20:33

@GallantKumquat
This has been mentioned before, but I do seriously wonder if 'gender dysphoria' is in fact 100% social contagion.

I think it can be but it also seems like a common trauma response for people who were repeatedly sexually abused as toddlers or young children.

I agree that there are multiple causes for children and adults wanting to transition, which is why it has always frustrated me that WPATH and the media pushes the notion that this phenomenon springs from one cause i.e, dysphoria. The motivations of middle-aged men with AGP have nothing in common with the motivations of same-sex attracted teenage girls yet the media portrays it as if they do.

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Bannedontherun · 12/07/2025 23:08

The whole idea of the umbrella of “trans” is to seek to shade the AGP’s and other, fetishists and the minor interested people using that of the lesbian and gay community.

I find the whole use of umbrellas to try and stop objectors as the most profound and insidious expression of it.

NotBadConsidering · 12/07/2025 23:21

PollyNomial · 12/07/2025 19:33

I see similar assertions from those who cling to brexit being a good idea that all those other countries are all marching out of step except us.

I see similar assertions from gender clinicians when compared to lobotomists. Walter Freeman went to his grave convinced lobotomy was a good idea. There will be gender clinicians who will equally never back down on their belief that sterilising children is the best way to treat them.

They will also fight tooth and nail against anything that counters that, like the Cass Review.

Consider if you’re a gender clinician who sterilises children. To follow the Cass Review from now on would mean a tacit admission you’ve sterilised children in the recent past for no good reason. You’re admitting your own liability in any legal case that child might bring. Of course you’re going to show “low mood” for going that way.

Helleofabore · 12/07/2025 23:21

PollyNomial · 12/07/2025 19:33

I see similar assertions from those who cling to brexit being a good idea that all those other countries are all marching out of step except us.

The two are in no way comparable. It is foolish to do so. But please continue to not provide even a modicum of evidence to support your posts. It is great for readers to see such arguments being used.

Retiredfromthere · 13/07/2025 20:29

spannasaurus · 12/07/2025 13:25

@spannasaurus thanks for the link but there appears to be a typo in the URL that you posted (odd extra at end) here is correct version www.buttonslives.news/p/the-global-response-to-the-cass-review

UtopiaPlanitia · 16/07/2025 00:14

The Times have an article on the situation in Scotland. Here’s links and a few excerpts:

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/crisis-at-scotlands-gender-clinic-as-no-new-patients-seen-in-six-months-l0p3sg9s8

https://archive.ph/zSh5f

Crisis at Scotland’s gender clinic as no new patients seen in six months

Scotland’s largest gender clinic is described as being “in crisis” after it emerged that no new patients were seen at the facility for six months.

The Sandyford gender clinic in Glasgow, also home to Scotland’s only specialist gender centre for children, offered no patients first appointments for a six-month period between September 2024 and February this year, despite waiting lists increasing by more than ten people per week….

…The Sandyford, which critics call the “Tartan Tavistock”, is believed to have had difficulty recruiting staff over recent years, in part due to the politicised debate about its work.

In 2022, it emerged that a senior consultant at the centre had admitted that its treatments were not backed by “robust evidence” and that they largely relied on self-diagnosis, with clinicians “basically just going on what they [the patient] tell you”.

Crisis at Scotland’s gender clinic as no new patients seen in six months

The Sandyford clinic offered no first appointments between September 2024 and February this year, despite waiting lists rising by more than ten people per week

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/crisis-at-scotlands-gender-clinic-as-no-new-patients-seen-in-six-months-l0p3sg9s8

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CrocsNotDocs · 16/07/2025 05:10

I have often wondered whether the neurodiverse girls coming through early secondary schools now, will drop the gender obsession, now the El Dorado of puberty blockers has gone, and social transitioning in schools is under heavy fire. Surely they can no longer get obsessed with transitioning as the solution to their problems if the transitioning pipeline doesn’t exist anymore.

I desperately hope these girls go back to identifying as goths or some other harmless subculture, temporarily shocking their grandparents at family BBQs with stupid haircuts and piercings.

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