Pronouns in work signatures- how do I stop it?

[SloppyThePoodle]

My employer has just mentioned they want people to start putting pronouns in email signatures. They have said it isn't mandatory. My question is, should I contact management to explain why this isn't a good idea, and if so, what sources can I provide?
Thanks all
(Hope i posted this in the right place)

They seem to be about four years behind! I have noticed far fewer emails arriving with pronouns on them than before. It is on the way out.

At my work we’ve had a bit of a pronouns bump, presumably from colleagues who think the Supreme Court is full of meanies.

I have a neutral name and people often assume I'm a male Sam (not actually my name but same problem). I solved it by amending my signature to read "Ms Sam Jones" rather than just "Sam Jones." Haven't had to "declare" a gender through the medium of pronouns and it's no longer an issue (I love that "declare", it sounds as though it's six kilos of cocaine through customs)

I never will. I've never been asked to, although some colleagues have. I'd refuse if I was asked.

How do you know she HAD a "gender"
Most people don't, you know.

Or do you mean her sex?
Of course, she could have easily made that clear with a title if it was really a problem. I suspect it wasn't though or else she would have added Ms or similar to her name.

Really? I call bollocks.

I have a name that confuses people: feminine in my parents' mother tongue, obscure or possibly masculine in English. Yes, people were often confused when meeting me in person or on the phone, having assumed from written communication that I was a man. Never caused me any problems.

I later realised that people assuming me to be male gave me gravitas (in their heads!) and I was taken more seriously. It was much easier to establish myself with new contacts when I signed off as Jelly Saurus than when I signed off as Jelly Saurus (Ms), or as Jelly Saurus (Miss).

In my previous and current employer, both captured according to the main newsletters, very few use pronouns. It's the usual few, dyed unnatural hair and flags on the desks types who use them. Everyone else ignores it.

If it makes absolutely no difference then why do it?

Don't- ive already explained why I don't agree with it but people appear to not be reading the full thread before asking this question again and again!!

Mind your own business. It's not up to you to tell other people they can't use pronouns in their email address or dictate the culture of your workplace.

Quite right too. What business is it of the staff what their workplace culture is ? They should just do their fucking jobs.

thats right women, just STFU & leave it to the transwomen & handmaidens to do all the dictating of what is acceptable "workplace culture"

It's one woman who has an issue with something that has no impact on her whatsoever. If everyone chooses to ignore this and not put their pronouns in their signatures then nothing changes. If many people do, then that's how culture change works in an organisation, and maybe OP's opinion isn't as widely shared as she assumed! Demanding that HR does what SHE thinks is right will get her nowhere.

Hi op. With respect I wasn’t directing the question to you but to the poster I quoted who was dismissing the issue entirely and IMHO trying to brush the issue aside as not being important. Similar to the “why do you care” question.

….and just like that we have a prime example.

it’s highly likely that there is more than just OP who objects to this.

and it absolutely does matter and does have an impact on her.

You don’t know what pronouns are. There’s 111 in British Grammar and they are nothing to do with how people feel!!

Still waiting…

Apologies - I think i quoted you by mistake!

I've already posted about why I care, if you look through my posts you'll see my reasoning.

My main issue is that I was thinking of perhaps telling HR why it might not be a good idea, not that I want to tell people what they can and can't do. For example, I don't want it to become some kind of virtue signal and anyone with no pronouns in their signature becomes a target. Or vice versa.

My view on women is the same as NATO.

An attack on one is an attack on all.

If you really believe that using pronouns spontaneously in everyday language is the same as "declaring" YOUR pronouns, then I don't know how to help you.

Me too! I work in a profession where especially Americans think I’m a man until they talk to me. Fabulous. I can throw my masculine weight around and don’t have to “be kind”.

Luckily others here do.

We had an email/stuff on the intranet about this the other week - my workplace is 100% captured, but it also said it wasn’t mandatory. I put “Ms” before my name on mine and no pronouns.

I have a colleague (a gay man) who says everyone should be referred to as “they” unless they tell you otherwise. 😬