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Broadcasters must air views that trans women are women, says Ofcom

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IwantToRetire · 29/06/2025 21:00

Media regulator warns GB News that it cannot treat the controversy as settled despite Supreme Court victory in April.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/29/broadcasters-must-air-views-trans-women-are-women-ofcom/

https://archive.is/1KhgX

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SinnerBoy · 30/06/2025 10:13

Justme56 · 30/06/2025 08:34

It seems that Ofcom are already captured by ‘gender’. Can’t imagine their own bias would go down well at an ET.

Oh dear, then they are in breach of the law, by describing it as a "women's" network and including men.

SinnerBoy · 30/06/2025 10:17

TrishTeres · 30/06/2025 08:54

@Fringle Ofcom stiplulates that man made climate change is settled and diverse viewpoints need not be broadcast - (despite many of the most elite atmospheric scientists disputing it) but they dont allow biological sex to be
in that category.of clearly defined fact Ofcom clearly not impartial and cannot effectively scrutinise

No elite climate scientists dispute it. Some third and fewer second tier scientists appear to do so, with many paid by coal and oil companies.

SmudgeHughes · 30/06/2025 10:39

Lins77 · 30/06/2025 09:54

Totally agree with all of this.

Most people who've accepted the "trans women are women" etc narrative aren't idiots. They've just been listening to the wrong people and haven't interrogated those voices. The lumping together of LGBTQ+++ has been a powerful force on the TRA side.

Not helped by most media’s compliance and refusal to platform critical voices. The utter capitulation of the media, the law, and health services have shocked me to my core, shattered my belief system.

theDudesmummy · 30/06/2025 10:43

I believe the BBC, and any other broadcaster, absolutely should present these views but as "there are people who claim that..." (not "believe" that, I don't think many of them do actually believe it). It is important that as long as this cult exists in the mainstream it continues to be reported on.

askmenow · 30/06/2025 10:43

IwantToRetire · 29/06/2025 21:00

Media regulator warns GB News that it cannot treat the controversy as settled despite Supreme Court victory in April.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/29/broadcasters-must-air-views-trans-women-are-women-ofcom/

https://archive.is/1KhgX

So Ofcom wants GB News to lie!

What use are Ofcom really given they are infiltrated by biased gender ideology like all left wing institutions.

Look at the sheep attending Glastonbury at the weekend ....The chanting of kill the IDF, the revelling, the clapping of the INSANE.

They should just live a day in the life of women under Hamas!

It's like rationality has gone out of the window. Common sense and the ability to reason is dead!

TrishTeres · 30/06/2025 11:11

@Fringle I would say you have that the wrong way round. John Clauser nobel prize winner scientist. Many other examples. But also too many who lose their jobs or get cancelled for daring to question the climate narrative.

Igmum · 30/06/2025 11:43

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Binglebong · 30/06/2025 15:35

cryptide · 30/06/2025 08:53

No it doesn't. It just means people can express that view. Others are free to contradict it.

Yes, it does.

Broadcasters must air views that trans women are women, says Ofcom
IwantToRetire · 30/06/2025 18:26

askmenow · 30/06/2025 10:43

So Ofcom wants GB News to lie!

What use are Ofcom really given they are infiltrated by biased gender ideology like all left wing institutions.

Look at the sheep attending Glastonbury at the weekend ....The chanting of kill the IDF, the revelling, the clapping of the INSANE.

They should just live a day in the life of women under Hamas!

It's like rationality has gone out of the window. Common sense and the ability to reason is dead!

I cant find anything about this on the Ofcom web site, so have compiled their comments from the article:

Broadcasters must give airtime to claims that biological men are women when covering trans issues, Ofcom has said.

The media regulator warned GB News in a letter seen by The Telegraph that it could not treat the controversy as settled, despite the landmark Supreme Court victory for women’s rights campaigners in April 2025.

But Ofcom said the Supreme Court only ruled on the definition of a woman in terms of the Equality Act and not on its meaning in other contexts.

(GB News said it should be able to use biological pronouns provided no intent to cause offence) In its reply, Ofcom said that it could not agree with the broadcaster’s “dogmatic” pronouncements.

It said it did not follow the premise that assumes “the judgment should also be understood to have effectively ‘settled’ wider debate about the appropriate meaning, usage and effect of such terms in all contexts outside the scope of the Equality Act, including in broadcast programmes in which issues relating to sex and gender-based rights are discussed generally”.

It added: “The judgment does not purport to do so.”

Ofcom “does not consider that it is helpful or appropriate to endorse the dogmatic propositions” made by GB News, adding that it worked on a case-by-case basis because such issues “require nuanced decision-making”.

