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Enjoy this comments column re Stephen Fry

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1stWorldProblems · 22/06/2025 12:46

This Telegraph column by Michael Deacon is rather good on JKR's radicalisation. Enjoy!

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JustASmallBear · 22/06/2025 16:37

But I wonder if she was brainwashed at an early age – by, say, an O-level biology teacher.

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zanahoria · 22/06/2025 16:49

DeanElderberry · 22/06/2025 14:56

When Fry wrote about schools, his own and others' he didn't include trans characters because they didn't exist then.

He did include a lot about children being sexualised, assaulted, and raped, which he did not criticise.

I'm glad JKR didn't make that a feature of Hogwarts.

He was one of those children but seems to be going down the tired old public school "it did not do me any harm" route.

Although as pederasty is a theme that recurs in his work, it certainly seems to have had lasting effect on him

DeanElderberry · 22/06/2025 17:01

It is disturbing - long term damage that he can't see beyond. I feel sorry for what he suffered, but there comes a stage when an adult has to consider the effects of their own words and actions, particularly as those effect the young and the poor. Clearly he never got there.

zanahoria · 22/06/2025 18:23

The school has definitely radicalized him into the cult of misogyny

MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/06/2025 19:27

Hmm. Malcom Clark - a gay man - has written a very disturbing piece about Fry repeatedly writing about adult sexual relationships with children:

https://x.com/TwisterFilm/status/1877507189994066145

https://x.com/TwisterFilm/status/1877507189994066145

Toseland · 22/06/2025 21:47

How much are they paying you Sir Stephen?

caramac04 · 22/06/2025 22:06

@Absentmindedsmile thank you for the link. That has certainly opened my eyes.

Absentmindedsmile · 22/06/2025 22:13

myplace · 22/06/2025 15:02

That’s…. grim reading. And if it’s still there presumably Fry isn’t fighting back?

Perhaps he doesn’t want to draw attention to it? He’s done a good job of flying under the dodgy bloke radar so far.. don’t they all 👀

Absentmindedsmile · 22/06/2025 22:14

caramac04 · 22/06/2025 22:06

@Absentmindedsmile thank you for the link. That has certainly opened my eyes.

Yes. People say there’s more too.

ButterflyHatched · 25/06/2025 17:36

DeanElderberry · 22/06/2025 14:10

Which 'he'? There are hundreds of comments - none of which so far use the term 'terf' The only person to do that is Fry.

The comment that Fry is a 'creepy old man who promotes pederasty' seemed pretty accurate.

Why do you think he is 'well-intentioned'? Towards whom? Not women, not the young.

I wonder if he's friends with Germaine Greer?

TheHereticalOne · 25/06/2025 19:23

"Who radicalised her? Sir Stephen reckons it was “Terfs” (i.e., trans-exclusionary radical feminists). But I wonder if she was brainwashed at an early age – by, say, an O-level biology teacher. Or perhaps some appallingly irresponsible school librarian gave her access to a dictionary."

I just felt that I couldn't pass this thread without quoting this passage.

Both of these things happened to me at school too and I've rarely told anyone for fear of the stigma.

Glad that this sort of thing is finally being talked about more openly.

Thoughts and prayers 🙏

CassOle · 25/06/2025 20:29

Butterfly was probably alluding to this book by Greer.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/118104.The_Beautiful_Boy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=BeZQxbRYQr&rank=10

A lot of people have willfully misunderstood Greer's book (to try to discredit her), but I will leave it for others to decide if they agree or not.

The Beautiful Boy

With over two hundred images drawn from the whole histo…

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/118104.The_Beautiful_Boy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=BeZQxbRYQr&rank=10

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