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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Darlington nurses ‘victory’

47 replies

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 08/06/2025 20:34

About bloody time, now sue their useless union for their complete lack of help.

twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1931640701390930025

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Bannedontherun · 08/06/2025 20:41

Are they continuing with the tribunal, i hope so.

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2025 21:02

Bannedontherun · 08/06/2025 20:41

Are they continuing with the tribunal, i hope so.

I don't know, It's not the best worded article

Victory for Darlington nurses as they win landmark battle for a female-only hospital changing room mol.im/a/14790917 via https://dailym.ai/android

Darlington nurses ‘victory’
Bannedontherun · 08/06/2025 21:07

Sure it will come to light.

BiologicalRobot · 08/06/2025 21:10

So it only happened because of Wes Streeting and not because their trust decided to follow the law?

Tiredofwhataboutery · 08/06/2025 21:16

BiologicalRobot · 08/06/2025 21:10

So it only happened because of Wes Streeting and not because their trust decided to follow the law?

I imagine the trust is still sitting on their hands and waiting for guidance whilst issuing statements of support to their trans and non binary colleagues as per rest of NHS.

GailBlancheViola · 08/06/2025 21:19

The caption on that picture is incorrect.

They didn't win the right to a female only changing room - they always had that right, they were denied that right by the NHS.

I am so sick of this being framed as if women never had the right to single sex toilets, changing rooms, sports, etc., etc., women always did the Law on them was being wilfully broken.

Bannedontherun · 08/06/2025 21:25

@GailBlancheViola Good point

IwantToRetire · 08/06/2025 21:49

Here's a direct link to the article as other dont seem to work!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14790917/Victory-Darlington-nurses-win-landmark-battle-female-hospital-changing-room.html

But this makes it clear they haven't "won". Wes Streeting has instructed the hospital.

In fact he should have put out a statement, instruction across the NHS saying that as an employer they are obliged to provide adequate single sex facilities, ie toilets, changing rooms etc..

But congratulations to the nurses for persisting.

Should we be putting pressure on Streeting to make this an NHS wide obligation?

Darlington nurses win right to a female-only changing room

The Darlington nurses launched a legal action saying transgender policies put them at risk, deprived them of dignity and breached their human rights.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14790917/Victory-Darlington-nurses-win-landmark-battle-female-hospital-changing-room.html

GailBlancheViola · 08/06/2025 22:05

Should we be putting pressure on Streeting to make this an NHS wide obligation?

Pressure should be brought to bear on all members of the Government and the Prime Minister in particular to state clearly and unequivocally that women have and always have had the right to female single sex spaces and the Law around this must be upheld and adhered to and there will be consequences for those institutions funded by tax payer cash via the Government who fail to do so.

I cannot see them doing it off their own bat so yes pressure needs to be applied to end this ludicrous state of affairs once and for all.

GallantKumquat · 09/06/2025 00:10

Now, with their case heading to the courts, Health Secretary Wes Streeting has intervened, ordering Darlington Memorial Hospital to give the women their own room.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Remember the absurdity of Braverman's Nov., 2023 Times piece were she seemingly had to resort to writing a newspaper column to complain about rogue bureaucrats running amok in setting policing policy in a government the Tories were nominally in charge of? 😳 It is the central theme of Reform: the bureaucratic, professionalized, quango regulated state has become democratically unaccountable irrespective of which party is in power.

Because of this, the SC case is actually an issue of the highest importance on which UK political history pivots -- for Labour to survive the coming Reform onslaught it must demonstrate it can tame the sprawling state apparatus for which it was the chief architect, and make it democratically accountable, and subject to the rule of law. How Starmer handles this will answer the question: is Britain governable or does the existing structure run by elites need to be smashed, as Reform suggests?

In Biden's case this question was replied in the negative and the result was the sledgehammer Trump and Musk are now taking to the entire US federal government.

Starmer's reputation for ruthless efficiency (or efficient ruthlessness) will be put to its biggest test to date. And by having dispatched Streeting to fire the first shot across the first shot across the bow, it seems Starmer come to this conclusion too.

Igmum · 09/06/2025 07:48

Well done Wes Streeting, yes make it clear that it’s all of England and Wales and hopefully Scotland will take the hint. Here’s hoping they continue with the case and get compensation. Any sane NHS HR manager should be reverse ferreting like billy-o now.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 09/06/2025 08:53

This story gets worse, the nurse ‘Rose’ who is at the root of all this, is the son of another male nurse, Dale Henderson, who is scheduled to appear in court this week facing multiple charges of sex offences against children. Maybe the timing of this move is significant.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 09/06/2025 09:00

"Andrea Williams, chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre, said: “A climate of fear has pervaded the system and many from top to bottom have been intimidated into silence and inaction. Equality and diversity policies have been weaponised to silence dissent and to prevent women’s safety and dignity being protected in the workplace"

anyolddinosaur · 09/06/2025 09:02

Story is also in the express https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2065889/NHS-nurses-transgender-darlington-JK-Rowling and the WRN newsletter.

