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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TransLucent have submitted a formal complaint to NHRIs that EHRC is is failing to adhere to the Paris Principles

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IwantToRetire · 01/07/2025 18:50

A leading trans campaign group has requested an investigation into the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), claiming its conduct in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling on gender has been unlawful, The Independent can reveal.

It comes after the Supreme Court ruled that trans women are not legally women under the Equality Act.

TransLucent said they have submitted a formal complaint to the Global Alliance of National Human Rights Institutions (GANHRI) – the worldwide membership-based network of national human rights institutions (NHRIs)– claiming that the UK’s equalities watchdog is failing to adhere to the Paris Principles.

The Paris Principles set out the minimum standards that NHRIs must meet in order to be considered credible and to operate effectively. The key pillars of the Paris Principles are pluralism, independence and effectiveness.

Continues at https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trans-charity-demands-investigation-ehrc-070455394.html

Trans charity demands investigation into EHRC following Supreme Court ruling on gender

Exclusive: Leading trans campaign group files formal complaint over EHRC conduct

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trans-charity-demands-investigation-ehrc-070455394.html

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Merrymouse · 02/07/2025 09:21

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/07/2025 23:01

Fucking hell, some of the "full members" on that map are countries where FGM is still prevalent.

Seems like a good venue for explaining sex based rights.

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 02/07/2025 10:56

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/07/2025 23:01

Fucking hell, some of the "full members" on that map are countries where FGM is still prevalent.

This does not surprise me. I had a university friend who objected to the 'M' in FGM (also thought that women secretly ruled the world 🙄). He's 'transitioned' since.

HardyNavyBear · 03/07/2025 14:54

That’s what I’m confused about (TRAs saying as if the SC ruling will change). The SC stated that women are allowed to have private spaces away from men. They were clear about sex being based on ones biology. They have been using women’s private spaces for a decade, illegally. Were women consulted EVER about men in our spaces, prisons, sports, locker rooms, shelters? No! And yet here all these TRA orgs whining that they haven’t been consulted. The hypocrisy from these people is never ending. And to demand a spot on the EHRC board?! They are less than 1% of the pop but believe they should be represented on the board? No! You are already represented on the board by LGBTQ members. They are the most insane group of people. And to whine that they have no power when our public institutions are still refusing to implement the SC ruling - this makes this group extremely powerful.

This is the time for the EHRC and government to stand up and fight for women. If society isn’t rectified about this now, then we will never get these AGP men out of our spaces.

HardyNavyBear · 03/07/2025 14:58

There’s the rub - they don’t want third spaces, they never have.

Most of these men are AGPs who are attracted to women and get off by invading our spaces. They will never settle for third spaces. We women must stop turning the cheek. We must start standing up to these mentally ill men..

TheOtherRaven · 03/07/2025 15:23
Sad Baby GIF

They don't want impartiality at all, they will only be satisfied with absolute bias and compliance to their demands, and active hostility and derision towards the rights and equalities of everyone else. Witness the very silly questions to the new potential EHRC chair, which were basically 'will you swear to be a subservient mouthpiece to trans political agendas and against everyone else?'

No. Is the basic answer. The SC judgement merely returned balance and impartiality to say that other people's rights had equal precendence: it's equality of consideration and rights that they are so very, very cross about. And they cannot apparently compute that others have rights as well as them.

But whatever, let them rage on.

TheOtherRaven · 03/07/2025 15:25

And yes to the whole 'we weren't consulted' bit.

It's been repeatedly explained. Laws do not have to be something they agree with or to. They are not the VIP special guest stars of the human race. They do not have the casting vote over the rights permitted to others.

RareGoalsVerge · 03/07/2025 15:36

How does TransLucent think the principle of Pluralism is upheld if the law was changed to say that everyone has to believe TWAW? What other faith positions are immune from people being allowed to say they don't believe in them? And how would the NHRIs review go in the alternative scenario where all women's rights are declared effectively defunct and void because any male who wishes to be included must be so, such that there is nothing that is single sex any longer?

SidewaysOtter · 03/07/2025 15:49

Biscofffan · 02/07/2025 09:12

Where were TransLucent, Stonewall etc all when the Supreme Court was taking submissions on the FWS/Scottish Govt case?
Were they so complacently certain that their side would be supported by the SC judgement that they didn't need to bother?
Too late to be making a fuss about it now.

According to a blog by Joly/the GLP, groups didn't intervene because they'd face too much abuse and it could trigger Charity Commission investigations.

If they genuinely thought they had a case, surely they'd rise above the abuse? After all, they would have had their righteousness to protect them. And quite why they thought "putting their heads above a legal parapet" (to paraphrase) would somehow lead to an investigation is beyond me. They must think Mermaids got investigated because they drew attention to themselves, rather than looking as dodgy as all hell.

SidewaysOtter · 03/07/2025 15:50

RareGoalsVerge · 03/07/2025 15:36

How does TransLucent think the principle of Pluralism is upheld if the law was changed to say that everyone has to believe TWAW? What other faith positions are immune from people being allowed to say they don't believe in them? And how would the NHRIs review go in the alternative scenario where all women's rights are declared effectively defunct and void because any male who wishes to be included must be so, such that there is nothing that is single sex any longer?

I don't think the likes of Translucent give a tiny toss about anyone else's rights if it gets in the way of trans rights/demands/privileges.

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