“Our assessment will of course also take account of all applicable Convention rights, including the broadcaster’s and audience’s rights to freedom of expression, as well as the latitude for editorial discretion which uncontroversially accompanies the exercise of those rights on issues of significant public interest.”

A spokesman for the regulator said: “Ofcom is a post-broadcast regulator.

“In line with the rights of broadcasters and audiences to freedom of expression, our rules allow broadcasters editorial freedom to choose how to cover issues in their programmes subject to the Broadcasting Code.

“Our assessment of whether content complies with the Broadcasting Code is always fact-specific and takes into account all relevant contextual factors, requiring nuanced decision-making, and not a ‘one size fits all’ approach.”

I think when I first read it I thought that in terms of reporting news they would have to be factual.

But that in terms of opinion and discussion broadcasters are obliged to give "equal time" to "opinions". (which means every broadcaster owes hours of time to sex based reality views!!)

So not really a breakthrough but a reminder that what many of us on FWR think is obvious many, many others (worse regulators) are still operating under Stonewall training.

Sad
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Love4both · 30/06/2025 18:52

OFCOM not fit for purpose

Binglebong · 30/06/2025 19:00

Maybe each item should be fronted with "X is a transwomsn - a male who presents as female. They wish to be referred to using female pronouns."

Every. Single. Time.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 20:20

IwantToRetire · 30/06/2025 18:26

I cant find anything about this on the Ofcom web site, so have compiled their comments from the article:

Broadcasters must give airtime to claims that biological men are women when covering trans issues, Ofcom has said.

The media regulator warned GB News in a letter seen by The Telegraph that it could not treat the controversy as settled, despite the landmark Supreme Court victory for women’s rights campaigners in April 2025.

But Ofcom said the Supreme Court only ruled on the definition of a woman in terms of the Equality Act and not on its meaning in other contexts.

(GB News said it should be able to use biological pronouns provided no intent to cause offence) In its reply, Ofcom said that it could not agree with the broadcaster’s “dogmatic” pronouncements.

It said it did not follow the premise that assumes “the judgment should also be understood to have effectively ‘settled’ wider debate about the appropriate meaning, usage and effect of such terms in all contexts outside the scope of the Equality Act, including in broadcast programmes in which issues relating to sex and gender-based rights are discussed generally”.

It added: “The judgment does not purport to do so.”

Ofcom “does not consider that it is helpful or appropriate to endorse the dogmatic propositions” made by GB News, adding that it worked on a case-by-case basis because such issues “require nuanced decision-making”.

“Our assessment will of course also take account of all applicable Convention rights, including the broadcaster’s and audience’s rights to freedom of expression, as well as the latitude for editorial discretion which uncontroversially accompanies the exercise of those rights on issues of significant public interest.”

A spokesman for the regulator said: “Ofcom is a post-broadcast regulator.

“In line with the rights of broadcasters and audiences to freedom of expression, our rules allow broadcasters editorial freedom to choose how to cover issues in their programmes subject to the Broadcasting Code.

“Our assessment of whether content complies with the Broadcasting Code is always fact-specific and takes into account all relevant contextual factors, requiring nuanced decision-making, and not a ‘one size fits all’ approach.”

I think when I first read it I thought that in terms of reporting news they would have to be factual.

But that in terms of opinion and discussion broadcasters are obliged to give "equal time" to "opinions". (which means every broadcaster owes hours of time to sex based reality views!!)

So not really a breakthrough but a reminder that what many of us on FWR think is obvious many, many others (worse regulators) are still operating under Stonewall training.

Sad

It's in a reply to a FOIR to ofcom:

www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/about-ofcom/foi/2025/june/ofcom-guidance-relating-to-the-use-of-the-term-lgbt.pdf

IwantToRetire · 30/06/2025 20:29

Maybe its because I am much too hot, and very tired. Cant quite make the link. Hmm

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POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 20:41

It is a PDF that needs to open in your browser or you can download it. Are you on the Mumsnet mobile app? That might be the problem.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 20:48

Reference: 02000954

24 June 2025

Freedom of Information request: Right to know request

Thank you for your request for information about Ofcom guidance relating to the use of the term “LGBT” and related terms in broadcasting, in light of the recent UK Supreme Court ruling.

We received this request on 27 May 2025 and we have considered your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (“the FOI Act”).

Your request & our response

I am requesting the following information regarding Ofcom’s guidance, regulations, advice, or policies in relation to the Broadcast Code and associated guidance for media content regulation in the UK with a focus on the use of the term "LGBT" (and its variations, such as LGBTQ, LGBTQ+, or similar terms) and its consistent components (sex, sexual orientation, and gender reassignment) as they pertain to the protected characteristics under the Equality Act 2010.

