International Women In Engineering Day

[Ingenieur]

June 23rd was International Women In Engineering Day, celebrating the achievements of women in the traditionally male-dominted engineering industry.

Who knew that wearing a floppy hat was all it took?

That’s why women struggle in male dominated industries, it’s the hats and skirts getting in the way.

Grrrrrrrr

Well, he can flop off.

Twisted brain wrong

(With thanks to Chris Morris)

@Coatsoff42 they really do get in the way, don't they? I don't know how we do it.

Have you got a link for that photo?

Because I don't think it's just floppy hat laydee...

Yeah, the guy on the left is a man. Not sure about head tilt person, but think man.

Hard to tell from this photo.

I'd prefer not to dive any deeper into "transvestigation", I do know that the engineer in the centre "identifies" as non-binary.

I’m sorry, I know it’s not funny but my first reaction was a guffaw.

Not much "transvestigation" needed, even from your slightly blurry photo.

Am a bit puzzled by your position, though - "I will post this photo for others to agree with me and laugh about this one person in it, but think it's mean for them to want to check out the other male person(s) in it"

I think that’s an IMechE flash on the slide in the background…

This really annoys me. The men dominate literally everything and INWED is supposed to be one fucking day for the women. To encourage other women to be engineers. Not to look at more photos of men FFS!

Yup. Wide, male forehead as well.

Fairly sure about head tilty person as well. They make a nice little group of three.

No laughter intended, just deep frustration.

Gotta cover the balding somehow

Situations like this make me really uncomfortable.

My first thought was that the person in the hat may well be transman, in which case they have every right to be represented under the Women in Engineering umbrella, although I might personally be surprised that they would want to be part of it at all.

My second thought was whether the taller person was a transwoman.

My third thought was to feel suddenly a bit ashamed of myself to be scrutinising people in this way and potentially labelling a female person as being masculine in appearance. Especially in a field where more women than average are likely to be ND and/or gender non-conforming.

My forth thought is that TRAs created this fucking mess in the first place, and if we lived in a world where no biological male would ever dream of inserting himself into an event that is clearly designed to celebrate biological females, then no one would be left peering at blurry photos and potentially mis-sexing someone, because it could be taken as given that any masculine presenting female is either a transman or GNC.

Well I think you'll be even more frustrated when you look at a clearer version of that photo.

My first thought was that the person in the hat may well be transman

Transmen/FtoNB people don't tend to wear floppy hats and skirts though, do they? They generally want to express masculinity.

And just look at the body language of the photo.

Floppy Hat is male. I don't know the others so would prefer not to speculate.

See, I think saying flat chested = man is really... off. And I don't think it furthers the GC / sex realist position.

It is very hard though when women have had to put up with so much blatant, aggressive trolling by men with penis bulges in plain sight, parading their "womanhood".

I hate the fact that women have been put in this position.

I really don't understand why you started this thread @Ingenieur including the sarcastic comment "Who knew that wearing a floppy hat was all it took?" and are now uncomfortable with "transvestigation" and speculation.

What did you intend to achieve?

SheCanEngineer but rules is rules so there must be a man present to help the laydees do the engineering. God forbid we should ever let women take a photo without a bloke in it or, even worse, have a day to promote women in engineering without a load of blokes hijacking it.

Indeed, that is true.

What I am trying to say is that I think conversations like this unfortunately do not reflect well on women.

Which is fucking infuriating because women should absolutely not be in a position where we are having to look for the wolves in sheeps' clothing at all. The wolves should have just stayed the fuck out of the sheep field.