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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FBI investigation alleged genital mutilation of minors at children's hospitals

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mrshoho · 25/06/2025 21:59

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/fbi-launches-investigation-into-alleged-genital-mutilation-at-childrens-hospitals/

Reading details of the numbers of children is quite shocking.

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KnottyAuty · 25/06/2025 22:35

I'm glad that this is now being called for what it is - genital mutilation of minors

Harassedevictee · 25/06/2025 22:41

This is one area where the US diverges from the UK. The nature of funding medical treatment in the US vs the NHS has played a big part in why children are being operated on in the US. Using FGM legislation is a good approach to stopping this.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/06/2025 22:45

I remember a year or so ago a doctor saying it should be called what it is, and that it was Sex Trait Modification, but it wasn't wildly adopted because it was considered problematic. They opt for Sex Rejecting Procedures, which sunk like a stone but 'genital mutilation of minors' might serve as more accurate because Gender Affirming Care has to be countered, because it straight up lying.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 25/06/2025 23:01

Wow, yes, quite sickening reading the number of children this has been done to. It's a good, hard-hitting article though.

The bitter irony of the photo and caption at the top though - titled "Protesters gather to demonstrate for transgender youth..." (to have their genitals mutilated?!), and the signs they're carrying - "Protect trans kids" - by butchering their genitals?

moto748e · 25/06/2025 23:42

Let's just hope if Trump does this 'one good thing', and manages to make the legislation stick, that by the time the Democrats eventually come back to power, if they do, they will have come to their senses by then.

DefineHappy · 26/06/2025 04:44

KnottyAuty · 25/06/2025 22:35

I'm glad that this is now being called for what it is - genital mutilation of minors

And that it is able to be stated as such without deletion…

mrshoho · 26/06/2025 06:02

From 2019 to 2023, Boston Children’s Hospital saw 301 underage sex-change patients and performed 159 gender-transition surgeries on minors. The hospital also had 149 hormone and puberty blocker patients who were minors and issued 752 sex change-related prescriptions to minors. The patients submitted $6.5 million in charges to the hospital.

Just one hospital alone charged $6.5 million in these 'treatments'.

It is sickening that so many medical professionals carried out such harmful procedures on children who did not have the capacity to understand the permanent consequences. Physically healthy bodies have been damaged. The $$s on offer blinded their sense of right and wrong.

When you stand back and take in what has been done to so many children in plain sight, for monetary gain it is almost too unbelievable. Where were the people saying no to this madness in all these hospitals?

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HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 26/06/2025 06:03

The title alone is sickening.

TheAutumnCrow · 26/06/2025 06:16

DefineHappy · 26/06/2025 04:44

And that it is able to be stated as such without deletion…

On here? Yep. Even MN went on its own rather crazy vacation to Stockholm for a while. So glad it came back home again, for a sensible discussion.

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 07:25

'Boston Children’s Hospital saw 301 underage sex-change patients and performed 159 gender-transition surgeries on minors.'

I wonder how those children are doing now. I wish them peace and I hope they're healthy and happy.

Surgeries to remove the healthy body parts of children is such a shocking idea.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 26/06/2025 08:06

It’s beyond shocking. I don’t think there are any words to describe it.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/06/2025 08:25

Good that the US is starting to do something, but I’m not sure how FGM legislation helps the majority of these poor kids? I don’t know the details of US law but the article implies it’s what it says, so wouldn’t apply to boys (albeit ones these people may claim they’ve made ‘female’), and breasts aren’t genitals so wouldn’t apply to mastectomies.

mrshoho · 27/06/2025 07:43

ErrolTheDragon · 26/06/2025 08:25

Good that the US is starting to do something, but I’m not sure how FGM legislation helps the majority of these poor kids? I don’t know the details of US law but the article implies it’s what it says, so wouldn’t apply to boys (albeit ones these people may claim they’ve made ‘female’), and breasts aren’t genitals so wouldn’t apply to mastectomies.

Yes I had the same question too. Maybe as FGM is a crime this gives them the door in to begin investigating. I hope legislation against all gender reassignment surgeries/treatment to minors will follow. When the world sees it for what it is ie abuse to children, laws will follow.

*edited to add minors

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BundleBoogie · 27/06/2025 08:03

gender dysphoria, the temporary condition of feeling disconnected from your own body.

This is useful description from that piece with the operative word being temporary. I think we need to use this word more often in this context.