This request does not include employment or other in-person practices that Ofcom might undertake as part of your duties as an employer or public service organisation, only to those reserved for broadcast and media service provision:

1. Has Ofcom undertaken, or does it plan to undertake, a review of its regulations, guidance, advice, or policies to ensure clarity and alignment with the UK Supreme Court ruling of April 16, 2025, which clarified that "sex" in the Equality Act 2010 refers to biological sex, particularly in relation to the distinct protected characteristics of sex, sexual orientation, and gender reassignment?

Ofcom does not hold information in response to this request.

By way of background, the Ofcom Broadcasting Code (“the Code”) reflects Ofcom’s duties under , which requires Ofcom to set standards for the content of programmes best calculated to secure the standards objectives, including:

  • that generally accepted standards are applied to the contents of television and radio services so as to provide adequate protection for members of the public from the inclusion in such services of offensive and harmful material;
  • that news included in television and radio services is presented with due impartiality;
  • that news included in television and radio services is reported with due accuracy.

The rules related to Harm and Offence in Section Two of the Code, and the rules related to Hate Speech in Section Three of the Code, refer to the protected characteristics you listed. For example:

Rule 2.3: “In applying generally accepted standards broadcasters must ensure that material which may cause offence is justified by the context... Such material may include, but is not limited to, offensive language, violence, sex, sexual violence, humiliation, distress, violation of human dignity, discriminatory treatment or language (for example on the grounds of age, disability, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex and sexual orientation, and marriage and civil partnership), and treatment of people who appear to be put at risk of significant harm as a result of their taking part in a programme. Appropriate information should also be broadcast where it would assist in avoiding or minimising offence.”

Rule 3.2: “Material which contains hate speech must not be included in television and radio programmes or BBC ODPS except where it is justified by the context.”

Meaning of ‘hate speech’: “All forms of expression which spread, incite, promote or justify hatred based on intolerance on the grounds of disability, ethnicity, social origin, gender, sex, gender reassignment, nationality, race, religion or belief, sexual orientation, colour, genetic features, language, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority, property, birth or age.”

Ofcom has also published Guidance Notes on Section Two and Guidance Notes on Section Three.

As our Guidance Notes on Section Two state, “social mores and sensitivities change both over time and in response to events”; and in particular, “the use of language (including offensive language) is constantly developing”. We therefore carry out research into public attitudes towards offensive language on television and radio. Our standard practice is to update this research every five years.

The Code is sufficiently flexible to allow broadcasters to reflect changes in legislation, case law and societal attitudes when complying broadcast material to rules in such areas as harm and offence and hate speech.

Ofcom is a post-broadcast regulator. Our assessment of whether broadcast content complies with the Code is always fact-specific and takes into account all relevant contextual factors.

2. If a review has been undertaken or is planned: a. Please provide details of the scope, timeline, and outcomes (or expected outcomes) of the review. b. Please provide copies of any internal or external correspondence, meeting minutes, or documents related to discussions about the use of the term "LGBT" (or its variations) in Ofcom’s guidance or regulations since April 16, 2025.

Please refer to our response to the first part of your request.

3. If no review has been undertaken or is planned, please confirm whether Ofcom considers its existing guidance and regulations to be fully compliant with the Supreme Court’s ruling regarding the distinct nature of the protected characteristics of sex, sexual orientation, and gender reassignment.

We do not consider this part of your request to be a request for information as defined in the FOI Act.

4. Please provide any current Ofcom guidance, policies, or advice documents that specifically address the use of the term "LGBT" (or its variations) in the context of the Equality Act 2010’s protected characteristics.

Please refer to the Code rules in Section Two: Harm and Offence and Section Three: Hate Speech and the accompanying Guidance, which as set out above make reference to the protected characteristics referred to in your request.

We hope this information is helpful. If you have any further queries, then please send them to [email protected] – quoting the reference number above in any future communications.

Yours sincerely,

Information Requests

Ofcom, Riverside House, 2a Southwark Bridge Road, London SE1 9HA
Switchboard: 0300 123 3000 or 020 7981 3000
www.ofcom.org.uk

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/about-ofcom/foi/2025/june/ofcom-guidance-relating-to-the-use-of-the-term-lgbt.pdf

IwantToRetire · 30/06/2025 20:56

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 20:41

It is a PDF that needs to open in your browser or you can download it. Are you on the Mumsnet mobile app? That might be the problem.

No I have read and cant see anything that says anything about prefered pronouns or having to give trans and GC views equal time.

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TheCatsTongue · 30/06/2025 21:04

The only reason Ofcom are raising this is because it relates to GB News. BBC, Sky et al want GB News gone because they eat into their news ratings and left-wing campaigners want it gone because it is a right-wing channel.

Campaigners will look at anything and everything in an attempt to get Ofcom to come down hard on the channel.