He was supposed to be telling them this some time ago - but I've yet to see the nurses confirm that Rose now changes elsewhere and that their costs have been paid by the health authority. If that hasnt happened they should continue to tribunal.

DragonRunor · 09/06/2025 09:03

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 09/06/2025 08:53

This story gets worse, the nurse ‘Rose’ who is at the root of all this, is the son of another male nurse, Dale Henderson, who is scheduled to appear in court this week facing multiple charges of sex offences against children. Maybe the timing of this move is significant.

This, and the ‘Why aren’t you getting undressed’ behaviour of Rise, needs to be shared far and wide.

It’s not acceptable for men to be allowed into women’s changing rooms.

anyolddinosaur · 09/06/2025 09:07

No one is responsible for their parents actions.

At least one person at Darlington needs to become a personal respondent in the legal case. The current Director of Workforce for County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust is Andrew Thacker. He has been in that role since June 2015.

https://christianconcern.com/news/darlington-nhs-trust-must-provide-single-sex-changing-rooms-without-delay/

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/06/2025 09:10

anyolddinosaur · 09/06/2025 09:07

No one is responsible for their parents actions.

At least one person at Darlington needs to become a personal respondent in the legal case. The current Director of Workforce for County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust is Andrew Thacker. He has been in that role since June 2015.

https://christianconcern.com/news/darlington-nhs-trust-must-provide-single-sex-changing-rooms-without-delay/

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No, but sometimes the parents are indicative of the way their children turned out.

anyolddinosaur · 09/06/2025 09:13

There are many influences on children, I prefer to focus on the actions of the man in the changing room and the people who have enabled him being there.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 09/06/2025 09:22

Igmum · 09/06/2025 07:48

Well done Wes Streeting, yes make it clear that it’s all of England and Wales and hopefully Scotland will take the hint. Here’s hoping they continue with the case and get compensation. Any sane NHS HR manager should be reverse ferreting like billy-o now.

I work within the civil service and the new line being filtered through is that there are unisex showers/ changing cubicles/ toilets that trans colleagues can use if they are uncomfortable using the ones for thier biological sex. Speak to an IM if you need to.

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/06/2025 09:26

anyolddinosaur · 09/06/2025 09:13

There are many influences on children, I prefer to focus on the actions of the man in the changing room and the people who have enabled him being there.

Obviously you can focus on whatever you like, but it is valid to try to understand the effect of childhood influences on a person. This is not the first time a trans identifying man who didn't understand appropriate boundaries was found to have had an abusive father.

Obviously having a paedophile father does not automatically make the child a future abuser, but the effects will still be there is some form.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 09/06/2025 09:38

anyolddinosaur · 09/06/2025 09:07

No one is responsible for their parents actions.

At least one person at Darlington needs to become a personal respondent in the legal case. The current Director of Workforce for County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust is Andrew Thacker. He has been in that role since June 2015.

https://christianconcern.com/news/darlington-nhs-trust-must-provide-single-sex-changing-rooms-without-delay/

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No one has said that they are. His father is also a nurse, so it doesn’t take a genius to think that the relevant authorities would not want people to make the connection between these two men.

A significant number of young people who identify as trans have a sex offender as a parent, or carer, that has been evidenced. In order to protect vulnerable young people from this insidious ideology, we have to understand the reasons behind it. Pretending there is no link in order to appear fair is completely unhelpful.

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ScaredtoBeOpen · 09/06/2025 09:48

Anecdotally, the MTF trans person in my extended family had a paedophile father. The father gave all the girls in the family (unwanted sexual) attention and the boy desperately wanted the (presumably non-sexual) attention of the Dad which he never got... So it's interesting to hear other people speak of a link between sex offender parent and trans identification.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/06/2025 09:54

See also Aimee Challenor...

NameChangedOfc · 09/06/2025 09:56

GailBlancheViola · 08/06/2025 21:19

The caption on that picture is incorrect.

They didn't win the right to a female only changing room - they always had that right, they were denied that right by the NHS.

I am so sick of this being framed as if women never had the right to single sex toilets, changing rooms, sports, etc., etc., women always did the Law on them was being wilfully broken.

Yes

JazzyJelly · 09/06/2025 10:09

Tiredofwhataboutery · 09/06/2025 09:22

I work within the civil service and the new line being filtered through is that there are unisex showers/ changing cubicles/ toilets that trans colleagues can use if they are uncomfortable using the ones for thier biological sex. Speak to an IM if you need to.

A third space? Good lord, if only someone had thought of that years ago...

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