Harry Potter and the Ongoing Spat

[JsmeLegie]

I see she is now claiming that she was never actually friends with Fry.

Link here: https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/jk-rowling-stephen-fry-friends-b1234360.html

In support of Fry, barrister Jo Maugham stated “Really creditable this, from Stephen Fry. I've spoken to so many of JKR's once friends who now despair at her privately but won't do so publicly, which is very much the British way and why nothing ever changes for the better. So well done Stephen.”

Now Casey Bloys, CEO of the network working on a new HP series, has felt the need to clarify on a podcast that the forthcoming series won't be infused with her controversial views, insisting that her views are entirely separate to the show they're making.

And, as one of the latest celebrities to decide to speak out, Boy George weighed in at the beginning of the month with a few observations of his own (see attached image).

So the question here, really, is just how long are certain people going to blindly insist that JKR is an infallible saint when the (increasing) evidence from multiple sources is to the contrary?

Yes, she has funded a lot of good and charitable works for women, that is not in question, but at what point do we as a society finally agree that a human being is not absolved of horrendous behaviour in one part of their life simply because they compensate for it by doing a few good works in another?

Or perhaps you disagree entirely with all her detractors and feel she is unfairly treated / misunderstood / misquoted?
I'd like to hear your views. They are guaranteed to create an interesting dialogue.

All these men opining on how women should behave.

All these men who don't think women should have rights.

And you're standing with the men and suggesting the woman might be wrong about matters that affect women?

There's a word for that isn't there? I'll give you a clue it starts with an M.

There's a word for that isn't there? I'll give you a clue it starts with an M.

Muppets?

This would be a good analytical point for the thread about whether you’ve ever doubted that being gender critical was right.

Is the M for mentally unstable?

Now I wish they'd retained the laugh emoji 😂

For the umpteenth time I will point out that what actors think about current affairs and ethical issues is no more important than what any of the rest of us think. Their expertise begins and ends with acting.

What’s that game, snog marry something or other.

Fry, Maugham, Boy George or JKR?

I’d cross the road to avoid the blokes. I’d even cope with being stuck in a lift with JKR!

I don’t really get what JKR is supposed to have done - other than deny a previous friendship with Fry. Frankly, Fry is an arse anyway, so I’m not sure why she would have been friends with him? He thinks TWAW, but wouldn’t shag a transman, so he’s not exactly a shining beacon of support for the trans community - only the men 🙄

Has anyone ever claimed JKR is an infallible saint? No one is perfect. But if i were asked to nominate someone to be sainted right now it would be her.

Is there another person we could discuss philosophically? Another example? For philosophical purposes of course.

this thread is neither pro nor anti JKR

In that case you might want to rewrite your OP to remove the very obvious bias it betrays.

This is such a weird premise for a thread. And op's posts are even stranger.

But JKR isn't forcing anyone to agree with her.

She's not saying you can't read or watch her work unless you agree with her.

She's never said Stephen Fry can't narrate her work unless he agrees with her.

She did object to Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe speaking for her as though she just didn't understand and treating her as though she'd been caught, say chaining a prostitute to a radiator, to pick a random example of something worthy of condemnation.

Even in her books she writes about those who don't share the same ideology being friends. In the Strike novels his best friend Dave Polworth is a full on Cornish nationalist and described as a bit of a prick. But he's also dependable and loyal.

There's only one side in this that wants anyone who doesn't agree completely shut down, including their works of fiction.

Right?! Ffs. Get a grip.

I doubt the OP has been schooled this much since being in year 11 🤣.

Jo is running rings around all these silly, pompous men who know the square root of zero about actual women.

Here’s to Jo!

YAWN

Thinking this is a TRA post AIBU?

If they have not cut and run @JsmeLegie give me the names of the people who you have grouped in to “not limited too” am dying to know

Maybe it's op's first go on ChatGPT and they haven't quite got the hang?

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I like the way the op sets this up like it's a really thorny and nuanced philosophical question and then produces an argument that amounts to 3 misogynist blokes, all with shady histories they're keen to direct attention from, piling shame and judgement on a woman who fearlessly stands up for other women. Even ChatGPT can't create an 'interesting dialogue' out of this one. Come back when you've got something worth discussing, op.

the word for today is POMPOSITY

P-O-M-P-O-S-I-T-Y

POMPOSITY

What is JKRs bad behaviour that needs to be balanced out anyway? Was it stealing a family friend’s credit card, going on a spending spree and going to prison for it? Oh no, that was Stephen Fry.

Have I seen you somewhere before? you look vaguely familiar.

I'm your Tunnock's delivery beetle