Racist men exploiting sexual violence to committ acts of racism

[IwantToRetire]

Image above being circulated on facebook by women in Northern Ireland. And this:

Where is the care for the girl? For the victim of male violence?

This isn’t about isolated cases, this is about male violence against women.

It’s time men talked to men , your friends, your brothers, your sons, about the violence that men do to women. Your sister, your daughter, your partner,’they all live in fear because of this silence.
>It’s male violence against women.
>It’s men showing outrage with more violence.
>It’s men staying silent when friends, family, or online people glorify violent porn, talk about women like objects, and echo racist, sexist, and fascist views.

This is not a race issue alone. It’s white male privilege, and male dominance across the board, upheld by racism, economic hopelessness, online radicalisation, and unchecked hate.

Men rally together to attack difference , while still committing the same male violence they claim to be outraged by. That’s not justice. That’s racism dressed up as moral protest.

Male violence is the issue.

And when “good men’ say nothing, the violence continues.

Silence gives permission.

The male-perspective dominated society of patriarchy is breaking everything, our relationships, our safety, our communities, our sense of purpose.

Our fundamental human ability to care about the victims without making about the men.

What are men doing to stop male violence?

Because this is ridiculous, sad and devastating to all affected by the violence unfolding, women have been fighting this alone forever!!

Men ‘good’ men, step up and speak, act and support.

If these issues aren't addressed and resolved, this kind of unrest is going to keep happening. Its happening in many parts of Europe too, as governments and the complacent ruling class just won't listen.

You may be right that the primary privilege in the world is wealth and class. But coming a very close second is being male, and that doesn’t depend on race, wealth or class.

Just to add, the boys aren't being spared either. There's a fair few drug debts being written off atm if the boys who owe them go out and perpetrated this violence. Getting criminal records.

As I said upthread, the men behind this are nasty bastards. They were nasty bastards before immigration. They'll be nasty bastards if all immigration stopped tomorrow. And women, children and our communities will continue to be terrorised.

Correct. Nobody burning the place down when Jeffrey Donaldson was accused of sexual abuse. Or the umpteen loyalists involved in the abuse at Kincora Boys Home. No riots over clerical abuse or Conor McGregor. Hypocrites. Soon be July when they burn everything anyway. Because William III and 1690.

If the trigger for the attacks was sexual assaults carried out by two boys, why didn't the rioters identify all the houses with boys in them, and burn them down?

Why was the ethnicity of the assailants more significant than their sex?

It will be interesting to see who did what, when it all settles.

Yes there will be nasty bastards out for a punch up and any punch up will do. There will racists taking the opportunity to target anyone who doesn’t look like them, regardless of complicity.

And there will be mums and dads who are furious and powerless to protect their daughters from men who see them as lesser and available, and determined to see that abuses of the past don’t carry on now we are wiser to the dangers.

The nasty bastards behind this violence are the ones that mums and dads who are furious and powerless to protect their daughters from...

They're the ones who run the drugs. They're the ones who run the brothels and sex trafficking industry here. They're the ones behind this racist violence.

Just because they claim to be doing it to protect women and girls doesn't make it true.

And obviously a traumatised society is going to be quicker to turn to violence anyway.

My life, my experiences, mean that lifting a rock in rage would just not cross my mind. I’ve never been exposed to that kind of civil unrest, violence, noise. But there are generations of experience in those communities that mean it’s an option and perhaps the one that feels most familiar.

Absolutely this.

Wars are started by psychopathic or sociopathic men aren't they? Sometimes women too, Catherine the Great was a warmongering ruler.
They're people that have no concerns about violence, only territory.

When democratic and diplomatic methods fail they start up.

The reason or prompt is the failure of the ruling class who are so disassociated from this risk that they feel entitled to give territory away.

Why oh why are FWR posters excusing terrorist, racist, sectarian violence? WTF is wrong with yous?🤯🤯🤯🤔

Is understanding something automatically excusing it?

You're not understanding it. You're not understanding it at all. Instead you're wanging on like some White Men's Rights activist.

What is happening in NI has fuck all to do with Catherine the Great. It has fuck all to do with our immigrants. And it has fuck all to do with protecting women and children.

It's Male violence pure and simple. The same Male violence that has blighted our people and communities for centuries. The same Male violence that's destroying the lives of women and children in NI.

You want to understand it? Check out who's behind it. And please stop with your Marxist "ruling class" nonsense.🙄

True, people want to study and understand the background of the Ukraine war and the middle-east conflicts it does not suddenly mean that they support one side or the other.

I'm not sure why people just want to condemn but not understand the background or context. This is the attitude of the politicians (who refuse to look at their own policies that has led to this). If you want to fix the problems, then understand the background.

The violence is unacceptable and it hurts everyone, at the same time people need to look at the causes too.

This is the attitude of the politicians (who refuse to look at their own policies that has led to this). If you want to fix the problems, then understand the background.

You mean successive government and party actions that lead to the formation of loyalist terrorist groups? The people who armed and protected them? And still do to this day?

Those politicians?

Politicians like David Tweedy or Jeffrey Donaldson?

You can bet it’s concentrated in (probably poorer) areas. Just saying '6%' doesn’t portray the reality of what people are experiencing.

You can bet the more well off areas are not feeling immigration the same way that poorer areas are.

It needs to be talked about without accusations of racism. Otherwise we end up where we are now.

Ballymena's immigrants are less than 5% of its population. The vast majority of whom are here and working legally.

Accusations of racism are happening because these are racist attacks by paramilitaries.

No, it normally gets funnelled into the same (poorer) areas so that (while it’s 6% overall), but much higher in those areas.

The particular target of the rioters' wrath, the Roma community in Ballymena, numbered 706 out of a population of 24,301 in the last UK Census, which I think is less than 3%?

We have the same kind of carry-on south of the Border, with talk of 'takeover' and 'replacement' and 'unvetted males' , but here the slogan is 'Ireland for the Irish', which wouldn't travel well to the Loyalist areas of Larne and Ballymena without a large dollop of cognitive dissonance about people from outside moving in uninvited.

BTW where I live is about equidistant from not one but three nearby centres for asylum seekers and refugees ['people seeing international protection' is the technical term I think], so I'm speaking from a position of familiarity with the issue.

So in those areas the concentration of immigrants is higher than one would expect from the actual immigration figures?

No. Ballymena has a lower % of immigrants than the average at less than 5%.

Today a NI journalist wrote
If women in Northern Ireland rioted every time one of us was attacked, the country would lie in ashes.

She's right. And it got me thinking.

Given the indiscriminate violence we've seen in the name of protecting women and girls should we use this righteous anger to specifically target the men responsible? Look at all the rioters raging against immigrants and against the police. That's not going to help women in NI.

On the other hand, a few brave men standing up for women could easily take care of the abusers.

Maybe we should encourage that.🤔