BundleBoogie · 27/06/2025 08:07

KnottyAuty · 25/06/2025 22:35

I'm glad that this is now being called for what it is - genital mutilation of minors

Yes. It might be helpful to remember that in at least one US state, laws against FGM were not passed because of the trans lobby and the fact that it would interfere with ‘transing’ kids.

DrBlackbird · 27/06/2025 08:19

moto748e · 25/06/2025 23:42

Let's just hope if Trump does this 'one good thing', and manages to make the legislation stick, that by the time the Democrats eventually come back to power, if they do, they will have come to their senses by then.

Trump maybe can save a few children from the surgery.

The problem with a solution to unethical and horrific ‘sex reassignment surgery’ coming from Trump’s administration, however, is that those doing / advocating for the surgery become even more convinced that they are the ones on the right side of history because the resistance is coming from Trump. The result is that these surgeons are very likely to double down on protecting the surgical pathway.

Money is facilitating this abhorrent practice and money will be the only way it is stopped. We may still be 5 to10 years off from the whole scale class action law suits required to halt this tragedy when these children get old enough to realise they were subjected to experimental surgery comparable to Mengeles and the other Nazi doctors.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 27/06/2025 08:24

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 07:25

'Boston Children’s Hospital saw 301 underage sex-change patients and performed 159 gender-transition surgeries on minors.'

I wonder how those children are doing now. I wish them peace and I hope they're healthy and happy.

Surgeries to remove the healthy body parts of children is such a shocking idea.

I’m not adding anything here, but they cut bits off the healthy bodies of children 159 times?

there are a group of people there who belong in prison. I hope they go for a long, long time

JKRismyPatronus · 27/06/2025 08:27

Those poor children, it's heartbreaking.

To all those that came on here to berate us and tell us this does not happen to minors, what have you got to say about this?

EmpressaurusKitty · 27/06/2025 08:30

BundleBoogie · 27/06/2025 08:07

Yes. It might be helpful to remember that in at least one US state, laws against FGM were not passed because of the trans lobby and the fact that it would interfere with ‘transing’ kids.

I wonder if it’s going to be harder to ban it for boys because male circumcision is such a big thing.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 27/06/2025 08:31

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 27/06/2025 08:24

I’m not adding anything here, but they cut bits off the healthy bodies of children 159 times?

there are a group of people there who belong in prison. I hope they go for a long, long time

Don’t go looking for evidence of the cutting-off of body parts on X (eta, unless you have a strong stomach) - there are multiple doctors who post photos of themselves next to prepubescent girls with mastectomy scars - the photos have all the air of a big game hunter standing next to their prize. It is abhorrent.

nauticant · 27/06/2025 09:11

BundleBoogie · 27/06/2025 08:07

Yes. It might be helpful to remember that in at least one US state, laws against FGM were not passed because of the trans lobby and the fact that it would interfere with ‘transing’ kids.

There's more information about that in this thread from several years ago:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3841394-Trans-rights-and-FGM

Transgender activists are protesting a bill that would criminalize the performance of female genital mutilation on a minor in Wyoming as an act of aggravated assault and battery. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), as many as 200 million girls and women worldwide are living with the harmful effects of female genital mutilation (FGM), which include chronic pain, recurring infections, incontinence, sexual problems, and complications of pregnancy and labor that increase risk of death to the infant. However, Tara Muir, Policy Director of the Wyoming Coalition Against Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault (WCADVSA), has slammed the legislation as having the potential to place “draconian limits on transgender people.”

ErrolTheDragon · 27/06/2025 09:30

BundleBoogie · 27/06/2025 08:07

Yes. It might be helpful to remember that in at least one US state, laws against FGM were not passed because of the trans lobby and the fact that it would interfere with ‘transing’ kids.

Bloody hell, and they probably think they’re ’on the right side of history’. Fucking evil is what blocking anti FGM legislation is.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 27/06/2025 09:41

nauticant · 27/06/2025 09:11

There's more information about that in this thread from several years ago:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3841394-Trans-rights-and-FGM

Transgender activists are protesting a bill that would criminalize the performance of female genital mutilation on a minor in Wyoming as an act of aggravated assault and battery. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), as many as 200 million girls and women worldwide are living with the harmful effects of female genital mutilation (FGM), which include chronic pain, recurring infections, incontinence, sexual problems, and complications of pregnancy and labor that increase risk of death to the infant. However, Tara Muir, Policy Director of the Wyoming Coalition Against Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault (WCADVSA), has slammed the legislation as having the potential to place “draconian limits on transgender people.”

200,000,000 girls and women around the world and they're making it all about the 'trans'. Talk about 1st World Privilege. 🤮

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