TransLucent have submitted a formal complaint to NHRIs that EHRC is is failing to adhere to the Paris Principles

[IwantToRetire]

A leading trans campaign group has requested an investigation into the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), claiming its conduct in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling on gender has been unlawful, The Independent can reveal.

It comes after the Supreme Court ruled that trans women are not legally women under the Equality Act.

TransLucent said they have submitted a formal complaint to the Global Alliance of National Human Rights Institutions (GANHRI) – the worldwide membership-based network of national human rights institutions (NHRIs)– claiming that the UK’s equalities watchdog is failing to adhere to the Paris Principles.

The Paris Principles set out the minimum standards that NHRIs must meet in order to be considered credible and to operate effectively. The key pillars of the Paris Principles are pluralism, independence and effectiveness.

Continues at https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trans-charity-demands-investigation-ehrc-070455394.html

The UK is a sovereign country. The EHRC must follow the laws enacted by our democratically elected and sovereign parliament, not a bunch of unelected grifters in foreign countries who aren't democratically accountable to anyone.

Will it matter? The EHRC has to implement the law of this country, not the law as TransLucent would like it to be.

Lol theyre raging away like wasps in a jar!

the UK is a sovereign state, these bodies tjey keep whingeing too have no control over our laws

as akways I’m utterly amazed that such hard of thinking ppl have been listened too and kow towed too for so long by ppl who should fecking well know better

"TransLucent alleges that public statements made by EHRC commissioners, including chair Kishwer Falkner, demonstrate the body has already formed a “settled view” on the implications of last month’s Supreme Court ruling, pre-empting the end of the consultation on the ruling."

Do they think the ruling might change at the end of the consultation?

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of what the EHRC does.

They could write to the king the Dali Lama, and the Pope (probably have)

will make not an ounce of difference.

The only route they have is through the UK courts to get to an application to the ECHR.

But that would be a long haul and unlikely to succeed.

they would be better advised to lobby for third space facilities.

I can't help but think the people at TransLucent are a bit stupid.

The EHCR arent randomly making stuff up, they are writing guidance based on the Supreme Courts judgement. I'm agog at how many people miss this point.

Well yes, they have a settled view, because the Supreme Court judgment is settled law. Following it isn't optional. The only purpose of the EHRC guidance is to put it in layman's terms.

Wilful ignorance in most cases

"The letter criticises the body, saying it failed to consult with trans people before publishing its interim guidance, ahead of an ongoing consultation on the issue."

When are they going to get through their thick heads, they don't need to be consulted, it's a guidance on a judgement from the highest court in the land about the meaning of an existing law.

There was a consultation about whether the guidance was clear enough, but that's all. They could have put the tuppence worth in on that but 'trans' people don't need to be consulted.

I think what is happening in NI which is half in and half out of the EU, shows that should Labour persue its objective of working more closely with Europe some might attempt to say to do so the rest of the UK should comply with European human rights conventions.

Not forgetting another European rights group is trying to get the UK investigated for being funded by right wing extremist groups to undermine women's rights and LGBTQI rights!

Who wants to rely on Labour to secure our rights.

Not forgetting that there is now a move from both left and right to get rid of the EA as not being fit for purpose.

Not the first time TransLucent have done this:
https://sex-matters.org/about-us/what-we-are-up-against/ehrc-timeline/

@IwantToRetire The UK does comply with the European Human rights Conventions already.

Can you point to where it says in the European Convention on Human Rights that men who wish they were women matter more than actual women?

We signed up to the ECHR in the early 1950s, after years of careful negotiation by people who actually knew what they were doing.

All these so called human rights lobby groups in 2025 are packed full of overprivileged grifters, educated far beyond their level of natural intelligence, who are fucking making it up as they go along.

We don't have to listen to them. They have zero authority. They need to stay in their fucking lane. They need to focus on upholding the obligations member states actually signed up to, the way they were actually written. Not the way they personally would write them in 2025.

I didn't say anything about the European Convention.

If you are interested in the dilema read the thread about NI where are the same time they have a law saying only biology can determine sex and another via the Windsor protocols saying in law a biological male can be a "woman".

I gave the link so as to illustrate that as in the instance of Brexist our Government of whatever Party will certainly not bother if in some way women's rights are impinged to achieve a "greater good".

Dont forget this is actually happening now to women in NI.

Steph Richards of TransLucent organised that protest outside FiLiA’s Portsmouth conference in a busy square with kids around.
The protesters drowned out the voices of sex trafficking survivors talking inside the venue.
They held up Amnesty-branded placards reading I AM WHO I SAY I AM, which surely goes against all safeguarding principles & everything kids are taught about stranger danger.
They chalked obscene drawings & phrases on the pavement where passing children could see them.
Nice.

No.

The Global Alliance of National Human Rights Institutions has quite a lot of members.

You might want to keep the following in mind; the USA isn't a member at all. Finland and Italy couldn't be arsed with it either.

Then lets reflect on the fact that Russia is a Class A member and Iran is a Class C member.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Alliance_of_National_Human_Rights_Institutions#:~:text=GANHRI%20is%20constituted%20as%20a,United%20Nations%20Office%20at%20Geneva.

At this point you will be probably thinking, what a fucking farce this organisation is and what a waste of hot air by Translucent.

And you'd be right. But it sounds a official and it sounds quite scary doesn't it, until you understand what an utter load of bollocks it really is in practice.

@IwantToRetire the Windsor protocol is about the movement of goods primarily but it does tie NI to the GRA amongst other EU equalities stuff.

The GRA does not say that bio men can be women, it is limited to certain rights re pensions, marriages etc with plenty of exceptions.

Fucking hell, some of the "full members" on that map are countries where FGM is still prevalent.

Yep

OK, point me to one international treaty the UK is a member of which says trans women trump women in the pecking order.

Just one.

If there aren't any, we don't have to listen to any of these organisations. They can only criticise us for not holding principles we actually agreed to uphold.

Quite.

I'm not sure that group the UK has been reported to, really is that shit hot on human rights nor has any teeth whatsoever.

They definitely are, but I think it’s also for attention and plaudits from the “community”.

Where were TransLucent, Stonewall etc all when the Supreme Court was taking submissions on the FWS/Scottish Govt case?
Were they so complacently certain that their side would be supported by the SC judgement that they didn't need to bother?
Too late to be making a fuss about it now.

I agree. Got to be seen to be doing something.

Let them waste their time!