What this has resulted in if Ofcom now saying that it rejects the Supreme Court and that all channels have to put out more factually incorrect information in regards to trans.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 21:08

IwantToRetire · 30/06/2025 20:56

No I have read and cant see anything that says anything about prefered pronouns or having to give trans and GC views equal time.

That was the only FOIR that seemed remotely relevant.

Ofcom hides the FOIR section very thoroughly but I eventually found it here:

www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/freedom-of-information/foi-responses

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 21:13

TheCatsTongue · 30/06/2025 21:04

The only reason Ofcom are raising this is because it relates to GB News. BBC, Sky et al want GB News gone because they eat into their news ratings and left-wing campaigners want it gone because it is a right-wing channel.

Campaigners will look at anything and everything in an attempt to get Ofcom to come down hard on the channel.

What this has resulted in if Ofcom now saying that it rejects the Supreme Court and that all channels have to put out more factually incorrect information in regards to trans.

I thought GB News were saying that they had contacted Ofcom for clarification? Maybe I got that wrong?

EweSurname · 30/06/2025 21:55

are they backtracking, lying or another option I haven’t considered?

Broadcasters must air views that trans women are women, says Ofcom
TempestTost · 30/06/2025 21:57

It's fair enough IMO to say that when there is still an active public debate on an issue, whatever the SC ruling, the news media needs to treat the public's views with a kind of respect. So, for example, not straw manning viewpoints, simply excluding differernt perspectives, etc.

But OFCOM is completely hypocritical on this given the way they are happy for the media to present only extremely narrow sets of opinions on other topics (climate change is one example, covid related stuff another), and more than that, the way they have allowed other news to be completely and utterly one-sided on this topic.

I tend to agree with a pp who said that it's part of an effort to suppress GB News. I think it is killing a lot of media peopel that GB seems to have given much better coverage of this issue and made the right call as to the legal side as well. It undermines their claim it's just propaganda.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 22:35

TempestTost · 30/06/2025 21:57

It's fair enough IMO to say that when there is still an active public debate on an issue, whatever the SC ruling, the news media needs to treat the public's views with a kind of respect. So, for example, not straw manning viewpoints, simply excluding differernt perspectives, etc.

But OFCOM is completely hypocritical on this given the way they are happy for the media to present only extremely narrow sets of opinions on other topics (climate change is one example, covid related stuff another), and more than that, the way they have allowed other news to be completely and utterly one-sided on this topic.

I tend to agree with a pp who said that it's part of an effort to suppress GB News. I think it is killing a lot of media peopel that GB seems to have given much better coverage of this issue and made the right call as to the legal side as well. It undermines their claim it's just propaganda.

There are still ongoing campaigns and petitions by the usual suspects to get Ofcom to close down GB News, eg.

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I am not going to link to them because it gives them more publicity.

TheCatsTongue · 30/06/2025 22:36

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 21:13

I thought GB News were saying that they had contacted Ofcom for clarification? Maybe I got that wrong?

Yes, having read the article that is the case.

The question would be what prompted them to ask for clarification? Had their been informal warnings from Ofcom before or had there been vexatious claims from TRAs?

IwantToRetire · 30/06/2025 23:59

The other side of the arguement is if this is what GB news is being told, then the BBC etc., can equally be challenged for not presenting views that are GC.

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Grammarnut · 01/07/2025 07:43

They can air their silly views if they like. Anyone can see the emperor's new clothes are non-existent. I worry more that the climate emergency is thrust down our throats with the message that we can stop it if we all go back to washing sheets in the bath and using terry nappies - and drive electric cars which are not in the least bit eco-friendly in manufacture and condemn many in places like the DRC to a form of slave labour (child labour, too) in mining cobalt etc. We can't stop the climate changing, our contribution to a system unimaginably huge is small (and the UK's less than minute). It is utter arrogance on the part of humanity that they have a huge input into climate change (which happens all the time on a cycle, we are warming up which suggests the earth is heading for another ice age - we are in an interglacial pause currently) - we would be better finding ways to adapt and to raise the majority of the world who live in poverty to a decent standard of living - oh, and stop the consumer society in its tracks, too, a driver of what input we do make. Our real and solvable problem is pollution of land, sea and air, but sorting that one costs money rather than making money, so we just clear up a bit of plastic every now and then (there is no justification for using plastic - an oil product).
Sorry, off-point rant (because Ofcom have outlawed listening to any but pro-abthropgenic climate change because the science is 'settled' - unlike biological sex 😡) but I remember my DM boiling up nappies and also myself soaking and washing them (they go hard). Also washing sheets in the bath. I don't want women forced back into such work.
As for TRAs, the more they expose themselves (metaphorically) the more we see them for what they are: supporters of men's rights.

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